Hypoxia

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I think I can help here, I got the CD from Cheney.

It's called: Breathing- The master key to self healing by Weil.

If you want to save the $, carol posted the technique in a post shortly

after she returned from Cheney. I will copy and repost for you.

PS. I am eternally greatful to Carol for all the transcription of her

Cheney visit.

" New " Breathing Technique: no cost, easier, and more effective at

increasing oxygen transport than the " rebreather " protocol.

First, the benefits of increased oxygen:

1) more energy at the cellular level;

2) suppresses growth of yeast (and other pathogens);

3) prevents swelling of the brain caused by decreased oxygen; Dr. Cheney

said this was not uncommon in CFIDS and is the connection between Chiari

Malformation and CFIDS. (The pressure-like headaches that many of us get

also came to mind!) Dr. Cheney said that Chiari is a compression phenomenon

die to lack of sufficient width/depth at the base of the skull, while CFIDS

is a compression phenomenon due to anoxic cerebral edema (brain swelling

due to lack of oxygen, is a correct " translation " , I think.)

Many are familiar with Dr. Cheney's earlier oxygen protocol using a partial

rebreather mask to address tissue acidosis/blood alkalosis and thereby

improve oxygen transport from the blood into cells. (see

www.virtualhometown.com/dfwcfids - Cheney Treatment Plan - Prescriptions)

Dr. Cheney has realized this rebreather protocol, while beneficial, has

limitations. It can be difficult to find the equipment, expensive, and

requires much " tweaking " . Most significantly, he has come to realize that

it does not address the underlying problem of 2,3 DPG levels.

2,3 DPG is a substance that allows oxygen to be released from the

hemoglobin in our blood. Without 2,3 DPG, oxygen can't get off the

hemoglobin and into the cells of our body. This oxygen deprivation makes

the body switch over to anaerobic metabolism, which produces tissue

acidosis, which can be painful. However, the more 2,3 DPG one has, the more

oxygen is released from the blood into the tissues and organs - and brain.

(And oxygen will help kill candida and other pathogens.)

The very simple breathing technique Cheney is recommending to all his

patients can be found on Weil's tape/CD of eight different breathing

methods. This particular method is Weil's favorite - he says it's the most

powerful way to treat chronic illness that he knows of. Ayurvedic

physicians developed it 3,000 years ago. And 30 years of clinical

experience now back it up.

Inhale through your nose for 4 seconds. Hold your breath for 7 seconds.

Exhale through tightly pursed lips for 8 seconds, creating " back pressure " .

(You should be able to hear the air being forced out of your mouth.) Do

this 8 times - a total of two-and-a-half minutes. Do this twice a day - a

grand total of 5 minutes a day. That's all it takes. (If you feel

lightheaded just do it 6 times - or until you begin to feel lightheaded -

then build up to 8.) You must be very faithful and consistent for this to

work, and it takes weeks for the body to adjust the 2,3 DPG levels. But

your oxygen transport will get better and better over time.

What does this do? This method is based on the same principle at work in

the marathon runners from Kenya who always win the Boston Marathon. They

live and train at a high altitude. They run like fiends at 12,000 feet. To

compensate for the lack of oxygen at higher altitudes, their bodies make a

physiological adjustment - raising 2,3 DPG levels so more oxygen is

released. The higher the 2,3 DPG goes, the easier it is to run. Then the

Kenyans go to Boston, which is at sea level (with more oxygen in the

atmosphere of course), and run their race. But their bodies are still set

for high altitude, so they end up with more oxygen being transported into

their tissues than other runners. They are super-oxygenated, transporting

oxygen like crazy.

Dr. Cheney's goal is to trick our bodies into thinking we live at a higher

altitude, thus raising our 2,3 DPG levels, thereby transporting more oxygen

from our blood into our tissues. How is that done? By not breathing! This

method is actually regulated breath holding. As you regularly breath hold,

your O2 drops. You induce a state called desaturation. (I assume this means

not enough oxygen). And for those five minutes a day of desaturation your

body panics. It believes it's high up in the mountains and it spends the

rest of the day compensating for that (by raising 2,3 DPG), even though

you're not up in the mountains. The body is so paranoid about desaturation

that even though you live in Dallas, for example, it will program your body

as if you live in Denver.

Besides being cheaper, easier, and more effective, Cheney says this method

has another advantage over the rebreather mask - you can't " over-regulate " .

I think this means to over correct. With the rebreather mask you can

" counter-regulate " in a complex way I didn't follow, but the result is that

you can get too much oxygen transfer going on, which will cause your body

to lower 2,3 DPG, ultimately lowering oxygen transfer. This is why the

rebreather stopped working for many of us after several months. With this

breathing method, Cheney said that the body will raise 2,3 DPG to the point

that it is beneficial, but it won't raise it so high that it some how (I

didn't follow the explanation) " forces a more profound alkalosis " of the

blood.

Happy Breathing! Carol

>Steve,

> Could you tell me specifically which Weil tape you wrote of

>with breathing exercises?

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a: Lucey's excellent and lucid reply probably took care of

your question, but if you're still interested in the cd there was a copy

at WWW.HALF.COM for about half price a week or so ago.

E.

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<< E.,

This is exactly what I was looking for. Were you waking up in the night

gasping for air ?

Not quite. I never really " gasped " for air, it just would make it

worse. For me, shallow breathing was the key to get through it. If I

stayed calm/still and breathed extremely shallow I would eventually get

a small partial reprieve and start to come back to life a little. At

times I would be hardly breathing for minutes just enough to stay alive

I guess. I would wake up a little short of breath and it would usually

start getting worse and with a type of angina left arm chest discomfort

and pressure. Sometimes it would stay and keep me awake the rest of the

night, sometimes not. A lot of the worst episodes were during the day.

I guess I still occasionally wake at night with a few of these symptoms

(very mild) but pretty much consider that stuff to be over with. Knock

on wood.

I wonder if the slow push IV magnesium might be of particular value

for people experiencing these types of problems. It's used for angina,

heart conditions and asthma. ??? A friend told me that mag. can knock

the O2 off of the hemoglobin, but I haven't confirmed that info anywhere

(or tried). Magnesium sulfate is cheap and one could learn to do the

IV's at home with a helper. Just a thought.

E.

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<<Did the SOB get worse at night and did you wake up as you were going

to sleep out of breath?

I fairly often had it between 2 and 4 am which is when I also tend to

have trouble with sleep. I don't think I ever woke up suddenly out of

breath more like woke up because it was starting, also, I had a lot of

episodes during the day.

E.

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The inverse of hyperbaric therapy: http://hypoxico.com/14.html

They take the oxygen out of the atmosphere to make the body go into

overdrive it seems. It's a new one on me. J.

[Guest guest]

it is like masking, or increasing co to make your body bring more

oxygen to the brain. It is suppost to ready the body for mountain climbing,

I would look for more studies before I tried it

Re: Hypoxia

> The inverse of hyperbaric therapy: http://hypoxico.com/14.html

> They take the oxygen out of the atmosphere to make the body go into

> overdrive it seems. It's a new one on me. J.

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Interesting, Tree breathing, I have many plants, someday I will use my meter

to see which ones give off the most

Re: Hypoxia

> > it is like masking, or increasing co to make your body bring more

> > oxygen to the brain. It is suppost to ready the body for mountain

climbing,

> > I would look for more studies before I tried it.

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> I don't plan to try it. I don't feel that great at high altitudes. I

> was just bemused by it.

> Speaking of oxygen today I read that a good way to get some is to do

> deep breathing by a tree. I wonder which type of trees are best for

> exuding oxygen at mouth level??

> J.

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> it is like masking, or increasing co to make your body bring more

> oxygen to the brain. It is suppost to ready the body for mountain climbing,

> I would look for more studies before I tried it.

>

I don't plan to try it. I don't feel that great at high altitudes. I

was just bemused by it.

Speaking of oxygen today I read that a good way to get some is to do

deep breathing by a tree. I wonder which type of trees are best for

exuding oxygen at mouth level??

J.

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Jim--Any idea of the mechanism of sugar scavenging oxygen? J.

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There is a breathing excercise that does this trick very effectively. The idea

is to breath out to the very most extreme point of emptying your lungs

completely. Then " relax " with no air and feel the vacuum suction effect on your

organs. Wait till a suitable level of desperation for oxygen has been attained,

then, breath in fully. Repeat three to five times, three sessions a day. It has

interesting effects. Releases a certain " healing potential " within the cells.

Try it! (Be careful, no passing out allowed!)

skrev:

> The inverse of hyperbaric therapy: http://hypoxico.com/14.html

> They take the oxygen out of the atmosphere to make the body go into

> overdrive it seems. It's a new one on me. J.

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I have done this and it really clears the head, and it confused me, because you

are blowing out air and then holding your lack of breath and then when you can't

stand it, letting your lungs naturally suck in air. And I wondered how the

whole holding your breath thing could make you feel better. Now, it makes sense

to me.

Donna

Re: Hypoxia

There is a breathing excercise that does this trick very effectively. The

idea is to breath out to the very most extreme point of emptying your lungs

completely. Then " relax " with no air and feel the vacuum suction effect on your

organs. Wait till a suitable level of desperation for oxygen has been attained,

then, breath in fully. Repeat three to five times, three sessions a day. It has

interesting effects. Releases a certain " healing potential " within the cells.

Try it! (Be careful, no passing out allowed!)

skrev:

> The inverse of hyperbaric therapy: http://hypoxico.com/14.html

> They take the oxygen out of the atmosphere to make the body go into

> overdrive it seems. It's a new one on me. J.

OxyPLUS is an unmoderated e-ring dealing with oxidative therapies, and other

alternative self-help subjects.

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On 10 Nov 2003 at 2:35, JCaoue1030@... wrote:

My wife has suggested that because Stem Cells need to find sick or

damaged areas, that HBOT before and directly after could inhibit the

Stem Cells from finding the damaged area because the oxygen heals the

damaged cells. Thus, the Stem Cells have no target. Would a

Hypoxicator, which she has explained, does the opposite of HBOT by

shrinking the vessels and bringing the damaged areas to the surface,

so to speak, thus giving the Stem Cells a better target? Does this

make any sense?

Dear

Stem cells migrate in response to growth factors not damaged cells. Oxygen may

allow healing in which case new cells are not required. Hypoxia causes vessle

dilatation not shrinkage. Changing oxygen levels causes complex alterations at

tissue level - the Hypoxia Inducible Factor (HIF) protein system, for example,

which

is involved in new vessel growth and leucocyte programming. HIF 1 alpha

regulates

the expression of over 30 genes. In attempting to understand this we are at the

very

basis of life itself. For a review see the reference below.

Best wishes

Philip

Professor of Hyperbaric Medicine

University of Dundee

C. Oxygen and inflammation. Nature April 17th 2003 p 676.