Re: PSA and proposed new device

[Guest guest]

Hi Shirley,

THis is true the PSA only signifies an enlarged prostate, it dose not signify

cancer.

Take care,

V

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> Read somewhere that psa tests are not definitive for cancer since what it

> measures will vary naturally even in healthy men. That may be encouraging.

> Hope so.

> That new device sounds very interesting. Can hardly wait!! Thanks. pj

>

[Guest guest]

That's right, and its the reason they want to go in through the colon wall and

puncture the lump in a number of places so they can get samples to see if its

cancer. Problem is, if the biopsy is positive they must begin to poison, burn or

cut you immediately, because they have released cancer cells into your colon and

blood stream.

I have read that the pregnancy test can signal cancer in a male. I just haven't

had the nerve at 78 to buy a pregnancy test kit. Maybe I should strut up to the

counter and ask for one in a loud voice.

Dick

PSA and proposed new device

Read somewhere that psa tests are not definitive for cancer since what it

measures will vary naturally even in healthy men. That may be encouraging.

Hope so.

That new device sounds very interesting. Can hardly wait!! Thanks. pj

[Guest guest]

Well Jeeez Dick, they would only think you did a job on some young

chick......<grin>

I agree with you completely, I will not do a biopsy for the very reason you

point out. But with a PSA of 4.2 at age 75.....I just can't get too alarmed.

Jack

PSA and proposed new device

Read somewhere that psa tests are not definitive for cancer since what it

measures will vary naturally even in healthy men. That may be encouraging.

Hope so.

That new device sounds very interesting. Can hardly wait!! Thanks. pj

[Guest guest]

Yes, but the answer will be, " we had to remove the colon to avoid a

potential blockage. "

Well give us the option PRIOR to surgery instead of when your in there!

I haven't heard of anyone having a blockage in my 45 years from a tumor!

If it were me I would say leave it alone and we will deal with it if it

happens. My dad had no choice, they went in for a simple resection

(estimated at most an hour) of a polyp and it turned into a 9 hour

surgery and a colostomy etc. NO choice. That was their excuse, bowel

obstruction that may occur. Man he hated that colostomy. It was

permanent too of course. They really botched up what was going on, from

one little polyp to metasatic cancer in his lymphs, lungs, liver and

kidney. They wanted to put a pump of chemo right on his liver and he

would walk around with them for 6 months shooting the junk into him.

Well, we found a better way!

>

> That's right, and its the reason they want to go in through the colon

wall and puncture the lump in a number of places so they can get samples

to see if its cancer. Problem is, if the biopsy is positive they must

begin to poison, burn or cut you immediately, because they have released

cancer cells into your colon and blood stream.

>

> I have read that the pregnancy test can signal cancer in a male. I

just haven't had the nerve at 78 to buy a pregnancy test kit. Maybe I

should strut up to the counter and ask for one in a loud voice.

>

> Dick

> PSA and proposed new device

>

>

> Read somewhere that psa tests are not definitive for cancer since what

it

> measures will vary naturally even in healthy men. That may be

encouraging.

> Hope so.

> That new device sounds very interesting. Can hardly wait!! Thanks. pj

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/25/06 7:58:39 PM, rbarker@... writes:

> > I have read that the pregnancy test can signal cancer in a male. I

> > just haven't had the nerve at 78 to buy a pregnancy test kit. Maybe I

> > should strut up to the counter and ask for one in a loud voice.

> >-----------------------------------------------------

> Sure, why not? Just say that your 20 year old girlfriend thinks she may

be pregnant, and sent you to get the test.

Pat in CA

[Guest guest]

Sure, Dick. You can say pregnancy test, and even condoms out loud in

a drugstore these days.

The only thing you have to be quiet about is cigarettes. It's exactly

the opposite of the way it was in the 50's.

bG

>>

> I have read that the pregnancy test can signal cancer in a male. I

just haven't had the nerve at 78 to buy a pregnancy test kit. Maybe I

should strut up to the counter and ask for one in a loud voice.

>

> Dick

>

[Guest guest]

Dick, I'm concerned. The odds of recovery should be evaluated. My

dad had his prostate removed while they were working down there on

something else, just to get rid of the nuisance, it was not even

infected or troubled. He opted to have it removed.

Your doc should tell you the odds and so forth so you can make

decisions.

If it were me (and it isn't, and I'm not your doc), I would think it

over hard. To me the probable value of the device would be

preventing metastasis. Cells roaming the body via the blood and

reproducing in other places spreading the cancer. It may be

possible that the current will reduce or kill that off. But...for a

tumor? It would seem to need a very direct application to the area

to provide enough current to kill a whole colony of millions of

cells that are not out there in the blood exposed to current.

So, maybe having it out and then treating the blood would make sense

to me if it were me. But I really don't know, just trying to make a

helpful guess or two about it.

bG

>

> That's right, and its the reason they want to go in through the

colon wall and puncture the lump in a number of places so they can

get samples to see if its cancer. Problem is, if the biopsy is

positive they must begin to poison, burn or cut you immediately,

because they have released cancer cells into your colon and blood

stream.

>

> I have read that the pregnancy test can signal cancer in a male. I

just haven't had the nerve at 78 to buy a pregnancy test kit. Maybe

I should strut up to the counter and ask for one in a loud voice.

>

> Dick

> PSA and proposed new device

>

>

> Read somewhere that psa tests are not definitive for cancer

since what it

> measures will vary naturally even in healthy men. That may be

encouraging.

> Hope so.

> That new device sounds very interesting. Can hardly wait!!

Thanks. pj

>

>

[Guest guest]

...also low current, carefully metered no more than .3mA to use

directly against it for a few minutes a day with a...well something

else you will have to ask for by name in another kind of store...you

know, rubbery little thing...ladies, help me here...run a wire

through it and add a 1 " round bit of sponge over the wire....

bG

> >

> > That's right, and its the reason they want to go in through the

> colon wall and puncture the lump in a number of places so they can

> get samples to see if its cancer. Problem is, if the biopsy is

> positive they must begin to poison, burn or cut you immediately,

> because they have released cancer cells into your colon and blood

> stream.

> >

> > I have read that the pregnancy test can signal cancer in a male.

I

> just haven't had the nerve at 78 to buy a pregnancy test kit.

Maybe

> I should strut up to the counter and ask for one in a loud voice.

> >

> > Dick

> > PSA and proposed new

device

> >

> >

> > Read somewhere that psa tests are not definitive for cancer

> since what it

> > measures will vary naturally even in healthy men. That may be

> encouraging.

> > Hope so.

> > That new device sounds very interesting. Can hardly wait!!

> Thanks. pj

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi BSPMerced,

They carry them in the dollar store right at the checkout counter

Take care,

V

> In a message dated 9/25/06 7:58:39 PM, rbarker@... writes:

>> > I have read that the pregnancy test can signal cancer in a male. I

>> > just haven't had the nerve at 78 to buy a pregnancy test kit. Maybe I

>> > should strut up to the counter and ask for one in a loud voice.

>> >-----------------------------------------------------

>> Sure, why not? Just say that your 20 year old girlfriend thinks she may

> be pregnant, and sent you to get the test.

> Pat in CA

>

[Guest guest]

You two have made my day, i woke up tired and grumpy and read this and started

laughing and have had a great day so far. thanks for the humor, Jen

Re: PSA and proposed new device

Hi BSPMerced,

They carry them in the dollar store right at the checkout counter

Take care,

V

> In a message dated 9/25/06 7:58:39 PM, rbarker@... writes:

>> > I have read that the pregnancy test can signal cancer in a male. I

>> > just haven't had the nerve at 78 to buy a pregnancy test kit. Maybe I

>> > should strut up to the counter and ask for one in a loud voice.

>> >-----------------------------------------------------

>> Sure, why not? Just say that your 20 year old girlfriend thinks she may

> be pregnant, and sent you to get the test.

> Pat in CA

>

[Guest guest]

I understand the test is only useful for men who have breast cancer

CB