Re: Injury from Using Godzilla

[Guest guest]

Hot spots are hard to fix, even if you do wrap things very

carefully. I think it may be better to use a sponge than cloth or

other covering. The type of sponge is the " ocello " or cellulose

that holds water pretty well. Natural sponge or plastic sponge

usually do not hold water as well.

The way I like to construct it is like " fingers " on a glove, but

using a solid but flexible backing. The easiest is a large foam

paint brush. I will post some photos soon of this idea and it may

be interesting for you to try out vs the thing you now use.

I like the fingers idea as it limits how much current can go into

each finger, and when applied to body, it is more concentrated than

a flat pad. Each finger is like a ray going into the body, and if

you move a bit during the application, it should provide an intense

beam into the body through a more narrow area and be more aggressive

against the germs in the path.

bG

>

> Hi,

>

> I found two scabs on my back, and after a while I realized that

they

> probably are a result of my using 5x5 " stainless steel plates

hitched

> up to a 6v battery. I placed one on the liver and one directly

behind

> it. They seemed kind of slow to heal. I went to a doctor to have

him

> look at these. He said they are just scratches, but I didn't tell

him

> about the micro currents I use.

>

> Is there any chance that I should be concerned about this turning

into

> a dangerous skin condition?

>

> I picked the top off of one of these this morning. It must have

been a

> type of burn I got from where the wires are connected to the

plates. I

> wrap these up with wet cotton wash cloths and hold them on with

bobby

> pins. I didn't feel much pain when this happened, just the normal

> tingling.

>

> In the future I think I should make sure the plates are totally

> covered by the cloths, and the pins are on the back of it and not

> touching my skin.

>

> Thanks for any advice on this.

>

> Joe

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for replying bG. I'll check out the new info when it the time

comes. In the meantime I'm going to use the wrist Zilla for an hour a

day, hopefully for 30 minutes every 12 hours.

I'll keep in touch and let you all know how the Zhang herbal therapy

is going. With micro currents it could *possibly* lick Hep C for me,

if not it might give me dramatic health benefits. The stuff really

works and seems to immediately increase circulation and blood flow to

the liver.

He speaks highly of schizandra herb for Hep C. It's in what I'm taking.

Tony

[Guest guest]

Personally I consider the cloth covering essential to avoid exactly what

happened to you. I doubt there is any worry other than waiting for it to heal.

Jack

Injury from Using Godzilla

Hi,

I found two scabs on my back, and after a while I realized that they

probably are a result of my using 5x5 " stainless steel plates hitched

up to a 6v battery. I placed one on the liver and one directly behind

it. They seemed kind of slow to heal. I went to a doctor to have him

look at these. He said they are just scratches, but I didn't tell him

about the micro currents I use.

Is there any chance that I should be concerned about this turning into

a dangerous skin condition?

I picked the top off of one of these this morning. It must have been a

type of burn I got from where the wires are connected to the plates. I

wrap these up with wet cotton wash cloths and hold them on with bobby

pins. I didn't feel much pain when this happened, just the normal

tingling.

In the future I think I should make sure the plates are totally

covered by the cloths, and the pins are on the back of it and not

touching my skin.

Thanks for any advice on this.

Joe

[Guest guest]

I had cloth covering but still got a 3rd degree burn 3 times on the

wrist from just too much for too long. It took an inordinately long

time to heal.

What occurs is a hot spot begins and it accelerates as the body

rushes fluids to the burn area, thus reducing resistance and

increasing the current at the spot even more. It is a vicious cycle

if it gets out of hand. I hope using it wisely comes along with

this, but if not, then some minor burns are inevitable and

sensitivity to it at that spot will probably then be permanent. So,

go easy...

bG

>

> Personally I consider the cloth covering essential to avoid exactly

what happened to you. I doubt there is any worry other than waiting

for it to heal.

>

> Jack

> Injury from Using Godzilla

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I found two scabs on my back, and after a while I realized that they

> probably are a result of my using 5x5 " stainless steel plates

hitched

> up to a 6v battery. I placed one on the liver and one directly

behind

> it. They seemed kind of slow to heal. I went to a doctor to have him

> look at these. He said they are just scratches, but I didn't tell

him

> about the micro currents I use.

>

> Is there any chance that I should be concerned about this turning

into

> a dangerous skin condition?

>

> I picked the top off of one of these this morning. It must have

been a

> type of burn I got from where the wires are connected to the

plates. I

> wrap these up with wet cotton wash cloths and hold them on with

bobby

> pins. I didn't feel much pain when this happened, just the normal

> tingling.

>

> In the future I think I should make sure the plates are totally

> covered by the cloths, and the pins are on the back of it and not

> touching my skin.

>

> Thanks for any advice on this.

>

> Joe

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Do you know what the current was? Wasn't there some sensation at the

application point? I know I'm full of questions but this seems like an

important subject.

Jack

Injury from Using Godzilla

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I found two scabs on my back, and after a while I realized that they

> probably are a result of my using 5x5 " stainless steel plates

hitched

> up to a 6v battery. I placed one on the liver and one directly

behind

> it. They seemed kind of slow to heal. I went to a doctor to have him

> look at these. He said they are just scratches, but I didn't tell

him

> about the micro currents I use.

>

> Is there any chance that I should be concerned about this turning

into

> a dangerous skin condition?

>

> I picked the top off of one of these this morning. It must have

been a

> type of burn I got from where the wires are connected to the

plates. I

> wrap these up with wet cotton wash cloths and hold them on with

bobby

> pins. I didn't feel much pain when this happened, just the normal

> tingling.

>

> In the future I think I should make sure the plates are totally

> covered by the cloths, and the pins are on the back of it and not

> touching my skin.

>

> Thanks for any advice on this.

>

> Joe

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Your new idea sounds interesting, but - for me - the pictures will be really

necessary, because so far I don't have a clue.

DCH

Re: Injury from Using Godzilla

Hot spots are hard to fix, even if you do wrap things very

carefully. I think it may be better to use a sponge than cloth or

other covering. The type of sponge is the " ocello " or cellulose

that holds water pretty well. Natural sponge or plastic sponge

usually do not hold water as well.

The way I like to construct it is like " fingers " on a glove, but

using a solid but flexible backing. The easiest is a large foam

paint brush. I will post some photos soon of this idea and it may

be interesting for you to try out vs the thing you now use.

I like the fingers idea as it limits how much current can go into

each finger, and when applied to body, it is more concentrated than

a flat pad. Each finger is like a ray going into the body, and if

you move a bit during the application, it should provide an intense

beam into the body through a more narrow area and be more aggressive

against the germs in the path.

bG

>

> Hi,

>

> I found two scabs on my back, and after a while I realized that

they

> probably are a result of my using 5x5 " stainless steel plates

hitched

> up to a 6v battery. I placed one on the liver and one directly

behind

> it. They seemed kind of slow to heal. I went to a doctor to have

him

> look at these. He said they are just scratches, but I didn't tell

him

> about the micro currents I use.

>

> Is there any chance that I should be concerned about this turning

into

> a dangerous skin condition?

>

> I picked the top off of one of these this morning. It must have

been a

> type of burn I got from where the wires are connected to the

plates. I

> wrap these up with wet cotton wash cloths and hold them on with

bobby

> pins. I didn't feel much pain when this happened, just the normal

> tingling.

>

> In the future I think I should make sure the plates are totally

> covered by the cloths, and the pins are on the back of it and not

> touching my skin.

>

> Thanks for any advice on this.

>

> Joe

>

[Guest guest]

As an aside, I had a similar problem with

'biocircuits' about 30 years back. But my problem was

because of a non-similar metal problem (in my case

lead/tin solder that was used to fix wire to copper

screen) Since our body looks like a bowl of salt

water, dissimilar metals make a pretty good battery,

like it or not. I found that covering my solder

joints with plastic tape solved the problem.

I seem to recall that the fellow who started this

subject was using copper connected to stainless steel

-- a potential problem if the junction and presumed

copper were not kept well out of the circuit.

--- baby_grand <no_reply > wrote:

> I had cloth covering but still got a 3rd degree burn

> 3 times on the

> wrist from just too much for too long. It took an

> inordinately long

> time to heal.

>

> What occurs is a hot spot begins and it accelerates

> as the body

> rushes fluids to the burn area, thus reducing

> resistance and

> increasing the current at the spot even more. It is

> a vicious cycle

> if it gets out of hand. I hope using it wisely

> comes along with

> this, but if not, then some minor burns are

> inevitable and

> sensitivity to it at that spot will probably then be

> permanent. So,

> go easy...

>

> bG

>

>

> >

> > Personally I consider the cloth covering essential

> to avoid exactly

> what happened to you. I doubt there is any worry

> other than waiting

> for it to heal.

> >

> > Jack

> > Injury from

> Using Godzilla

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I found two scabs on my back, and after a while I

> realized that they

> > probably are a result of my using 5x5 " stainless

> steel plates

> hitched

> > up to a 6v battery. I placed one on the liver and

> one directly

> behind

> > it. They seemed kind of slow to heal. I went to a

> doctor to have him

> > look at these. He said they are just scratches,

> but I didn't tell

> him

> > about the micro currents I use.

> >

> > Is there any chance that I should be concerned

> about this turning

> into

> > a dangerous skin condition?

> >

> > I picked the top off of one of these this morning.

> It must have

> been a

> > type of burn I got from where the wires are

> connected to the

> plates. I

> > wrap these up with wet cotton wash cloths and hold

> them on with

> bobby

> > pins. I didn't feel much pain when this happened,

> just the normal

> > tingling.

> >

> > In the future I think I should make sure the

> plates are totally

> > covered by the cloths, and the pins are on the

> back of it and not

> > touching my skin.

> >

> > Thanks for any advice on this.

> >

> > Joe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

The biggest thing that causes burns is not keeping the electrodes wet

enough and not having them tight against the skin. the reason for

this is that the current concentrates on one point and that is like

turning the power way up. keep electrodes wet and tight against skin

keeps the current conducting over the entire surface of the

electrode. You want the current to be distributed over the entire

surface of the electrode not matter what and the only way to do it is

to keep it BOTH wet and tight against skin.

Even if its wet and not tight you can get burned because the

tightness determines the resistance between the electrode and the

skin. you want the least resistance possible over the entire surface

of the electrode to keep the current spread out over the entire

surface. All electrical action happens at the point where the

resistance is highest. A light bulb is a good example, the current

flows throught the entire circuit of the house wiring and switcg but

the light is generated at the light bulb filament because that is the

point of highest resistance, same with a toaster, the elements in the

toaster have a higher resistance than the power cord does that is why

it gets hot in the filaments. Same applies to your electrodes, the

point with the greatest resistance burns.

So keep them wet and keep them tight so you don't create a high

resistance point.

I know when I use the wrist electrodes I need to refresh the water in

the cotton at least every 15 minutes. If you are not doing that you

will eventually get burned. the burns do not hurt while you are

getting burned but they do after and they heal very slowly.

V

On Oct 4, 2006, at 10:10 PM, JACK MILLIORN wrote:

> Do you know what the current was? Wasn't there some sensation at

> the application point? I know I'm full of questions but this seems

> like an important subject.

>

> Jack

> Injury from Using Godzilla

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I found two scabs on my back, and after a while I realized that they

> > probably are a result of my using 5x5 " stainless steel plates

> hitched

> > up to a 6v battery. I placed one on the liver and one directly

> behind

> > it. They seemed kind of slow to heal. I went to a doctor to have him

> > look at these. He said they are just scratches, but I didn't tell

> him

> > about the micro currents I use.

> >

> > Is there any chance that I should be concerned about this turning

> into

> > a dangerous skin condition?

> >

> > I picked the top off of one of these this morning. It must have

> been a

> > type of burn I got from where the wires are connected to the

> plates. I

> > wrap these up with wet cotton wash cloths and hold them on with

> bobby

> > pins. I didn't feel much pain when this happened, just the normal

> > tingling.

> >

> > In the future I think I should make sure the plates are totally

> > covered by the cloths, and the pins are on the back of it and not

> > touching my skin.

> >

> > Thanks for any advice on this.

> >

> > Joe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

When I burned my wrist from trying to see how much I could stand (this was a

couple years ago when we were building the 4hz Beck device, and I put in a

smaller resistor, so I could crank it up higher) I could feel a slight itch or

like an insect gnawing. BG has said that DC current does deaden feeling.

Dick

Injury from Using Godzilla

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I found two scabs on my back, and after a while I realized that they

> probably are a result of my using 5x5 " stainless steel plates

hitched

> up to a 6v battery. I placed one on the liver and one directly

behind

> it. They seemed kind of slow to heal. I went to a doctor to have him

> look at these. He said they are just scratches, but I didn't tell

him

> about the micro currents I use.

>

> Is there any chance that I should be concerned about this turning

into

> a dangerous skin condition?

>

> I picked the top off of one of these this morning. It must have

been a

> type of burn I got from where the wires are connected to the

plates. I

> wrap these up with wet cotton wash cloths and hold them on with

bobby

> pins. I didn't feel much pain when this happened, just the normal

> tingling.

>

> In the future I think I should make sure the plates are totally

> covered by the cloths, and the pins are on the back of it and not

> touching my skin.

>

> Thanks for any advice on this.

>

> Joe

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think they heal so slowly, because the heat cooks the flesh. I knew a kid in

the Army 50 years ago who said he went to sleep on a train and his leg fell over

against an unprotected steam pipe. He had on cowboy boots and didn't wake up

when it was cooking. (He may have been drunk.) He said it was cooked like a well

done roast, and took months to heal, after the doctors carved out the cooked

flesh.

Sleep well.

Dick

Injury from Using Godzilla

> >

> >

> > Hi,

> >

> > I found two scabs on my back, and after a while I realized that they

> > probably are a result of my using 5x5 " stainless steel plates

> hitched

> > up to a 6v battery. I placed one on the liver and one directly

> behind

> > it. They seemed kind of slow to heal. I went to a doctor to have him

> > look at these. He said they are just scratches, but I didn't tell

> him

> > about the micro currents I use.

> >

> > Is there any chance that I should be concerned about this turning

> into

> > a dangerous skin condition?

> >

> > I picked the top off of one of these this morning. It must have

> been a

> > type of burn I got from where the wires are connected to the

> plates. I

> > wrap these up with wet cotton wash cloths and hold them on with

> bobby

> > pins. I didn't feel much pain when this happened, just the normal

> > tingling.

> >

> > In the future I think I should make sure the plates are totally

> > covered by the cloths, and the pins are on the back of it and not

> > touching my skin.

> >

> > Thanks for any advice on this.

> >

> > Joe

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

About six months ago I did the same thing. I was overseas and had made a

new Ziller up. I applied it to my back for some problem or other when I was

alone in my room - warm in bed, with snow outside - and fell asleep. So all

night it could do what it liked to me. I didn't know anything was amiss

until I happened to feel what seemed to be a hole, a cavity, in my back and

then, when I felt around with my fingers, another. I guessed after a while

what it must be, thanks to bG having mentioned something about it way back.

The holes filled in with a scab, though I was not strong enough to resist

the temptation to scratch out the scab to have a look at it. Silly of me.

They were really holding on fast in some spots, but having started

scratching I kept on.

Even that healed well. At no stage did I feel pain, though I do get a bit

of an itch on my back sometimes that, come to think of it, may be related to

the episode.

Rowena

it. They seemed kind of slow to heal. I went to a doctor to have him

look at these. He said they are just scratches, but I didn't tell him

about the micro currents I use.

Is there any chance that I should be concerned about this turning into

a dangerous skin condition?

I picked the top off of one of these this morning.