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Hi Gee,

I am glad your test results were good. I too have lived with chronic pain

for a long time. I have a very bad back and colitis. I also lost my son 7

years ago. The headache pain is like the straw that broke the camel's back.

I asked the doctor to change my meds today. Maybe this will help. Meghan

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Hi Gee,

I am glad your test results were good. I too have lived with chronic pain

for a long time. I have a very bad back and colitis. I also lost my son 7

years ago. The headache pain is like the straw that broke the camel's back.

I asked the doctor to change my meds today. Maybe this will help. Meghan

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Hi Gee,

I am glad your test results were good. I too have lived with chronic pain

for a long time. I have a very bad back and colitis. I also lost my son 7

years ago. The headache pain is like the straw that broke the camel's back.

I asked the doctor to change my meds today. Maybe this will help. Meghan

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Hi Gee,

I am glad your test results were good. I too have lived with chronic pain

for a long time. I have a very bad back and colitis. I also lost my son 7

years ago. The headache pain is like the straw that broke the camel's back.

I asked the doctor to change my meds today. Maybe this will help. Meghan

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HI.Just like that.I did the Peg and after six months I had my PCR which was

sustained reponse.Two more months and I hve my second one if that.s negative

again I know I hve beaten the virus.The Peg has less side-effects then the

combo,you.ll be helding the soap instead of a razor in the bathroom.My Doc

would.nt give me any drugs for the side-effects.In a way I.am gratefull for that

now because I learned to cope with my depressions,anxiety etc. in a natural

way.He.s a wise old man,he also knew that I could cope.Became a friend almost

who also helps people to get treatment , the uninsured,foreigners.A good

connection.Willem.

Re: post treatment blues

In a message dated 12/29/02 12:19:58 AM !!!First Boot!!!,

alleypat@...

writes:

> www.hepatitisneighborhood.com

I searched for cryo and couldn't find anything. I guess you need

the whole

word to locate the meaning. Just tell me in your own words what it

is.

Thank you, Meghan

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HI.Just like that.I did the Peg and after six months I had my PCR which was

sustained reponse.Two more months and I hve my second one if that.s negative

again I know I hve beaten the virus.The Peg has less side-effects then the

combo,you.ll be helding the soap instead of a razor in the bathroom.My Doc

would.nt give me any drugs for the side-effects.In a way I.am gratefull for that

now because I learned to cope with my depressions,anxiety etc. in a natural

way.He.s a wise old man,he also knew that I could cope.Became a friend almost

who also helps people to get treatment , the uninsured,foreigners.A good

connection.Willem.

Re: post treatment blues

In a message dated 12/29/02 12:19:58 AM !!!First Boot!!!,

alleypat@...

writes:

> www.hepatitisneighborhood.com

I searched for cryo and couldn't find anything. I guess you need

the whole

word to locate the meaning. Just tell me in your own words what it

is.

Thank you, Meghan

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HI.Just like that.I did the Peg and after six months I had my PCR which was

sustained reponse.Two more months and I hve my second one if that.s negative

again I know I hve beaten the virus.The Peg has less side-effects then the

combo,you.ll be helding the soap instead of a razor in the bathroom.My Doc

would.nt give me any drugs for the side-effects.In a way I.am gratefull for that

now because I learned to cope with my depressions,anxiety etc. in a natural

way.He.s a wise old man,he also knew that I could cope.Became a friend almost

who also helps people to get treatment , the uninsured,foreigners.A good

connection.Willem.

Re: post treatment blues

In a message dated 12/29/02 12:19:58 AM !!!First Boot!!!,

alleypat@...

writes:

> www.hepatitisneighborhood.com

I searched for cryo and couldn't find anything. I guess you need

the whole

word to locate the meaning. Just tell me in your own words what it

is.

Thank you, Meghan

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HI.Just like that.I did the Peg and after six months I had my PCR which was

sustained reponse.Two more months and I hve my second one if that.s negative

again I know I hve beaten the virus.The Peg has less side-effects then the

combo,you.ll be helding the soap instead of a razor in the bathroom.My Doc

would.nt give me any drugs for the side-effects.In a way I.am gratefull for that

now because I learned to cope with my depressions,anxiety etc. in a natural

way.He.s a wise old man,he also knew that I could cope.Became a friend almost

who also helps people to get treatment , the uninsured,foreigners.A good

connection.Willem.

Re: post treatment blues

In a message dated 12/29/02 12:19:58 AM !!!First Boot!!!,

alleypat@...

writes:

> www.hepatitisneighborhood.com

I searched for cryo and couldn't find anything. I guess you need

the whole

word to locate the meaning. Just tell me in your own words what it

is.

Thank you, Meghan

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Gail,

What side effects did you have from neurontin? I took the first one

last night and slept like I was unconsious. When I woke up I was really

foggy, a drugged feeling I don't like. It is getting a little better but

still far from normal, and I only took 300 mg. My vision is a little blurry

at times. I am supposed to take twice that much each day. My doctor doesn't

know much about the different meds. I have a friend who takes neurontin, and

I asked the druggest about it. Then I asked the doctor. I believe he would

give me anything. I have had headaches so long. The cryo info is very

interesting. Even if you are undetectable, it is not much of a trade-off,

one disease for another. All we can do is keep putting one foot in front of

the other and keep going. Hope the New Year is filled with good things,

peace and good health. Meghan

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Gail,

What side effects did you have from neurontin? I took the first one

last night and slept like I was unconsious. When I woke up I was really

foggy, a drugged feeling I don't like. It is getting a little better but

still far from normal, and I only took 300 mg. My vision is a little blurry

at times. I am supposed to take twice that much each day. My doctor doesn't

know much about the different meds. I have a friend who takes neurontin, and

I asked the druggest about it. Then I asked the doctor. I believe he would

give me anything. I have had headaches so long. The cryo info is very

interesting. Even if you are undetectable, it is not much of a trade-off,

one disease for another. All we can do is keep putting one foot in front of

the other and keep going. Hope the New Year is filled with good things,

peace and good health. Meghan

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Gail,

What side effects did you have from neurontin? I took the first one

last night and slept like I was unconsious. When I woke up I was really

foggy, a drugged feeling I don't like. It is getting a little better but

still far from normal, and I only took 300 mg. My vision is a little blurry

at times. I am supposed to take twice that much each day. My doctor doesn't

know much about the different meds. I have a friend who takes neurontin, and

I asked the druggest about it. Then I asked the doctor. I believe he would

give me anything. I have had headaches so long. The cryo info is very

interesting. Even if you are undetectable, it is not much of a trade-off,

one disease for another. All we can do is keep putting one foot in front of

the other and keep going. Hope the New Year is filled with good things,

peace and good health. Meghan

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Gail,

What side effects did you have from neurontin? I took the first one

last night and slept like I was unconsious. When I woke up I was really

foggy, a drugged feeling I don't like. It is getting a little better but

still far from normal, and I only took 300 mg. My vision is a little blurry

at times. I am supposed to take twice that much each day. My doctor doesn't

know much about the different meds. I have a friend who takes neurontin, and

I asked the druggest about it. Then I asked the doctor. I believe he would

give me anything. I have had headaches so long. The cryo info is very

interesting. Even if you are undetectable, it is not much of a trade-off,

one disease for another. All we can do is keep putting one foot in front of

the other and keep going. Hope the New Year is filled with good things,

peace and good health. Meghan

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Yeah I ried Neurontin several times too. The sides were not good...sigh.

It is funny-some people strive to be debt free, others look for the perfect

mate-we strive to be pain-free. The last round of Neurontin, I joined a

Neurontin group. Sheesh, those people were taking up to 6 grams a day of

the stuff-plus other meds-opoids, Klonopin, etc. I am trying to update my

paper on understanding cryo-what actually happens in the body, why I take

the supplements that I do, etc. Hopefully, soon I will get it out to you

guys. I believe that to understand the enemy is to be able to defeat the

enemy. I never could take Ibu-I stopped peeing right away! I think I

remember you from Hepatitis Central when I used to go there regularly whilst

on treatment. Good luck getting the patch-it sounds like your doc is

decent about pain relief-in my area they don't like to prescribe anything

stronger than Darvocet, Tyl-3 (which you can buy over the counter in the

Bahamas as 2-2-2s), Percocet, etc. There have been several deaths due to

dummies ODing on Oxycontin, lots of break-ins, etc.

gail

From: Mzgee1@...

Reply-Hepatitis C

Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 19:24:46 EST

Hepatitis C

Subject: Re: post treatment blues

Dear Gail, thanks! Appreciate the info. Bextra is an NSAID. I used to

take

up to 3000mgs of Ibuprofen daily and my doc would cringe, crossing his

fingers that my kidneys wouldn't blow or my stomach. They didn't...but when

I started to see the Rheumatologist, she first tried me on Plaquenil, but I

got a body rash from it so I had to stop. We moved on to Bextra ( a new

med). It doesn't take the pain away, but gives me as much relief as all

the

Ibuprofen did (which is miraculous!) Instead of taking 10 Ibus a day, I

take

1 Bextra in the a.m and it lasts all day. Unfortunately, she will not let

me increase it. So I can only take 20 mgs a day. But like I said, I still

take Demerol during the day (usually in the a.m.) and Oxycontin before bed.

I can pretty much deal with the residual pain. I had taken Neurontin for

quite a while before treatment for the nerve pain, but I never did get over

the sides (nausea & dizziness). I really would like to switch to one of the

new patches that are out. I read about one recently that is being touted as

a better way to deal with pain than using opoids. It (if I remember

right..)is like oxycontin..but works better(no breakthru pain) and has been

found not to be addicting. At this point I NEVER worry about that....but

the

docs do. Phyisical dependence is one thing and ADDICTION is a whole nother

story! But that's just my opinion! Anyway, I don't know HOW I got into all

of this...sheesh! Sorry..love, gee (P.S. I'm a Gail too!)

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Yeah I ried Neurontin several times too. The sides were not good...sigh.

It is funny-some people strive to be debt free, others look for the perfect

mate-we strive to be pain-free. The last round of Neurontin, I joined a

Neurontin group. Sheesh, those people were taking up to 6 grams a day of

the stuff-plus other meds-opoids, Klonopin, etc. I am trying to update my

paper on understanding cryo-what actually happens in the body, why I take

the supplements that I do, etc. Hopefully, soon I will get it out to you

guys. I believe that to understand the enemy is to be able to defeat the

enemy. I never could take Ibu-I stopped peeing right away! I think I

remember you from Hepatitis Central when I used to go there regularly whilst

on treatment. Good luck getting the patch-it sounds like your doc is

decent about pain relief-in my area they don't like to prescribe anything

stronger than Darvocet, Tyl-3 (which you can buy over the counter in the

Bahamas as 2-2-2s), Percocet, etc. There have been several deaths due to

dummies ODing on Oxycontin, lots of break-ins, etc.

gail

From: Mzgee1@...

Reply-Hepatitis C

Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 19:24:46 EST

Hepatitis C

Subject: Re: post treatment blues

Dear Gail, thanks! Appreciate the info. Bextra is an NSAID. I used to

take

up to 3000mgs of Ibuprofen daily and my doc would cringe, crossing his

fingers that my kidneys wouldn't blow or my stomach. They didn't...but when

I started to see the Rheumatologist, she first tried me on Plaquenil, but I

got a body rash from it so I had to stop. We moved on to Bextra ( a new

med). It doesn't take the pain away, but gives me as much relief as all

the

Ibuprofen did (which is miraculous!) Instead of taking 10 Ibus a day, I

take

1 Bextra in the a.m and it lasts all day. Unfortunately, she will not let

me increase it. So I can only take 20 mgs a day. But like I said, I still

take Demerol during the day (usually in the a.m.) and Oxycontin before bed.

I can pretty much deal with the residual pain. I had taken Neurontin for

quite a while before treatment for the nerve pain, but I never did get over

the sides (nausea & dizziness). I really would like to switch to one of the

new patches that are out. I read about one recently that is being touted as

a better way to deal with pain than using opoids. It (if I remember

right..)is like oxycontin..but works better(no breakthru pain) and has been

found not to be addicting. At this point I NEVER worry about that....but

the

docs do. Phyisical dependence is one thing and ADDICTION is a whole nother

story! But that's just my opinion! Anyway, I don't know HOW I got into all

of this...sheesh! Sorry..love, gee (P.S. I'm a Gail too!)

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Yeah I ried Neurontin several times too. The sides were not good...sigh.

It is funny-some people strive to be debt free, others look for the perfect

mate-we strive to be pain-free. The last round of Neurontin, I joined a

Neurontin group. Sheesh, those people were taking up to 6 grams a day of

the stuff-plus other meds-opoids, Klonopin, etc. I am trying to update my

paper on understanding cryo-what actually happens in the body, why I take

the supplements that I do, etc. Hopefully, soon I will get it out to you

guys. I believe that to understand the enemy is to be able to defeat the

enemy. I never could take Ibu-I stopped peeing right away! I think I

remember you from Hepatitis Central when I used to go there regularly whilst

on treatment. Good luck getting the patch-it sounds like your doc is

decent about pain relief-in my area they don't like to prescribe anything

stronger than Darvocet, Tyl-3 (which you can buy over the counter in the

Bahamas as 2-2-2s), Percocet, etc. There have been several deaths due to

dummies ODing on Oxycontin, lots of break-ins, etc.

gail

From: Mzgee1@...

Reply-Hepatitis C

Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 19:24:46 EST

Hepatitis C

Subject: Re: post treatment blues

Dear Gail, thanks! Appreciate the info. Bextra is an NSAID. I used to

take

up to 3000mgs of Ibuprofen daily and my doc would cringe, crossing his

fingers that my kidneys wouldn't blow or my stomach. They didn't...but when

I started to see the Rheumatologist, she first tried me on Plaquenil, but I

got a body rash from it so I had to stop. We moved on to Bextra ( a new

med). It doesn't take the pain away, but gives me as much relief as all

the

Ibuprofen did (which is miraculous!) Instead of taking 10 Ibus a day, I

take

1 Bextra in the a.m and it lasts all day. Unfortunately, she will not let

me increase it. So I can only take 20 mgs a day. But like I said, I still

take Demerol during the day (usually in the a.m.) and Oxycontin before bed.

I can pretty much deal with the residual pain. I had taken Neurontin for

quite a while before treatment for the nerve pain, but I never did get over

the sides (nausea & dizziness). I really would like to switch to one of the

new patches that are out. I read about one recently that is being touted as

a better way to deal with pain than using opoids. It (if I remember

right..)is like oxycontin..but works better(no breakthru pain) and has been

found not to be addicting. At this point I NEVER worry about that....but

the

docs do. Phyisical dependence is one thing and ADDICTION is a whole nother

story! But that's just my opinion! Anyway, I don't know HOW I got into all

of this...sheesh! Sorry..love, gee (P.S. I'm a Gail too!)

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Yeah I ried Neurontin several times too. The sides were not good...sigh.

It is funny-some people strive to be debt free, others look for the perfect

mate-we strive to be pain-free. The last round of Neurontin, I joined a

Neurontin group. Sheesh, those people were taking up to 6 grams a day of

the stuff-plus other meds-opoids, Klonopin, etc. I am trying to update my

paper on understanding cryo-what actually happens in the body, why I take

the supplements that I do, etc. Hopefully, soon I will get it out to you

guys. I believe that to understand the enemy is to be able to defeat the

enemy. I never could take Ibu-I stopped peeing right away! I think I

remember you from Hepatitis Central when I used to go there regularly whilst

on treatment. Good luck getting the patch-it sounds like your doc is

decent about pain relief-in my area they don't like to prescribe anything

stronger than Darvocet, Tyl-3 (which you can buy over the counter in the

Bahamas as 2-2-2s), Percocet, etc. There have been several deaths due to

dummies ODing on Oxycontin, lots of break-ins, etc.

gail

From: Mzgee1@...

Reply-Hepatitis C

Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2002 19:24:46 EST

Hepatitis C

Subject: Re: post treatment blues

Dear Gail, thanks! Appreciate the info. Bextra is an NSAID. I used to

take

up to 3000mgs of Ibuprofen daily and my doc would cringe, crossing his

fingers that my kidneys wouldn't blow or my stomach. They didn't...but when

I started to see the Rheumatologist, she first tried me on Plaquenil, but I

got a body rash from it so I had to stop. We moved on to Bextra ( a new

med). It doesn't take the pain away, but gives me as much relief as all

the

Ibuprofen did (which is miraculous!) Instead of taking 10 Ibus a day, I

take

1 Bextra in the a.m and it lasts all day. Unfortunately, she will not let

me increase it. So I can only take 20 mgs a day. But like I said, I still

take Demerol during the day (usually in the a.m.) and Oxycontin before bed.

I can pretty much deal with the residual pain. I had taken Neurontin for

quite a while before treatment for the nerve pain, but I never did get over

the sides (nausea & dizziness). I really would like to switch to one of the

new patches that are out. I read about one recently that is being touted as

a better way to deal with pain than using opoids. It (if I remember

right..)is like oxycontin..but works better(no breakthru pain) and has been

found not to be addicting. At this point I NEVER worry about that....but

the

docs do. Phyisical dependence is one thing and ADDICTION is a whole nother

story! But that's just my opinion! Anyway, I don't know HOW I got into all

of this...sheesh! Sorry..love, gee (P.S. I'm a Gail too!)

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  • 3 weeks later...

Tat said <<Alley had a terrible time with migraines during treatment too. >>

I sure did! And when I was on the high dose interferon for the melanoma, my

migraines were even worse.

My oncologist gave me Maxalt, Zomig & Imitrex. These meds help relieve the

constricted blood vessels that can cause or happen during a migraine (I think

that's how they work) (they are not pain pills). Most people don't need all of

them, but I liked switching them each time so I wouldn't get used to them and

not work.

My favorite one is the Maxalt that melts under my tongue. Works very fast.

http://www.maxalt.com/

The Maxalt site says it works by...

Treatment with MAXALT:

1.. Reduces swelling of blood vessels surrounding the brain. This swelling

results in the headache pain of a migraine attack.

2.. Blocks the release of substances from nerve endings that cause more pain

and other symptoms of migraine.

3.. Interrupts the sending of specific pain signals to your brain.

Then for pain he gave me Fioricet & Oxycodone. If 2 Fioricet didn't help, I did

the oxy, but I didn't use or need the oxy very often.

No reason to suffer needlessly.

Alley

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Tat said <<Alley had a terrible time with migraines during treatment too. >>

I sure did! And when I was on the high dose interferon for the melanoma, my

migraines were even worse.

My oncologist gave me Maxalt, Zomig & Imitrex. These meds help relieve the

constricted blood vessels that can cause or happen during a migraine (I think

that's how they work) (they are not pain pills). Most people don't need all of

them, but I liked switching them each time so I wouldn't get used to them and

not work.

My favorite one is the Maxalt that melts under my tongue. Works very fast.

http://www.maxalt.com/

The Maxalt site says it works by...

Treatment with MAXALT:

1.. Reduces swelling of blood vessels surrounding the brain. This swelling

results in the headache pain of a migraine attack.

2.. Blocks the release of substances from nerve endings that cause more pain

and other symptoms of migraine.

3.. Interrupts the sending of specific pain signals to your brain.

Then for pain he gave me Fioricet & Oxycodone. If 2 Fioricet didn't help, I did

the oxy, but I didn't use or need the oxy very often.

No reason to suffer needlessly.

Alley

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Tat said <<Alley had a terrible time with migraines during treatment too. >>

I sure did! And when I was on the high dose interferon for the melanoma, my

migraines were even worse.

My oncologist gave me Maxalt, Zomig & Imitrex. These meds help relieve the

constricted blood vessels that can cause or happen during a migraine (I think

that's how they work) (they are not pain pills). Most people don't need all of

them, but I liked switching them each time so I wouldn't get used to them and

not work.

My favorite one is the Maxalt that melts under my tongue. Works very fast.

http://www.maxalt.com/

The Maxalt site says it works by...

Treatment with MAXALT:

1.. Reduces swelling of blood vessels surrounding the brain. This swelling

results in the headache pain of a migraine attack.

2.. Blocks the release of substances from nerve endings that cause more pain

and other symptoms of migraine.

3.. Interrupts the sending of specific pain signals to your brain.

Then for pain he gave me Fioricet & Oxycodone. If 2 Fioricet didn't help, I did

the oxy, but I didn't use or need the oxy very often.

No reason to suffer needlessly.

Alley

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Tat said <<Alley had a terrible time with migraines during treatment too. >>

I sure did! And when I was on the high dose interferon for the melanoma, my

migraines were even worse.

My oncologist gave me Maxalt, Zomig & Imitrex. These meds help relieve the

constricted blood vessels that can cause or happen during a migraine (I think

that's how they work) (they are not pain pills). Most people don't need all of

them, but I liked switching them each time so I wouldn't get used to them and

not work.

My favorite one is the Maxalt that melts under my tongue. Works very fast.

http://www.maxalt.com/

The Maxalt site says it works by...

Treatment with MAXALT:

1.. Reduces swelling of blood vessels surrounding the brain. This swelling

results in the headache pain of a migraine attack.

2.. Blocks the release of substances from nerve endings that cause more pain

and other symptoms of migraine.

3.. Interrupts the sending of specific pain signals to your brain.

Then for pain he gave me Fioricet & Oxycodone. If 2 Fioricet didn't help, I did

the oxy, but I didn't use or need the oxy very often.

No reason to suffer needlessly.

Alley

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Hi all,

I posted a message a few days ago, but I don't think it got to

the list. I had an MRI last week, because of the constant

headaches. Everything was fine. I went to the neurologist yesterday

and he said he thinks the headaches are as a result of the treatment,

but doesn't know why they haven't stopped after 6 1/2 months off

treatment. He thinks he can help me with medication to prevent

rather than treat the headaches with painkillers. He thinks an

antipressant, an antiseizure, or blood pressure medication, even

though I don't have high blood pressure, will work. I am hopeful. In

a post, DB wrote about ACV and honey. What is ACV? What is TMTD? I

also have back pain and sinus problems, and would like to find your

solution. Thanks, Meghan

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Hi all,

I posted a message a few days ago, but I don't think it got to

the list. I had an MRI last week, because of the constant

headaches. Everything was fine. I went to the neurologist yesterday

and he said he thinks the headaches are as a result of the treatment,

but doesn't know why they haven't stopped after 6 1/2 months off

treatment. He thinks he can help me with medication to prevent

rather than treat the headaches with painkillers. He thinks an

antipressant, an antiseizure, or blood pressure medication, even

though I don't have high blood pressure, will work. I am hopeful. In

a post, DB wrote about ACV and honey. What is ACV? What is TMTD? I

also have back pain and sinus problems, and would like to find your

solution. Thanks, Meghan

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Hi all,

I posted a message a few days ago, but I don't think it got to

the list. I had an MRI last week, because of the constant

headaches. Everything was fine. I went to the neurologist yesterday

and he said he thinks the headaches are as a result of the treatment,

but doesn't know why they haven't stopped after 6 1/2 months off

treatment. He thinks he can help me with medication to prevent

rather than treat the headaches with painkillers. He thinks an

antipressant, an antiseizure, or blood pressure medication, even

though I don't have high blood pressure, will work. I am hopeful. In

a post, DB wrote about ACV and honey. What is ACV? What is TMTD? I

also have back pain and sinus problems, and would like to find your

solution. Thanks, Meghan

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Hi all,

I posted a message a few days ago, but I don't think it got to

the list. I had an MRI last week, because of the constant

headaches. Everything was fine. I went to the neurologist yesterday

and he said he thinks the headaches are as a result of the treatment,

but doesn't know why they haven't stopped after 6 1/2 months off

treatment. He thinks he can help me with medication to prevent

rather than treat the headaches with painkillers. He thinks an

antipressant, an antiseizure, or blood pressure medication, even

though I don't have high blood pressure, will work. I am hopeful. In

a post, DB wrote about ACV and honey. What is ACV? What is TMTD? I

also have back pain and sinus problems, and would like to find your

solution. Thanks, Meghan

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Hi Meghan...

I'm not sure I have any answers for you but wanted to acknowledge your post. I

fought cluster headaches and migraines for 30+ years and interestingly enough,

when I was in treatment my headaches went away and haven't returned 1-1/2 years

after finishing treatment...I am a 1b non-responder.

However I made some lifestyle changes after being diagnosed that may contribute

to my not having headaches any more. I changed my diet to a liver healthy diet,

learned to relax and breathe properly to control my stress level and started

accupuncture (I'm fortunate to be a big city with two oriental schools of

medicine with free clinics). I think (these are only my thoughts and not fact to

my knowledge) that tx changes something in our physiological structure and

ofcourse the virus itself affects who knows what besides our livers. It is after

all a systemic virus and not a liver disease.

In chinese medicine the liver holds our anger and controls the sinews...muscles,

tendons, ligaments, etc...so that we become inflexible. People with dis-eased

livers often deal with muscoskelatal (sp?) issues. Maybe your headaches are a

result of a neck problem...have you thought about seeing a chiropractor? If you

go to a chiro and they don't want xrays done before working on you, find another

chiro. A lot of people swear by their chiros and most insurance plans cover

chiros. Personally I would take a shot with a chiro before I started pumping

more drugs into my body.

If you can afford accupuncture or have access to an oriental school of medicine

where they have a free clinic, accupuncture is very successful with a multitude

of ailments. For years I have been controlling my lower back and hip pain with

accupuncture along with any other ailments that pop up including liver tonifying

treatments. If you want to read about the theories behind chinese medicine and

accupuncture in layman's terms, the best book I've found is " Between Heaven and

Earth, A Guide to Chinese Medicine. " If you are interesting I can post the

author's names.

Good luck Meghan. It's always a challenge to find the causes of our discomfort.

I once read a book, " Feelings Buried Never Die " that concludes all dis-eases are

caused by unresolved emotional issues. I found that it ran pretty parallel to

the theories of chinese medicine.

Tatezi

post treatment blues

Hi all,

I posted a message a few days ago, but I don't think it got to

the list. I had an MRI last week, because of the constant

headaches. Everything was fine. I went to the neurologist yesterday

and he said he thinks the headaches are as a result of the treatment,

but doesn't know why they haven't stopped after 6 1/2 months off

treatment. He thinks he can help me with medication to prevent

rather than treat the headaches with painkillers. He thinks an

antipressant, an antiseizure, or blood pressure medication, even

though I don't have high blood pressure, will work. I am hopeful. In

a post, DB wrote about ACV and honey. What is ACV? What is TMTD? I

also have back pain and sinus problems, and would like to find your

solution. Thanks, Meghan

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