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Hy. As known, my TSH readings were 101.11 out of a range of 0.34 to

4.82 uIU/ML, looks extremely high, then it went down to 62.05, still

high, next test will show the current level. What is the effect of

high TSH on the body? My thyroid gland seems to be a case of

Hashimoto's, so my pituitary was sending high amounts of TSH to

jumpstart a nonresponsive thyroid gland, so, what would the effects

of such high TSH be on the body, would it interfere or cause other

problems? On my next appointment, I will ask my doctor.

Any thoughts?

Masiste>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Hello-I have had levels as high as 590. High tsh just gives you

every single symptom on the list. The only other thing that I

experienced was an enlarged pituitary gland. It seems it was working

overtime to compensate for my thyroid not working. With an enlarged

pituitary I had a constant pain in my head. Not a headache but

pain. I also experienced extreme " puffy face " and neck. Everything

went back to normal once my levels were straightened out. I was

on .250 of synthroid for a month to get my levels right though. You

need to get your levels corrected. You are just going to feel really

tired, fatigued, cold ...like I said almost every symptom on the

list. Your tsh should not exceed 3. I still have trouble now, I

keep climbing, but only high as 5. Makes me wonder how I ever dealt

with 500!

Hope this helps,

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> Hy. As known, my TSH readings were 101.11 out of a range of 0.34

to

> 4.82 uIU/ML, looks extremely high, then it went down to 62.05,

still

> high, next test will show the current level. What is the effect of

> high TSH on the body? My thyroid gland seems to be a case of

> Hashimoto's, so my pituitary was sending high amounts of TSH to

> jumpstart a nonresponsive thyroid gland, so, what would the

effects

> of such high TSH be on the body, would it interfere or cause other

> problems? On my next appointment, I will ask my doctor.

> Any thoughts?

> Masiste>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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masiste79 wrote:

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> ... What is the effect of

> high TSH on the body?

The harm is indirect. Your very high TSH says that your T3 is very low.

It is the lack of T3 that interferes with every metabolic function and

can cause long term damage, as well as the immediate discomfort you are

experiencing. TSH is just a chemical signal that tells your thyroid to

release more T4, which with healthy conversion, produces more T3 (and

other things).

Chuck

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Hi,

After looking through several years of my old medical records,

whenever my TSH was within the normal range were the times that I

had many episodes of atrial fib(SVT). It seems that what is normal

range in the lab isn't what is normal for my body. My TSH in

November was 115, but I've had only two attacks of SVT since then as

opposed to daily attacks when I was on a higher dose of Synthroid. I

called my endocrinologist last friday morning to report that I am

still getting hives when I take the levothyroxine. Haven't heard a

word from her so I called and left a message for my family doc

today. That endocrinologist was a waste of time and money.

dawn

> >

> > Hy. As known, my TSH readings were 101.11 out of a range of

0.34

> to

> > 4.82 uIU/ML, looks extremely high, then it went down to 62.05,

> still

> > high, next test will show the current level. What is the effect

of

> > high TSH on the body? My thyroid gland seems to be a case of

> > Hashimoto's, so my pituitary was sending high amounts of TSH to

> > jumpstart a nonresponsive thyroid gland, so, what would the

> effects

> > of such high TSH be on the body, would it interfere or cause

other

> > problems? On my next appointment, I will ask my doctor.

> > Any thoughts?

> > Masiste>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

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Dawn,

You wrote:

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> After looking through several years of my old medical records,

> whenever my TSH was within the normal range were the times that I

> had many episodes of atrial fib(SVT). It seems that what is normal

> range in the lab isn't what is normal for my body. ...

There are other conditions that can cause atrial fibrillation and sinus

tachycardia besides hyperthyroidism. Some of these are aggravated by

hypothyroidism. You might ask your GP about seeing a cardiologist.

Chuck

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> There are other conditions that can cause atrial fibrillation and

sinus tachycardia besides hyperthyroidism. Some of these are

aggravated by hypothyroidism. You might ask your GP about seeing a

cardiologist.

~~Thanks for your reply, Chuck. I started what was documented in my

medical records as " palpitations " shortly after I started Synthroid.

I never had problems before that time. I have seen a cardiologist

twice. Had an echo and stress test. He wants me to get my thyroid

med straightened out before we go further. I want that too, but am

having a hard time working with my current endocrinologist.

I can't remember precisely what he(my cardiologist)thought was

causing my SVT, but somehow my hearts electrical activity ends up in

a loop going round and round in a certain area. He says that there

is something that he can do that doesn't involve burning a node or

requiring a pacemaker. That's what I'll do, if need be. But I also

want to get my thyroid on an even keel before I decide anything

along that route. I don't want anyone messing with my heart unless

I've exhausted all other theories. It's a risk that I'm too afraid

to take at this point. But when I'm in the midst of an attack, I

feel so badly that I'd do anything to feel better. Ironic isn't it?

dawn

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Dawn,

you wrote:

> .... I started what was documented in my

> medical records as " palpitations " shortly after I started Synthroid. ...

If that is the case, you may simply be one of those unlucky enough to

have the Synthroid cause oscillations. Some people temporarily become

hyperthyroid, sometimes with multiple episodes, when they first start on

the medication. This is part of the reason why they increase the dosage

so slowly. If you still had substantial thyroid function, then even a

modest dose could have caused this, long before you approached the

optimum. Another possibility is that your thyroid is still partly

functional but erratic. This can happen with Hashimoto's.

This is not intrinsic to Synthroid. If you used a generic or any other

brand name for synthetic T4, the results would be similar for matched

dosage-potency.

Chuck

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Yes that is true however if you already high it is not a good idea to

take more and there are many people who are already high. It is best to

test before supplementing copper.

Irene

At 03:35 AM 9/20/2007, you wrote:

If you supplement with Zinc you

are supposed to supplement with Copper.

Zinc is an antagonist to Copper. I had a hair test done and my zinc was

low

and copper normal. Yes copper can be dangerous but not enough is not good

either.

Steph

Subject: Re: Re: High TSH

> It is a little risky taking copper unless you know you need it.

There are

> a

> lot of people who are high in copper for various reasons (copper

water

> pipes, medications etc.)

> Irene

>

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Hi Tracey

My daughter, who is 21, had a blood test recently. The lab report had highlighted the TSH, 8.62, as high, free T4 20.4. When I questioned my GP he seemed unpurturbed and it was only by my contacting and pushing him that he agreed to another blood test but not for 6 months. He said that he wanted to see if there was a "trend".

Obviously yet another GP who doesn't appreciate the reason for doing thyroid function tests - let alone realising the impact such a denial of anything being wrong will have on your daughters health. When you think America , about 4 years ago, who used to use the same reference ranges we use, slashed the TSH range in half to 0.3 to 3.0 - and in Germany, they slashed it even more to 0.3 to 2.5 - and now they are recommending that this should be further slashed to 0.3 to 1.5 - and your daughter at 8.62 is WAY over the range.

I then asked him for a referral letter to a local Endocrinologist. This he did and I took my Daughter along to see him. We also took along a list of her symptoms. Most of her symptoms, if not all, appear on your symptom check list. When the endocrinologist looked at it he said that it was easy to get list of symptoms from the internet.!! I got the impression that we took all of her symptoms from the internet and listed them for him. I questioned him about the ranges and that they had changed since early 2000s. He said that it was a matter for discussion.

I would be tempted to ask this endocrinologist just what IS being discussed and to give you the reasons the reference ranges had been changed in your area. It may be that they have got a new 'kit' for testing blood, and that might make a difference. Before blood tests were manufactured, doctors diagnosed through symptoms, signs, temperature, cholesterol etc. What did he say about her TSH of 8.62My question is, are there any Endocrinologists who you know are more enlightened about the ranges in the London, Surrey, Sussex area? I live in Kent. All of these places are easily accessible for us. My Daughter is always tired, has menstrual problems, has had for many years, joint pain, muscle pain and lots more.

I have sent you a list of doctors who are more enlightened about the diagnosis and what the thyroid function tests mean. Would you be willing to go outside of your area, as you can now 'Choose and Book' the doctor you would like to see, wherever he lives in the UK.look forward to your advice. Many thanks.Vickyanne58No virus found in this incoming message.

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