Guest guest Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 Hi Debi. In the world of liver enzymes these are still relatively low numbers. My daughter had liver enzyme problems earlier this year due to Salsalate. According to my daughter's ped rheumy they aren't considered elevated, enough to do anything about, until they are 3 times normal. My daughter's went from normal for every test she had ever had, for liver function, to 5 times normal the first month after starting the Salsalate. We stopped the Salsalate and tested her blood until it returned to normal. We reintroduced the Salsalate and retested and her ALT was already up over 200 after only 1 week. I would keep an eye on it. but I don't think you have to do anything different at her current levels. Good luck, Kim In a message dated 8/7/2005 3:26:41 PM Central Standard Time, debiannp@... writes: But the liver enzymes have been coming back high. What do you makeof this and what would you do next?AST 11july 38 / 25 July 44 HIgh normal is 35ALT 11july 43 / 25 July 57 high normal is 40I do not like the stair stepping of the results. She has more blood work done tomorrow (monday) with results due back Wed.Thanks for all ideas/adviceDebi (mom to leigh 12 Poly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 Hi Debi, Yes them stair stepping can be bothersome but let me reassure you those are not bad results. There likely will be more monitoring like you are doing but at this point there likely will be no med changes. The liver is an amazing organ that does so much for us with purifying the body. The results can be horrendous and it still works quite efficiently. My husband numbers run in the 600-800s and up and you would never know it. Also norms are based on the average population who typically are healthy and drug free. So, I wouldn't panic too much. Sounds like your doc is doing a good job of watching the levels. You may need to do some dose reduction to keep things in check which hopefully will not cause any flares. Let us know how her tests go and what the doc says. It always interests me to see what the various docs do about med changes etc. Best of luck that this will resolve itself on its own. e, mom to joe 18 poly+Debi <debiannp@...> wrote: Hello All;Things have been quiet for us on the JRA front. No flare since Aprilyeah!!! leigh has been doing so well, horseback riding, traininga new puppy, just being a kid! I want to keep this up so she will be aable to stay in school this year.But the liver enzymes have been coming back high. What do you makeof this and what would you do next?AST 11july 38 / 25 July 44 HIgh normal is 35ALT 11july 43 / 25 July 57 high normal is 40I do not like the stair stepping of the results. She has more blood work done tomorrow (monday) with results due back Wed.Thanks for all ideas/adviceDebi (mom to leigh 12 Poly) Start your day with - make it your home page Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2005 Report Share Posted August 7, 2005 Debi:Interestingly, my Rob's ALT was 47 this last week. Again, not to worry. However, it was interesting at the peds office, the doctor remarked that a slight elevation in ALT is indicative of a growth spurt. I'd never heard that before! and Rob 16 Spondy On Sun, 7 Aug 2005 16:42:37 EDT mnmomof1@... writes: Hi Debi. In the world of liver enzymes these are still relatively low numbers. My daughter had liver enzyme problems earlier this year due to Salsalate. According to my daughter's ped rheumy they aren't considered elevated, enough to do anything about, until they are 3 times normal. My daughter's went from normal for every test she had ever had, for liver function, to 5 times normal the first month after starting the Salsalate. We stopped the Salsalate and tested her blood until it returned to normal. We reintroduced the Salsalate and retested and her ALT was already up over 200 after only 1 week. I would keep an eye on it. but I don't think you have to do anything different at her current levels. Good luck, Kim In a message dated 8/7/2005 3:26:41 PM Central Standard Time, debiannp@... writes: But the liver enzymes have been coming back high. What do you makeof this and what would you do next?AST 11july 38 / 25 July 44 HIgh normal is 35ALT 11july 43 / 25 July 57 high normal is 40I do not like the stair stepping of the results. She has more blood work done tomorrow (monday) with results due back Wed.Thanks for all ideas/adviceDebi (mom to leigh 12 Poly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2005 Report Share Posted August 8, 2005 I was once told by my daughters ped rheumy that anything under 100 was " normal " for a short time when the person is on mtx. Christy (Abbie, 16 systemic, spondy?) Liver enzymes > Hello All; > > Things have been quiet for us on the JRA front. No flare since April > > yeah!!! leigh has been doing so well, horseback riding, training > a > new puppy, just being a kid! I want to keep this up so she will be > aable to stay in school this year. > > > But the liver enzymes have been coming back high. What do you make > of > this and what would you do next? > > AST 11july 38 / 25 July 44 HIgh normal is 35 > ALT 11july 43 / 25 July 57 high normal is 40 > > > I do not like the stair stepping of the results. She has more blood > work done tomorrow (monday) with results due back Wed. > > Thanks for all ideas/advice > > Debi (mom to leigh 12 Poly) > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 11, 2009 Report Share Posted November 11, 2009 Hello Bee and Happy Birthday to you!! A couple of weeks ago I told you that my blood tests showed my liver enzymes elevated and that my natural dr wanted me to use milk thistle. You suggested using milk thistle tea, which I've been doing for about a week. The first couple of days I only had the tea once, the last 5 days, twice a day. Fatigue and brain fog has been much greater the last three days. I'm thinking it might be due to the milk thistle cleansing my liver and causing it to dump more toxins. I'm wondering if I should not bother with the milk thistle and just not worry about the elevated enzymes since they tend to elevate anyway with all the cleansing happening? I do coffee enemas, not as often as you suggest due to circumstances at home. I think it has been 2 weeks since the last one, and I plan on doing one tomorrow. Leesa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 2, 2010 Report Share Posted February 2, 2010 My son gets elevated liver enzymes once in a while. They are usually repeated in 2 weeks. Sometimes being sick with a bug or in a growth spurt can actually raise the numbers. For Andy, he has never had to discontinue or take a lessened amount of medication when this happens, especially when it is only slightly elevated. I hope this is true for your daughter's case, too. On Tue, Feb 2, 2010 at 12:04 PM, kim_j_williams@... < kim_j_williams@...> wrote: > > > I guess what bothers me is that if she is having elevated liver enzymes > will she not be able to get the correct amount of MXT to help control her > JIA? She just had an increase because her current dose (Mon she saw him and > he increased her dose, the test was before this)is not enough and the jaw is > having issues, she is more limited on her opening. I really would like to be > able to do something to make this better. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2010 Report Share Posted February 3, 2010 Grant has had elevated liver enzymes every now and then as well. The rheumy is never concerned about it because he said that it could be because of a cold or virus. We just get rechecked a few weeks later. It has always been normal the next time we check. I think you should be concerned if it is still elevated after a recheck. & Grant (12, psoriactic/uvietis) > > > > > > > I guess what bothers me is that if she is having elevated liver enzymes > > will she not be able to get the correct amount of MXT to help control her > > JIA? She just had an increase because her current dose (Mon she saw him and > > he increased her dose, the test was before this)is not enough and the jaw is > > having issues, she is more limited on her opening. I really would like to be > > able to do something to make this better. > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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