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In a message dated 1/7/02 1:25:47 PM Pacific Standard Time, stephwilcher@... writes:

I also gained 30 pounds in 3 months and another 10 shortly after.

Try 40 pounds in six weeks! I was 135 pounds before, maybe a few pounds less. I haven't gained or lost a pound since that six-week period a year and a half ago, regardless of whether I eat very carefully or grab whatever comes my way. Also, I suspect I've become shorter; I don't think I really want to know, so I haven't measured. I did finally give in and buy comfortable, attractive clothes that fit now, rather than waiting for that magical day when "I get my old body back."

As for exercise -- even if you don't lose weight, you will have gained many other benefits, including the ability to better handle the pounds. I sometimes realize this is the equivalent of carrying a very heavily loaded backpack with me everywhere.

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, I know that it sounds shallow to worry over weight when we have

bigger things to worry about, but I agree 100%....I can deal with most all of

this but this awful weight, it's like weighing down my entire being. I have

gained 25 pounds since June, have outgrown my entire wardrobe...and heaven

forbid lol (I bought elastic waist pants!!!!!!) my daughter just said " oh

Mom " lol like that said it all. I don't even know if it is possible to lose

weight while on these meds. I know that whenever I do anything screwy with my

diet it shows up in my Albumin and my doc knows right away that I have been

dieting. And I don't care what people say they understand they don't..even my

husband bless his heart...I put a pair of his pants in my wardrobe by mistake

and when I found them I told him...I could probably wear them too! lol He

said " I will just have to draw the line there " hmmm I let him live but it was

a close call :( Like we can just say NO, I will not have another pound..thank

you very much! I don't know the answer but any tips I get that are

safe I will pass on to you.

Yours in shallowness, Peggy :)

This is a joke not meant to bend the religion rule:

Lord grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage

to change the things I can, and the wisdom to hide the bodies of those people

I had to kill because they were driving me crazy!!! :)

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Hi Debby, I was reading your post about gaining weight

with a heavy heart. I too put on 30 lbs while I was on

Pred and can't seem to lose it. I've tried so many

diets. Does anyone out there know of any diets

that " really work? " Before I was sick, I wasn't skinny,

but I wasn't overweight either. Gaining all of this

weight makes me feel so unattractive, and just plain

ugly. This is one thing that has really depressed me.

I know I should be happy just to be alive, but I'm

really depressed over this. Any help from you guys

would be appreciated. Take care, in LA AIH 99'

>

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Weight Watchers worked great for me. Lost consistently 2-5 pounds weakly.

Then I had a flair and LFT's went up again so did prednisone and so did

weight. So now I don't worry about it anymore. I too have been thin all my

life so an additional 30 lbs was very troublesome to me. I figure when the

finally get the prednisone down and keep it there I will start again with

Weight Watchers. Hepatologist said this was a very safe diet for me.

Hope all goes well with the new diet and have fun on your cruise. Don't

worry Delta Burke makes some very stylish suits. (Or so I have convinced

myself.)

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I know exacty what you're talking about. I also gained 30 pounds in 3

months and another 10 shortly after. I got very depressed for a long period

of time. To me, this was the end of the world. And it still is in a way.

I was only 125 pounds when I went on the meds, and I blew up instantly.

I've been on the meds for nearly 2 years. I hadn't seen an improvement for

a while, and then all of the sudden I lost 12 pounds. I really don't know

how I did it. I've been going to the gym at least 3 times a week and doing

3 miles on the treadmill and a super-fast walking pace and I do 500 crunches

right after. Maybe that's it, but I'm not sure. Or maybe my body is

starting to get used to it? I don't really know. My friends and I are

going to try weight watchers starting on Wednesday. I really don't know if

it will work for me or not, but it's worth a shot. I'm convinced diets

won't work because it's not technically fat that we've gained, but I'm

willing to try it for a little while. I have a cruise to go on in May, and

I'm a more than a little nervous about getting into a bathing suit. I have

horrible stretch marks to hide too. (I think that's because I gained it so

quickly). My doctor has now raised my Imuran by 25mg to see if that will

help bring me off the Prednisone. He really wants to get me off of it, so

that's good. My levels have been pretty normal and I'm at 5mg/day right now

with 125mg of Imuran. We will see what happens!! Please don't get too

depressed over the weight gain. It took me a while not to be really upset

about it, but my friends and family still love me the same and everyone

realizes that it's not our fault that we gained this weight. Just remember

that!! Hang in there!

Philadelphia, PA

>From: twr59@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: [ ] Digest Number 1982

>Date: Mon, 07 Jan 2002 21:03:09 +0000

>

>Hi Debby, I was reading your post about gaining weight

>with a heavy heart. I too put on 30 lbs while I was on

>Pred and can't seem to lose it. I've tried so many

>diets. Does anyone out there know of any diets

>that " really work? " Before I was sick, I wasn't skinny,

>but I wasn't overweight either. Gaining all of this

>weight makes me feel so unattractive, and just plain

>ugly. This is one thing that has really depressed me.

>I know I should be happy just to be alive, but I'm

>really depressed over this. Any help from you guys

>would be appreciated. Take care, in LA AIH 99'

> >

> >

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In a message dated 1/8/02 8:32:54 AM Pacific Standard Time, stephwilcher@... writes:

I thought that most of the weight that we gained was due to water weight.

I think you may be mistaken about its being water. Perhaps yours is, but I'm not sure that that is a typical pattern.

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In a message dated 1/8/02 10:19:14 AM Pacific Standard Time, stephwilcher@... writes:

Really? My doctor told me that most of me is water weight. I take water pills and everything, but I really don't think they do much good. Actually, if this were real fat from the prednisone, that would actually be better for me, because I would know I would be able to lose it by doing Weight Watchers. I just didn't see how Weight Watchers would make me lose water weight. Thanks for the info though!

Well, apparently you have water weight! Now that I think of it, I've taken diuretics for many years (pre-AIH) for hypertension, so that's probably why my focus is on the other weight gain. Being a typical, self-centered person, when I read, I go straight for the items that pertain to my problem and often overlook other aspects.

Like many people on Prednisone, I have hard, isolated, rigid fat pads in odd places; they developed during the first two months of treatment. Some of the more noticeable fat pads for me seem to be typical, according to what I read: just above the wrists, behind the collarbones, at the navel, across the buttocks, and at the very top of the arms. My doctor told me I would get the "buffalo hump" pad across the shoulder blades, but I haven't -- at least not much. Earlier, I had very hard, isolated pieces of fat beside my eyes and jaws. The facial fat pads (moon-face) have become smaller and changed to regular-feeling fat. And, earlier, I was convex at the waistline. My waistline has returned, although it's larger than before AIH. All this is no big deal, medically; it's to be expected. However, it feels very, very strange to me.

Of course, from my point of view, I wish I could trade the fat pads for the water weight!

I'm sorry for my blanket statement about water weight. I think it came from my talking to my doctor and reading a great deal about the fat pads and not seeing the water references. As they don't seem to apply to me, I guess I ignored or overlooked them. My apologies.

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Hi ,

I'm glad to hear that Weight Watchers worked so well for you. I wonder how

it works. I thought that most of the weight that we gained was due to water

weight. So how can weight watchers help with that? I am however excited to

start it now!! I hope that it will work for me. My lab results have been

very good lately and the doctor wants to continue lowering me. I'm hoping

that 5mg/day of Prednisone will be low enough for Weight Watchers to work.

Thanks, I will have fun no matter what on my cruise!! I will find a bathing

suit that will work for me!! Thanks for the info!!

>From: MKANTZLE@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: [ ] Digest Number 1982

>Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:19:38 EST

>

>,

>

>Weight Watchers worked great for me. Lost consistently 2-5 pounds weakly.

>Then I had a flair and LFT's went up again so did prednisone and so did

>weight. So now I don't worry about it anymore. I too have been thin all

>my

>life so an additional 30 lbs was very troublesome to me. I figure when the

>finally get the prednisone down and keep it there I will start again with

>Weight Watchers. Hepatologist said this was a very safe diet for me.

>

>Hope all goes well with the new diet and have fun on your cruise. Don't

>worry Delta Burke makes some very stylish suits. (Or so I have convinced

>myself.)

>

>

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Harper,

Really? My doctor told me that most of me is water weight. I take water

pills and everything, but I really don't think they do much good. Actually,

if this were real fat from the prednisone, that would actually be better for

me, because I would know I would be able to lose it by doing Weight

Watchers. I just didn't see how Weight Watchers would make me lose water

weight. Thanks for the info though!

>From: flatcat9@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: [ ] Digest Number 1982

>Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:09:31 EST

>

>In a message dated 1/8/02 8:32:54 AM Pacific Standard Time,

>stephwilcher@... writes:

>

>

> > I thought that most of the weight that we gained was due to water

> > weight.

>

>I think you may be mistaken about its being water. Perhaps yours is, but

>I'm

>not sure that that is a typical pattern.

>Harper

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I'm sure some of the weight is water however, when I stayed up all night long

because I couldn't sleep and ate all night long because I was so hungry, in

my case most of it is real weight.

Try the Weight Watchers. It really works.

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In a message dated 1/8/02 4:32:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, nneW5@... writes:

Don't you mean CHINS UP?

Seems since starting back on the high doses have a new chin...geeze....

nne

Uh-HUH! I try to think that the extra chin makes me look assertive. I'm not really twice the person I used to be, but I feel like it. Oh, well, the neighborhood I live in is noted for its resident eccentrics. Now I can look the part with ease.

Harper

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Hi Ann,

Yes, I have been on a cruise before. Right when I first started taking the

Prednisone. Why do you ask?

>From: " Ann Rita " <seafarer52@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Re: [ ] Digest Number 1982

>Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 16:42:53 -0500

>

>. Have you ever been on a cruise before?

>

> Re: [ ] Digest Number 1982

> >Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:19:38 EST

> >

> >,

> >

> >Weight Watchers worked great for me. Lost consistently 2-5 pounds

>weakly.

> >Then I had a flair and LFT's went up again so did prednisone and so did

> >weight. So now I don't worry about it anymore. I too have been thin all

> >my

> >life so an additional 30 lbs was very troublesome to me. I figure when

>the

> >finally get the prednisone down and keep it there I will start again with

> >Weight Watchers. Hepatologist said this was a very safe diet for me.

> >

> >Hope all goes well with the new diet and have fun on your cruise. Don't

> >worry Delta Burke makes some very stylish suits. (Or so I have convinced

> >myself.)

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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Don't you mean CHINS UP?

Seems since starting back on the high doses have a new chin...geeze....

nne

> I have seen mention of " fat pockets " due to prednisone, so it can't

be all

> water, perhaps it is a combination of things that add up to the

extra pounds.

>

> Water retention-drink lots of water and take water pills as

needed...I just

> hate taking a pill every day that I may be able to skip with a glass

of water

> by my side all the time. :)

>

> Increased appetite- as with anyone else try to make healthy choices in

> foods...I wonder if you threw some rice cakes down on all that water

if it

> would take care of both problems..lol kidding...find a snack food

that will

> satisfy you and not add too many additional calories.

>

> Decrease in physical activity- We are so darned tired much of the

time it is

> just a huge mental leap to think about going to the gym. Find a

friend that

> will walk with you, that is what I am trying..I have found that not

only does

> the friend keep me from backing out of the walk but also adds a nice

time to

> my day...I make an effort to not talk all the time about my illness

and try

> to just gab about whatever. The laughter and normal feeling of doing

> something in a positive way to tackle this thing really help.

>

> I suppose that we can only do as much as our illness allows but a good

> positive attitude will let you do WAY more than you thought you

could. Chin

> up folks. Peggy

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You are too funny Harper! Needed that laugh tonight!

debby

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In a message dated 1/8/02 4:32:04 PM Pacific Standard Time, nneW5@... writes:

Don't you mean CHINS UP? Seems since starting back on the high doses have a new chin...geeze.... nneUh-HUH! I try to think that the extra chin makes me look assertive. I'm not really twice the person I used to be, but I feel like it. Oh, well, the neighborhood I live in is noted for its resident eccentrics. Now I can look the part with ease. Harper

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My experience was that I did have salt retention on prednisone but in my

case I started needing the dieretics when I developed acities closer to bad

bad bad liver function. The fluid was everywhere but mostly my belly. I

looked 5 mo pregnant.

Patty - Miami

Re: [ ] Digest Number 1982

>Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:09:31 EST

>

>In a message dated 1/8/02 8:32:54 AM Pacific Standard Time,

>stephwilcher@... writes:

>

>

> > I thought that most of the weight that we gained was due to water

> > weight.

>

>I think you may be mistaken about its being water. Perhaps yours is, but

>I'm

>not sure that that is a typical pattern.

>Harper

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Harper,

Gosh, I didnt realize that the " fat " or whatever it is exactly were hard

deposits on your body parts. I dont think i noticed before if it had been

posted??? In what you read what was the % exactly for people to get this fat

pad and at what dosages did they say this usually happens? I dont remember

that info in Palmers book - but then maybe I need to read it again.

Thanks,

LC AIH (0701)

Re: [ ] Digest Number 1982

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stephwilcher@... writes:

Really? My doctor told me that most of me is water weight. I take water

pills and everything, but I really don't think they do much good. Actually,

if this were real fat from the prednisone, that would actually be better for

me, because I would know I would be able to lose it by doing Weight

Watchers. I just didn't see how Weight Watchers would make me lose water

weight. Thanks for the info though!

Well, apparently you have water weight! Now that I think of it, I've taken

diuretics for many years (pre-AIH) for hypertension, so that's probably why

my focus is on the other weight gain. Being a typical, self-centered

person, when I read, I go straight for the items that pertain to my problem

and often overlook other aspects.

Like many people on Prednisone, I have hard, isolated, rigid fat pads in odd

places; they developed during the first two months of treatment. Some of

the more noticeable fat pads for me seem to be typical, according to what I

read: just above the wrists, behind the collarbones, at the navel, across

the buttocks, and at the very top of the arms. My doctor told me I would

get the " buffalo hump " pad across the shoulder blades, but I haven't -- at

least not much. Earlier, I had very hard, isolated pieces of fat beside my

eyes and jaws. The facial fat pads (moon-face) have become smaller and

changed to regular-feeling fat. And, earlier, I was convex at the

waistline. My waistline has returned, although it's larger than before AIH.

All this is no big deal, medically; it's to be expected. However, it feels

very, very strange to me.

Of course, from my point of view, I wish I could trade the fat pads for the

water weight!

I'm sorry for my blanket statement about water weight. I think it came from

my talking to my doctor and reading a great deal about the fat pads and not

seeing the water references. As they don't seem to apply to me, I guess I

ignored or overlooked them. My apologies.

Harper

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I've been on a couple and they are really a great way to relax and have fun. It's the best way to take a vacation because everything is done for you except you have to wash and dress yourself LOL. Ann CT Re: [ ] Digest Number 1982> >Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2002 21:19:38 EST> >> >,> >> >Weight Watchers worked great for me. Lost consistently 2-5 pounds>weakly.> >Then I had a flair and LFT's went up again so did prednisone and so did> >weight. So now I don't worry about it anymore. I too have been thin all> >my> >life so an additional 30 lbs was very troublesome to me. I figure when>the> >finally get the prednisone down and keep it there I will start again with> >Weight Watchers. Hepatologist said this was a very safe diet for me.> >> >Hope all goes well with the new diet and have fun on your cruise. Don't> >worry Delta Burke makes some very stylish suits. (Or so I have convinced> >myself.)> >> >>>>>>_________________________________________________________________>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.>>>>

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In a message dated 1/9/02 9:51:35 AM Pacific Standard Time, stephwilcher@... writes:

I also am self-centered when I read the posts and tend to concentrate only on what pertains to me. I appreciate all the advice you've given to me.

, thanks -- I'm often afraid of sounding like a bossy, intrusive, know-it-all. Keep in mind that I have absolutely no medical background, and check for yourself anything that I say.

Sometimes I consider not sending any messages at all. Then I remember how I felt when I was first diagnosed and found this site. People immediately answered my first post. It was a huge help to have people patiently tell me the basic, simple things about liver disease -- and reassure me that getting a hairy face wasn't the end of the world.

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I also am self-centered when I read the posts and tend to concentrate only

on what pertains to me. I appreciate all the advice you've given to me.

I haven't really noticed that I have fat pads. I just seem to look really

bloated and uncomfortable. People describe it as they can tell that I'm

skinny but that I look really bloated. I do! I'm just puffy!! Hard to

explain, but I think you know what I mean.

Thanks again for all the info.

Philadelphia, PA

>From: flatcat9@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: [ ] Digest Number 1982

>Date: Tue, 8 Jan 2002 13:36:43 EST

>

>In a message dated 1/8/02 10:19:14 AM Pacific Standard Time,

>stephwilcher@... writes:

>

>

> > Really? My doctor told me that most of me is water weight. I take

>water

> > pills and everything, but I really don't think they do much good.

> > Actually,

> > if this were real fat from the prednisone, that would actually be better

> > for

> > me, because I would know I would be able to lose it by doing Weight

> > Watchers. I just didn't see how Weight Watchers would make me lose

>water

> > weight. Thanks for the info though!

> >

> >

> >

>

>Well, apparently you have water weight! Now that I think of it, I've taken

>diuretics for many years (pre-AIH) for hypertension, so that's probably why

>my focus is on the other weight gain. Being a typical, self-centered

>person,

>when I read, I go straight for the items that pertain to my problem and

>often

>overlook other aspects.

>

>Like many people on Prednisone, I have hard, isolated, rigid fat pads in

>odd

>places; they developed during the first two months of treatment. Some of

>the

>more noticeable fat pads for me seem to be typical, according to what I

>read:

> just above the wrists, behind the collarbones, at the navel, across the

>buttocks, and at the very top of the arms. My doctor told me I would get

>the

> " buffalo hump " pad across the shoulder blades, but I haven't -- at least

>not

>much. Earlier, I had very hard, isolated pieces of fat beside my eyes and

>jaws. The facial fat pads (moon-face) have become smaller and changed to

>regular-feeling fat. And, earlier, I was convex at the waistline. My

>waistline has returned, although it's larger than before AIH. All this

>is

>no big deal, medically; it's to be expected. However, it feels very, very

>strange to me.

>

>Of course, from my point of view, I wish I could trade the fat pads for the

>water weight!

>

>I'm sorry for my blanket statement about water weight. I think it came

>from

>my talking to my doctor and reading a great deal about the fat pads and not

>seeing the water references. As they don't seem to apply to me, I guess I

>ignored or overlooked them. My apologies.

>Harper

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Dear Harper,

Don't worry, you're not bossy. You're just stating what you think about

things. You've had this disease for a while and you've been through a lot

with it. I understand that almost everyone in here doesn't have much (if

any) medical training, but it helps to know everyone's views on different

issues about it. It's hard not to sound upset about something when the side

effects start to really get to you and you get completely frustrated with

doctors and others. I know what you're going through!

>From: flatcat9@...

>Reply-

>

>Subject: Re: [ ] Digest Number 1982

>Date: Wed, 9 Jan 2002 13:14:15 EST

>

>In a message dated 1/9/02 9:51:35 AM Pacific Standard Time,

>stephwilcher@... writes:

>

>

> > I also am self-centered when I read the posts and tend to concentrate

>only

> > on what pertains to me. I appreciate all the advice you've given to me.

> >

>

>, thanks -- I'm often afraid of sounding like a bossy, intrusive,

>know-it-all. Keep in mind that I have absolutely no medical background,

>and

>check for yourself anything that I say.

>

>Sometimes I consider not sending any messages at all. Then I remember how

>I

>felt when I was first diagnosed and found this site. People immediately

>answered my first post. It was a huge help to have people patiently tell

>me

>the basic, simple things about liver disease -- and reassure me that

>getting

>a hairy face wasn't the end of the world.

>Harper

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Harper,

You are not bossy or intrusive at all. Your information helps more than you know. Knowledge is the key to this disease and it is not always easy to come by. Thanks

Bethanne

flatcat9@... wrote: In a message dated 1/9/02 9:51:35 AM Pacific Standard Time, stephwilcher@... writes:

I also am self-centered when I read the posts and tend to concentrate only on what pertains to me. I appreciate all the advice you've given to me. , thanks -- I'm often afraid of sounding like a bossy, intrusive, know-it-all. Keep in mind that I have absolutely no medical background, and check for yourself anything that I say. Sometimes I consider not sending any messages at all. Then I remember how I felt when I was first diagnosed and found this site. People immediately answered my first post. It was a huge help to have people patiently tell me the basic, simple things about liver disease -- and reassure me that getting a hairy face wasn't the end of the world. Harper

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Hi Marcie,

> When she has oral sex with him she immediately gets a scratchy throat, her

> glands swell, and she gets sneezy. He does not seem to have any problems

> with his penis at all, except poor sexual function. Do you think he could

> have candida in the area he is passing to her mouth?

>

> Gross, I know...sorry to be so graphic, but I am sort of stumped. Of

> course, doctors can't ever find anything wrong with her- her list of

> symptoms are pure candida.

>

> Blushing...

> Marcie : )

If their symptoms improve at all with a few foods I recommend, which are

good for everyone regardless of their complaint, perhaps they'd be more

amenable to the rest of the candida protocols.

inulin

probiotic

coconut oil

Ambrotose AO

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Zoe

I have a question, if i put the cayenne powder in the

pot while water is boiling, will it reduce the helpful

nutrients of the cayenne? Can i do the same with ACV?

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7a.

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7b.

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some groups...BUT) From: Cryss

8a.

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use PALM OIL From: Stuck

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use PALM OIL From: Stuck

8c.

Re: [lists] Re: Don't

use PALM OIL From: collin huey

8d.

Re: [lists] Re: Don't

use PALM OIL From: Tseu

8e.

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1a.

Dr. Fife - a question about

pre-cancerous lesions Posted by:

" Cunniff " s.cunniff@...

s.cunniff

Tue May 29, 2007 7:05 am (PST)

Hi Dr. Fife,

I am in the process of reading The Coconut Oil Miracle

which I find fascinating. I had a couple of basel

cell lesions last year and was treated with a topical

solution which effectively burned them off. There as

a lot of scabbing and it took 6 weeks or so to heal.

Within the past week to ten days, I developed a new

one (which is frightening of course) and have started

putting coconut oil on it twice a day. It has gotten

a little wider which has me concerned. It was about

1/4 inch wide when it started and now is about 3/8 of

an inch wide. What is the proper treatment using

coconut oil and how long should it take to clear it

up? It is not sore at all, just a bit red.

Thanks so much!

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1a.

Re: VCO

From:

tess mamangun

2a.

Re: Palm oil

From:

tess mamangun

2b.

Re: Palm oil

From:

Bruce Fife

2c.

Re: Palm oil

From:

IL HO KIM

3.

Therapeutic-Grade Essential Oils

From:

royahewitt

4a.

Re: Soft drinks hazardous to your health

From:

Wilkins

4b.

Re: Soft drinks hazardous to your health

From:

collin huey

5a.

Re: Coconut milk as blood substitute

From:

luke bice

6a.

Re: Re[2]: {Disarmed} Re[2]: : [lists]

slic

From:

Virginia Leonard

6b.

Re[4]: {Disarmed} Re[2]: : [lists]

sliced f

From:

zoe w

7a.

Re: looking for a gel for our daughter

From:

KC

7b.

Re: looking for a gel for our daughter

From:

KC

8.

Re: [lists] RE: looking for a

gel for our

From:

Stuck

9.

Evidence highlights new fear over drinks additive

From:

Alobar

10a.

Bruce Fife

From:

Stuck

10b.

Re: Bruce Fife

From:

Cryss

11.

cayenne pills

From:

Stuck

12a.

Re: Re[2]: [lists] Re: No

weight loss

From:

Stuck

13.

Re: [lists] Re: Re: looking

for a gel for

From:

Stuck

14a.

Re: [lists] Re: No weight

loss

From:

Stuck

15a.

Don't use PALM OIL

From:

Elaine Gallant

15b.

Re: Don't use PALM OIL

From:

Tseu

16a.

Re: Your book publication in Korean version

From:

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1a.

Re: VCO

Posted by: " tess mamangun "

vivi_1vco@...

vivi_1vco

Mon May 28, 2007 1:27 am (PST)

Dear KC,

Yes we can arrange that shipment be sent directly to

you next time. yes the oils are already in PA, but

our distributor went to Ohio (??i guess to join the

Marathon.) He will be back in PA by Wednesday.

I will let him contact you as soon as he is back.

Regards,

Tess

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