Re: [MedicaidforHDOT] hbot toxicity

[Guest guest]

Dear Cap. ,

Thank you for your kind words. Since you spoke with Dr Harch recently, could

you ask him to post something?

May God Richly bless you and your wife

Re: [MedicaidforHDOT] hbot toxicity

> Dear :

>

> It was most helpful for you to write what you are doing with the protocols

> for your patients.

>

> It is so important to get and to keep and open and candid dialogue on the

> protocols for HBOT. Both on the national level and at the international

level.

>

> I have tried without success to find out what the military research has

been

> regarding the milder portable chambers. I was told last week that the

Navy

> has put in an order for 53 of the hyperlites madein the U.K.

>

> It would be ever so helpful if we could get the international hyperbaric

> community to exchange info on what their research is finding. Perhaps the

two

> associations will turn up some of the findings from the international as

well as

> the national community in all types of chambers. Meanwhile thanks

for

> all the valuable info you posted on the subject of toxicity or lack of it

with

> respect to your own experience. Manson

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Ed, where do you live? Sacramento? Maybe we could work a trade as I would

like to learn more about operating an HBOT chamber, maybe my daughter could do

some HBOT and I could relieve you some? :-)

Best wishes and much love, Ken

P.S. I was an electrical engineer and have an MBA so maybe can learn the

tricks of the trade. :-)

Ken Gullan

Institute for Research Integration (IRI)

San Diego, CA 92106-2424

IRI is a 501C(3) non-profit corporation established to help children with

developmental difficulties.

To contact me off-list use kengullan@... or call 619-222-1104

[MedicaidforHDOT] hbot toxicity

> >

> >

> > > This is to any and all hyperbaric facilities who treat brain injury at

> >1.75 ata or below. Can you document a single case of oxygen toxicity at

> >these pressures. Dr. Harch makes claims of oxygen toxicity. We have

> done

> >almost 9000 treatments since April 2003 without a single case. There

may

> >have been a possibility of an issue to oxygen sensitivity but I don't

> think

> >so. In the beginning when we were treating 7 days a week, stress and

> >exhaustion created some problems but after we went to 6 days with a more

> >relaxful atmosphere, it was no longer a problem.

> > >

> > > I would like to hear your comments. If you would prefer to

> comment to me

> >privately, you may do so at rhartsoe@...

> > >

> > > Of course, references will be appreciated.

> > >

> > > As you know, Dr. Harch cannot find the time to comment on any of these

> >list, even the the hbot professionals list. Oxygen toxicity can be a

> >serious issue and should not be used to scare people unless it can be

> >documented. If it can be documented at these low pressures we need to

> do so

> >and let the consumer know with proper advice on what to

> do. Protocols need

> >to be changed to once a day or whatever it takes. As I said, I have

> >never seen this problem. I know what to look for according to the

> training

> >and the text books, etc. So if there is something new, it needs to be

> >added to these references.

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > Hartsoe

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

How much Vitamin E do you give?

Rose

Re: [MedicaidforHDOT] hbot toxicity

> Dear friends, Dr Harch is talking about the fact that Hyperbaric Oxygen is

> an immune suppressant as well as an immune enhancement, Doing HBOT twice

> daily for certain people can at a certain number ( upper end) cause the

> patient to have a little free Radical activity, and therefore some people

> develop a cold, that is why you need to watch children., If towards the

end

> of the 40 they become lethargic or have a running nose, you need to take a

> couple of days off, then resume.

>

> Here is what I usually do, I give patients Sunday and weds off, and if

they

> have a time frame that they must return home or a limited amount of time.

We

> will do two on Saturday, then a full 24 hours off on Sunday, One on

Monday,

> Two on Tuesday and a full 24 hours off on Weds, One on Thursday, one on

> Friday, then two on Saturday and so on..... I arrange it to fit the needs

of

> the people because no two patients are alike as you well know, However in

> the last ten years I have never had even a hint of a problem. there again

we

> have them take a vitamin E after the last treatment of the day.

>

> I watch carefully, not to mistake this for a personality change.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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HDO-documentation/files/ and

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>

> Download your state EPSDT program

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>

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>

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[Guest guest]

Dr Underwood suggests according to the weight of the child, the RDA in the

Merck Manual. ( I do not have it in front of me) some where around 200 to

400 IU's daily.

Re: [MedicaidforHDOT] hbot toxicity

>

>

> > Dear friends, Dr Harch is talking about the fact that Hyperbaric Oxygen

is

> > an immune suppressant as well as an immune enhancement, Doing HBOT twice

> > daily for certain people can at a certain number ( upper end) cause the

> > patient to have a little free Radical activity, and therefore some

people

> > develop a cold, that is why you need to watch children., If towards the

> end

> > of the 40 they become lethargic or have a running nose, you need to take

a

> > couple of days off, then resume.

> >

> > Here is what I usually do, I give patients Sunday and weds off, and if

> they

> > have a time frame that they must return home or a limited amount of

time.

> We

> > will do two on Saturday, then a full 24 hours off on Sunday, One on

> Monday,

> > Two on Tuesday and a full 24 hours off on Weds, One on Thursday, one on

> > Friday, then two on Saturday and so on..... I arrange it to fit the

needs

> of

> > the people because no two patients are alike as you well know, However

in

> > the last ten years I have never had even a hint of a problem. there

again

> we

> > have them take a vitamin E after the last treatment of the day.

> >

> > I watch carefully, not to mistake this for a personality change.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > Join the International Hyperbaric Medical Association

> http://www.hyperbaricmedicalassociation.org/forms/Friends_of_IHMA_Join.pdf

> >

> > Unrestricted downloads of 50+ pdf files on HBOT efficacy

> medicaid/files/ ,

> HDO-documentation/files/ and

> http://www.drneubauerhbo.com/papers.htm

> >

> > Download your state EPSDT program

> http://www.hcfa.gov/medicaid/stateplan/Map.asp by doing a search on the

word

> " ameliorate " . State Medicaid websites

> http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/RelSites_Oth_States.asp . Medicaid waiver

> programs: http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html

> >

> > Find a hyperbaric clinic http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolist.htm

> >

> > HBOT can save billions of dollars and millions of heartaches. Subscribe

to

> by sending a blank email to

> mailto:medicaid-subscribe

> >

> > Unsubscribe? Click here

mailto:medicaid-unsubscribe

> .

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

, this is what our doc told us also - my son was about 25# and

we did the full 400. We split it and gave 200 with the a.m.

treatment and 200 with the p.m. We were also told that there is no

danger of " overdose " with vitamin E.

Lynn

> Dr Underwood suggests according to the weight of the child, the RDA

in the

> Merck Manual. ( I do not have it in front of me) some where around

200 to

> 400 IU's daily.

>

> Re: [MedicaidforHDOT] hbot toxicity

> >

> >

> > > Dear friends, Dr Harch is talking about the fact that

Hyperbaric Oxygen

> is

> > > an immune suppressant as well as an immune enhancement, Doing

HBOT twice

> > > daily for certain people can at a certain number ( upper end)

cause the

> > > patient to have a little free Radical activity, and therefore

some

> people

> > > develop a cold, that is why you need to watch children., If

towards the

> > end

> > > of the 40 they become lethargic or have a running nose, you

need to take

> a

> > > couple of days off, then resume.

> > >

> > > Here is what I usually do, I give patients Sunday and weds off,

and if

> > they

> > > have a time frame that they must return home or a limited

amount of

> time.

> > We

> > > will do two on Saturday, then a full 24 hours off on Sunday,

One on

> > Monday,

> > > Two on Tuesday and a full 24 hours off on Weds, One on

Thursday, one on

> > > Friday, then two on Saturday and so on..... I arrange it to fit

the

> needs

> > of

> > > the people because no two patients are alike as you well know,

However

> in

> > > the last ten years I have never had even a hint of a problem.

there

> again

> > we

> > > have them take a vitamin E after the last treatment of the day.

> > >

> > > I watch carefully, not to mistake this for a personality

change.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

>

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> > > Join the International Hyperbaric Medical Association

> >

http://www.hyperbaricmedicalassociation.org/forms/Friends_of_IHMA_Join

..pdf

> > >

> > > Unrestricted downloads of 50+ pdf files on HBOT efficacy

> > medicaid/files/ ,

> > HDO-documentation/files/ and

> > http://www.drneubauerhbo.com/papers.htm

> > >

> > > Download your state EPSDT program

> > http://www.hcfa.gov/medicaid/stateplan/Map.asp by doing a search

on the

> word

> > " ameliorate " . State Medicaid websites

> > http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/RelSites_Oth_States.asp . Medicaid

waiver

> > programs:

http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html

> > >

> > > Find a hyperbaric clinic http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolist.htm

> > >

> > > HBOT can save billions of dollars and millions of heartaches.

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> > by sending a blank email to

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> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

That sounds good. We encourage vitamins during the day, and multi minerals

at night, because minerals are better absorbed in the evening.

Re: [MedicaidforHDOT] hbot toxicity

> > >

> > >

> > > > Dear friends, Dr Harch is talking about the fact that

> Hyperbaric Oxygen

> > is

> > > > an immune suppressant as well as an immune enhancement, Doing

> HBOT twice

> > > > daily for certain people can at a certain number ( upper end)

> cause the

> > > > patient to have a little free Radical activity, and therefore

> some

> > people

> > > > develop a cold, that is why you need to watch children., If

> towards the

> > > end

> > > > of the 40 they become lethargic or have a running nose, you

> need to take

> > a

> > > > couple of days off, then resume.

> > > >

> > > > Here is what I usually do, I give patients Sunday and weds off,

> and if

> > > they

> > > > have a time frame that they must return home or a limited

> amount of

> > time.

> > > We

> > > > will do two on Saturday, then a full 24 hours off on Sunday,

> One on

> > > Monday,

> > > > Two on Tuesday and a full 24 hours off on Weds, One on

> Thursday, one on

> > > > Friday, then two on Saturday and so on..... I arrange it to fit

> the

> > needs

> > > of

> > > > the people because no two patients are alike as you well know,

> However

> > in

> > > > the last ten years I have never had even a hint of a problem.

> there

> > again

> > > we

> > > > have them take a vitamin E after the last treatment of the day.

> > > >

> > > > I watch carefully, not to mistake this for a personality

> change.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> >

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> _._.

> > > > Join the International Hyperbaric Medical Association

> > >

> http://www.hyperbaricmedicalassociation.org/forms/Friends_of_IHMA_Join

> .pdf

> > > >

> > > > Unrestricted downloads of 50+ pdf files on HBOT efficacy

> > > medicaid/files/ ,

> > > HDO-documentation/files/ and

> > > http://www.drneubauerhbo.com/papers.htm

> > > >

> > > > Download your state EPSDT program

> > > http://www.hcfa.gov/medicaid/stateplan/Map.asp by doing a search

> on the

> > word

> > > " ameliorate " . State Medicaid websites

> > > http://www.medi-cal.ca.gov/RelSites_Oth_States.asp . Medicaid

> waiver

> > > programs:

> http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/Villa/1029/medicaid.html

> > > >

> > > > Find a hyperbaric clinic http://www.netnet.net/mums/hbolist.htm

> > > >

> > > > HBOT can save billions of dollars and millions of heartaches.

> Subscribe

> > to

> > > by sending a blank email to

> > > mailto:medicaid-subscribe

> > > >

> > > > Unsubscribe? Click here

> > mailto:medicaid-unsubscribe

> > > .

> > > >

> > > >

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