Guest guest Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Tasha - our daughter was 5 when diagnosed with Systemic JRA. Here we are two years later and we are still " tweaking her medications " to get the disease under control. Every child is different - Even when Hunter's labs have been normal and there is no sign of a flare - she still has days when she feels sick - she is pale complains of tummy ache and feels down right yucky. She stays home and rest and gets plenty of fluids. The disease that our children have is very mysterious and difficult to treat at times. What medications is your son taking? Our daughter's school was such a pain at first - they only got to see Hunter on her good days - daH! I kept her home on her sick days. Their attitudes changed when one day at school - Hunter developed life threatening complications - she is fine but needless to say - the school became very aware of how serious this disease is. Now two years later - Hunter has made the principals list (all A'S) two times this school year - and she still misses 3 to 4 days a month of school. We all work together for the best possible world for Hunter. Good luck with your son's school - remember you are not only his mother but his advocate when it come to this disease. Sandi Ken Hunter (7Systemic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Tasha - we kept Hunter home March, April, May 2004 (her preschool year) During Kindergarten she was able to stay in school until Feb 2005 and was homeschooled the rest of the year. (I was a teacher at that time and resigned) She improved both times. Don't know if it was the fact she was home and the care she got or if the disease just changed course. We have not had to go to Embel/Enbrel? yet - she has done well with the MTX injections. She still has a lot of stomach issues - went today to have Abdomen ultrasound and Upper GI. Also incurs protein in her urine. Does your son ever experience night sweats? Hunter also takes Naproxen and the Folic Acid (which was recently increased to two tablets a day) She takes prevacid for her tummy. Is Roseville a suburb of Sacramento - we lived there for 5 years? What do the doctors think is causing the abdominal swelling? Gotta go do the dinner thing - Oh - does he take his lunch to school? Hunter always does better when I make her lunch - I hope this info helps - I am not usually so long winded> Good luck - it sounds like you have a pretty good handle of things - it took me awhile> Sandi Ken Hunter (7 Systemic) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Tasha, I was diagnosed at age 4 as well, and went through the public school system, including pre-school. I too had bad days, but rarely missed school. It was very important for myself, and my parents that I continue in my education with a normal progression, and not get behind. Kids are very versatile, especially ones with a chronic illness. I think you can overcome any obstacle, and I have, in part due to my parents strong will to help me keep going. I hope this helps, and I hope others like me will voice their opinions as well. Fischer DPA Architects, Inc. pfischer@... Preschool or no preschool?? Thanks to everyone who responded to my previous post. I am really torn right now. My son, Elijah (age 4 diagnosed systemic Jan 2005) is currently in preschool, but has been missing quite a few days. His school started back from the holiday break on Jan. 9th, and he has missed 3 days. He started feeling sick last Wed night and has yet to feel better. I can tell when I talk to the school, they don't like that he misses so much... but I refuse to send him when he's not feeling well. My dilemna is... do I keep him in preschool or pull him out... I just don't know what would be best. Tasha (Roseville, CA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 When my oldest daughter (not my child w/JRA) was about 4, she developed strep throat and scarlet fever every month for about 10 months. At one point, in an effort to see if she would improve, we had to pull her out of preschool. She was out for about 2 months, did not improve and had her tonsils out. She went back after that. Her preschool was in a local day care center and they were willing to be flexible with us. It is a decision that only you can make. I was lucky - at the time I was a stay at home mom - so work for me was not a factor. Keeping her home did help her to get stronger, even though the infection was in her tonsils so not really anything to do with preschool. I would talk with your ped and get his/her thoughts. Also, talk with the teacher and school admin. Keeping him out of preschool will not ultimately hurt how he does in school - my daughter is in her last semester of college with great grades - and it may help him to feel better/stronger and keep his incidence of colds and things like that down for awhile. Good luck, Michele ( 18, spondy) Preschool or no preschool?? Thanks to everyone who responded to my previous post. I am really torn right now. My son, Elijah (age 4 diagnosed systemic Jan 2005) is currently in preschool, but has been missing quite a few days. His school started back from the holiday break on Jan. 9th, and he has missed 3 days. He started feeling sick last Wed night and has yet to feel better. I can tell when I talk to the school, they don't like that he misses so much... but I refuse to send him when he's not feeling well. My dilemna is... do I keep him in preschool or pull him out... I just don't know what would be best. Tasha (Roseville, CA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Tasha, I guess you are talking about private preschool where you pay if your child is there or not. My son caught a virus in preschool,actualy the transitional 2 yr class, that triggered his arthritis.We had to take him out,he had systemic disease and was totaly crippled in the beginning. It took a little work but a few months later at the age of 3 we got him in special ed preschool 2 days a week for 4 hrs.That was all he could handle. Don't let special ed scare you.Most kids had ADD/ADHD or looked and seamed perfectly normal.One child had recurrant ear infection and he had loss of hearing.Only 1 child had a severe disability. It helped us tremendously before our son actualy started kindergarten. We were told it would be best to just teach him at home.I dissagreed,he needed the social aspects of it all. It was a hard decision to make but it was free unlike the almost $100 a week for the place he was going to. You have gotten alot of great advice and only you can make the decision. Becki and 7 systemic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 In a message dated 1/17/06 1:22:43 PM Central Standard Time, burgesspierce@... writes: > Thanks to everyone who responded to my previous post. I am really > torn right now. My son, Elijah (age 4 diagnosed systemic Jan 2005) is > currently in preschool, but has been missing quite a few days. His > school started back from the holiday break on Jan. 9th, and he has > missed 3 days. He started feeling sick last Wed night and has yet to > feel better. I can tell when I talk to the school, they don't like > that he misses so much... but I refuse to send him when he's not > feeling well. My dilemna is... do I keep him in preschool or pull him > out... I just don't know what would be best. > > Tasha (Roseville, CA) > Hi, I can both sides of your dilemma. I have a 10 year old daughter with jra and was diagnosed 3 years ago. I am also a kindergarten teacher. What is best for your child is to keep him in preschool. You will need to talk to the nurse or counselor to start a 504 plan for medical reasons that way he can miss days and not be retained. In Texas, kindergarten is very academic so it is essential they get to 1st grade reading, writing, have skills in math, besides social skills, and fine motor skills. Talk to the teacher and make her aware of your concerns and be prepared to fight for your son. I have had to do it. My daughter has had some teachers with no common sense. Since my daughter does not show an illness they think there is nothing wrong. I have talked to these teachers and made them aware they will respect the 504 plan and will provide the education for my daughter. Teachers sometimes care about results because that is how we are measured. We are measured by attendance and test scores so sometimes teachers forget what is important in the lives of our children. So sad to say. Hope this helps. o Salas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Hi Tasha, I am sorry to hear of Elijah's ongoing problems. My son was 4 when he was diagnosed with systemic onset, he is now 8 years old and in the 3rd grade. We live in land - and preschool wasn't required prior to Kindergarden. Is it required where you are? If required, I would work with the school so they could provide assistance in helping Elijah keep up, and have him in school when he feels well enough. With that said, my situation was a little different - though preschool wasn't required & my son started Kindergarden 3 months before he turned 5, he was in a preschool/daycare setting as I had to work, as a single parent. There were many days he went to daycare when he wasn't feeling 100% - and many days when half way through the day, I would be called to come and pick him up - sometimes when he'd been feeling fine that morning, sometimes when he wasn't. That was in the early days after onset, when were working with IV meds and raising the po steriods and other meds to get to a level that had him well controlled. After that - for the next few years Robbie was either nearly 100% and going to school - or entirely too ill - unable to walk, fever over 104/105 and basicly unable to move, peirod. His flares would come on fast and furious - so there was never any question. When well, he went to school - when sick, he didn't. But, we often picked up school work - and once the IV meds started kicking in, he was making up school work to stay caught up. This was as big a concern for him and it was for me. Once, when on our way for him to be admitted, he told me we had to stop by the school and get his work, because he didn't want to get behind in math. So, in spite of missing many school days, with at least 2 admissions per school year (if I am looking back and counting correctly) - there were some admissions that occurred in the summers - so I may be a little off count. Things have been quite different, however this school year. No big flares (knock on wood) - no fevers, no rashes - no hospitalizations thus far - but in many ways it has been the most trying school year so far. He continues to do well in school, and the school continues to work with us without problems, but this year is the first that the Arthritis has made a daily impact on school. Last year was nearly like that - with a lot of complications creating problems that went on log term - but this year his ongoing back pain has presented major problems in his getting to school on time in the morning. this impacts his school work and my work hours. With that said, he has missed very few days this year - he knows once the meds kick in, he needs to be in school to stay caught up - and most days when he goes in late by the time he does go in he feels pretty good. There are days that he would rather stay home - but we have discussed at length that when able to participate - he needs to, the days away from school have to be reserved for when he really can't function at all - or is in too much pain. I keep him home when it is obvious he is going to have difficulty getting around - and when he is unable to sit for any time at all without pain. When it isn't so bad, he can go to school, and get up and move around when necessary to keep the pain and stiffness at bay. he is also able to go to the school nurse whenever he feels he needs to - and can lay down and rest there. He also knows that at any time the school nurse will call me and i will come and pick him up if necessary - she always calls me when he has been in her office - to let me know, and often he and I talk and determine if he needs me to come and get him. Oh - my long and rambling responses! I don't know if this has been any help - but I took a very long time to tell you that with us it's a day to day call - sometimes it's an easy call to make, other times not so easy. But taking Robbie out of daycare/preschool and later school entirely hasn't really been an option for us. But, I don't hesitate to keep him home when needed - and I expect & receive support from the school, not grief. The days that I have taken Robbie to school and expected to be called before lunch to pick him up, I haven't been - and other days when he was fine in the morning - I am on my way to get him. It's a hard call to make. There are a lot of benefits to preschool - the socialization, preparing for the classroom environment, etc - but maybe keeping Elijah home is the best answer for you - and hopefully things will improve by the new school year. You will be able to sort it all out, and find the right choice to make for Elijah. I hope that he feels better quickly! Val Rob's mom (8,systemic) Preschool or no preschool?? Thanks to everyone who responded to my previous post. I am really torn right now. My son, Elijah (age 4 diagnosed systemic Jan 2005) is currently in preschool, but has been missing quite a few days. His school started back from the holiday break on Jan. 9th, and he has missed 3 days. He started feeling sick last Wed night and has yet to feel better. I can tell when I talk to the school, they don't like that he misses so much... but I refuse to send him when he's not feeling well. My dilemna is... do I keep him in preschool or pull him out... I just don't know what would be best. 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Guest guest Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 Hi Tasha, The worst feeling in the world is making the decision to decide if your child should stay home or miss yet another day. I worried about this for several years before my daughter was even diagnosed. She would crawl down the stairs saying her legs hurt but would be fine and running in the afternoon. Now we know that her arther was kicking her butt. I felt like the worst parent in the world when I made her go and then come to find out she was legitimately sick. (I see future therapy bills comingLOL) My doctor says that she should go to school and work through it. She recommended we start the day earlier with PT and warm baths, good breakfast and most importantly sit down with the school and explain that there will be days when your child will be late or not in at all. If you can find a way to make the school your ally now it will make things so much easier later on. We've been fortunate that my daughter has been in the same school since she was 1 year old (She attends daycare as well) They understand her strengths and work with us. Her brother picks up her homework when she doesn't make it. Each teacher has been different in their approach to teaching her but they've all worked with us. One teacher even carries her books up to the third floor for her. Sometimes she sits out in gym sometimes not. We really let her decide how much she can do. She knows that she always has to try and if it hurts she can stop. Kind of like trying new foods, she has to try 8 no thank you bites before she can decide that she doesn't like something. Hope this helps. Melinda and Lily Grace 8 (pauci) > > Thanks to everyone who responded to my previous post. I am really > torn right now. My son, Elijah (age 4 diagnosed systemic Jan 2005) is > currently in preschool, but has been missing quite a few days. His > school started back from the holiday break on Jan. 9th, and he has > missed 3 days. He started feeling sick last Wed night and has yet to > feel better. I can tell when I talk to the school, they don't like > that he misses so much... but I refuse to send him when he's not > feeling well. My dilemna is... do I keep him in preschool or pull him > out... I just don't know what would be best. > > Tasha (Roseville, CA) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2006 Report Share Posted January 17, 2006 It's nice to know I am not the only parent who has had to make tough school decisions. We live in California and preschool is not required and I am a stay at home mommy to Elijah (age 4) and his little sister (age 3) and little brother (age 2). Since being diagnosed, Elijah has really not felt well any day... some days are better than others, but each morning he is achy, etc. On most days, he gets up and works through whatever aches he has and is ok all day, whether he is home or at school. I guess my concern comes from his exposure to so many viruses when his immune system is so low. He has been hospitialized for observation and rule out of sepsis on one occassion, because he has gotten sick and couldn't get over it... and after that he had to go in a couple times for IV antibiotics just as a precaution (his white cell count has been extremely high... around 53,000 at it's highest... so I guess that's my concern. Also,in addition to his joints hurting (mainly wrists, knees, ankles, and back) he also has a lot of problems with his stomach. It swells alot and is one of the main reasons he has been hospitalized. So many night he's up for 2 or 3 hours during the middle of the night because it hurts when he lays down or just hurts in general. He also gets fevers sometimes still and typically has his rash on some part of his body each day. With all that being said, just like any parent I don't want to take him out of everything in life in fear that he may be exposed to something and become ill. My husband and I have every intent on putting him in kindergarten in the fall and we just signed him up for baseball for the spring. So he's active when he can be and is very social and outgoing. My husband is a pastor so he is also in a class at church 2 x per week. I just don't know if for now preschool is necessary (not to mention he is way ahead of his age academically). Sorry to be so long winded and to ramble on... thanks agaion for all your input! Tasha By the way, he is currently on these meds: prednisone (4ml each day), Enbrel (25mg shot 2x a week), Naprosyn (4ml 2x each day), Zantac (2ml 2x each day), Folic acid, Methotrexate (12.5 mg each week) sand I think that's all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Sandi - Thanks for getting back to me. Elijah does have a lot of stomach issues and he also gets night sweats... sometimes he wakes up and tells me mommy i'm soaked all over. I kind of assumed it was from the medicines. When he was first admitted to the hospital, just a couple days after a tentative diagnosis of systemic JRA, his stomach swelled so much. All he could do was cry in pain, so we took him to the ER and they admitted him. They thought he may be dealing with MAS since he had just started MXT. Thankfully it was not MAS and after 5 nights in the hospital, they determined it was swollen due to inflammation and fluid around the intestines. While in the hospital he also had some fluid around his lungs and the lining of the heart... all of which is Systemic JRA related. Thanks again for all the info. And by the way, Roseville is just about 10 miles north of Sacramento, CA. Tahs > > Tasha - we kept Hunter home March, April, May 2004 (her preschool year) > During Kindergarten she was able to stay in school until Feb 2005 and was > homeschooled the rest of the year. (I was a teacher at that time and resigned) > She improved both times. Don't know if it was the fact she was home and the > care she got or if the disease just changed course. We have not had to go to > Embel/Enbrel? yet - she has done well with the MTX injections. She still has > a lot of stomach issues - went today to have Abdomen ultrasound and Upper GI. > Also incurs protein in her urine. Does your son ever experience night > sweats? Hunter also takes Naproxen and the Folic Acid (which was recently > increased to two tablets a day) She takes prevacid for her tummy. Is Roseville a > suburb of Sacramento - we lived there for 5 years? What do the doctors think > is causing the abdominal swelling? Gotta go do the dinner thing - Oh - does > he take his lunch to school? Hunter always does better when I make her > lunch - I hope this info helps - I am not usually so long winded> Good luck - > it sounds like you have a pretty good handle of things - it took me awhile> > Sandi Ken Hunter (7 Systemic) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2006 Report Share Posted January 18, 2006 Hi Tasha, My son of 4 is also in preschool/daycare and we are torn as well and he does not even have JRA. If both of us did not have to work we would probably keep him at home. Our three girls were ahead of the curve by going to preschool, but I guess that is not everything. As far as the school, I am assuming you are paying for it right? It is preschool right? I would say keep him in if you must and he will learn when he can and he is ready. Don't ever feel bad about the days he misses. It is going to happen and that is the nature of the disease. taylor (Poly 35) Preschool or no preschool?? Thanks to everyone who responded to my previous post. I am really torn right now. My son, Elijah (age 4 diagnosed systemic Jan 2005) is currently in preschool, but has been missing quite a few days. His school started back from the holiday break on Jan. 9th, and he has missed 3 days. He started feeling sick last Wed night and has yet to feel better. I can tell when I talk to the school, they don't like that he misses so much... but I refuse to send him when he's not feeling well. My dilemna is... do I keep him in preschool or pull him out... I just don't know what would be best. Tasha (Roseville, CA) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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