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Oh yea, I know about her site, I just thought when you mentioned the metatype

theory that you meant that you had heard of it in the past and wanted to know if

it was the same woman. I only heard of her when I was pregnant and I had called

the PHP company to inquire about increasing my dose and they recommended I talk

to her because they are just the distributors and she is a doctor that buys from

them. Who knows, I wasn't pleased with her attitude with me when I was asking

questions on the phone. I felt she was getting frustrated with my calls since

she was giving " free " info on the phone. I am in Florida and she's in NY so I

couldn't go see her and she wasn't seeing any money from me. Her receptionist,

however, is very pleasant. Have a good night. -jessica

Kerry Ann Faithfull <kerry@...> wrote: She has web site -

http://www.elizabethdane.com/about.html - I know

nothing about her at all - I just googled her name and found this

website.

Re: B12

Are you me??? LOL! We are so similar, past, present, and probably

future. Where do you live? Due to brain fog, I already forgot what

blood type I am. I am not sure I will agree with her or anyone else who

says " you need meat " . I do recall her telling me when I was pregnant to

" eat lots of fish " and I was unsure of her when she said that too. Due

to the amount of bacteria and mercury, and not to mention the dangers of

farm raised fish, I found that to be an odd demand coming from a

" fertility specialist " to a pregnant woman. I don't know. Which

supplement does she have that is from sheep? I do not know about fish

vs. flax but I do know that a close friend of mine who has his doctrine

in Oriental Medicine, is an acupunturist and an herbologist is very fond

of Carlson's fish oils so I decided to go with that over the flax, don't

really know though. Good luck and stay in touch. Let me know where you

are from, I am curious. -

and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote: Hey

,

I talked to Dr Dane, and she said that " Life begets life " and that's

basically about it. I didn't really push the issue, to be

honest...because even though I am a vegan, for biblical reasons, I know

that the bible does give provisions for consuming animal products too.

And I know that probably animal glandulars are better than anything made

in a lab. But, I would love to never touch it, if you know what I

mean? One thing we did talk about was the blood type diet, because she

insisted that I needed meat...aghh! So I asked her if she thought that

the blood type diet was a joke, and she said that she thought it was

good. So, I am a A blood type and so meat is not advised for my blood

type. I too have hashimoto's, goiter, high TSH, and am really trying to

cleanse right now to see what that will do. I am on day 6 of a 10 day

fast with herbs, green food drink (Vitamineral Green, by Health Force

Nutritionals), bowel, liver, blood, cleansing from various healing

centers

(www.modernmanna.org, www.cedarbrookhome.org, etc), and raw veggie and

fruit juice. I do a sea water flush every other day (during the cleanse

only) as this is suppost to help with returning trace minerals back to

the system, and a bunch of water, cleansing tea, flax seed oil (4 tbs

daily). I rebound, walk a lot (sometimes up to 8 miles a day, but

mostly 4-6 miles), get lots of sunshine when I can, fresh air, I don't

drink, or smoke (but did in the past), I try to pray a lot, but I know

that I need to forgive people from my past. I have issues I know, that

I need to let go and love people. I just want my life and health back.

I graduated from West Point, so I was exposed to a ton of vaccines,

stress, poor diet, lifestyle, etc. So, I need a healing.

Over email, I talked with Dr. Dane's receptionist, and she said that

the ingredients are from new zealand sheep. So that is better than cow,

from what I understand. I'm curious, do you think that fish oils are

better than flax seed oil? She wanted me to take a bunch of other

supplements as well, but it was going to cost me too much, so now I am

wondering if I should just take the eco-thyroid and the other thyroid

stuff and rev it up, or what. Anyway, thanks for all of your advice!

Blessings!

Stanziale <massageme429@...> wrote:

Hi , yes I have hashimotos and I take 4 a day of the eco thyro

(dried freezed glandular tissue), B supplement, fish oils, 2 of Dane's

Rev it up (I used to take more until I increased my eco thryo now I take

less rev it up), chlorophyll, wheatgrass, coconut oil in my protein

shakes, yoga, acunpuncture, chiropractic adjustment for my neck, and

massage therapy. These last 2 weeks I am finaly starting to feel like

my pre pregnancy self again. I hope it lasts. Before my pregnancy I

only did the eco thyro, now I am doing all the other stuff. Did you

speak to Dr. Dane or her receptionist and what did she say about the eco

thyro when you stressed concern about animals, I am curious? -

and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote: Hey

,

Did you say that you had hashimoto thyroiditis? Also, how is Dr.

Dane's stuff working for you?

THanks!

Stanziale <massageme429@...> wrote:

I put Chloropyll in my water everyday 2x a day. It is an excellent

source of B12, along with many other vitamins and nutrients. I highly

recommend it. It can be picked up at any local health food store. :0)

-jessica

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: Gracia,

You wrote:

>

> I never heard of a vegetable source of B-12.

Yeast, soy, and wheat gluten. There are some other marginal sources for

which bacteria in the intestines can produce some B-12 as well.

Chuck

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FYI

I just met a man who has been life long vegetarian, wife is vegan and

children raised the same. His children are really troubled, one is in

prison. These are good people but their diets may not be working for them.

gracia

Are you me??? LOL! We are so similar, past, present, and probably future.

Where do you live? Due to brain fog, I already forgot what blood type I am.

I am not sure I will agree with her or anyone else who says " you need meat " .

I do recall her telling me when I was pregnant to " eat lots of fish " and I

was unsure of her when she said that too. Due to the amount of bacteria and

mercury, and not to mention the dangers of farm raised fish, I found that to

be an odd demand coming from a " fertility specialist " to a pregnant woman.

I don't know. Which supplement does she have that is from sheep? I do not

know about fish vs. flax but I do know that a close friend of mine who has

his doctrine in Oriental Medicine, is an acupunturist and an herbologist is

very fond of Carlson's fish oils so I decided to go with that over the flax,

don't really know though. Good luck and stay in touch. Let me know where

you are from, I am curious. -

and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote: Hey ,

I talked to Dr Dane, and she said that " Life begets life " and that's

basically about it. I didn't really push the issue, to be honest...because

even though I am a vegan,

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Are you implying that the childrens diets have led them to prison. I know an 82

yr. old woman, thyroid condition since 10 yrs. old, strict vegan since the age

of 40. Very healthy, has never even done community service! :0) Not sure

where you are going with that last message. Maybe the opposite, maybe they are

not good people, didn't you say you just met the man???

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

FYI

I just met a man who has been life long vegetarian, wife is vegan and

children raised the same. His children are really troubled, one is in

prison. These are good people but their diets may not be working for them.

gracia

Are you me??? LOL! We are so similar, past, present, and probably future.

Where do you live? Due to brain fog, I already forgot what blood type I am.

I am not sure I will agree with her or anyone else who says " you need meat " .

I do recall her telling me when I was pregnant to " eat lots of fish " and I

was unsure of her when she said that too. Due to the amount of bacteria and

mercury, and not to mention the dangers of farm raised fish, I found that to

be an odd demand coming from a " fertility specialist " to a pregnant woman.

I don't know. Which supplement does she have that is from sheep? I do not

know about fish vs. flax but I do know that a close friend of mine who has

his doctrine in Oriental Medicine, is an acupunturist and an herbologist is

very fond of Carlson's fish oils so I decided to go with that over the flax,

don't really know though. Good luck and stay in touch. Let me know where

you are from, I am curious. -

and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote: Hey ,

I talked to Dr Dane, and she said that " Life begets life " and that's

basically about it. I didn't really push the issue, to be honest...because

even though I am a vegan,

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Also......I have said many times and I will say it again. In my experiences,

it's not so much what you don't eat (meat) it's what you do eat. I have seen

plenty of vegans who are unhealthy due to their diet choices. I have a friend

who is vegetarian and always gets sick, and can never lose weght and is always

tired. She always eats bread, pasta and cheese. She doesn't need meat she just

needs a healthier balanced meal. Look at Dr. Null (www.garynull.com) that

man has been vegan forever, he's unbelievable. Anyway, I just thought your

" FYI " was a little strange.

Gracia <circe@...> wrote:

FYI

I just met a man who has been life long vegetarian, wife is vegan and

children raised the same. His children are really troubled, one is in

prison. These are good people but their diets may not be working for them.

gracia

Are you me??? LOL! We are so similar, past, present, and probably future.

Where do you live? Due to brain fog, I already forgot what blood type I am.

I am not sure I will agree with her or anyone else who says " you need meat " .

I do recall her telling me when I was pregnant to " eat lots of fish " and I

was unsure of her when she said that too. Due to the amount of bacteria and

mercury, and not to mention the dangers of farm raised fish, I found that to

be an odd demand coming from a " fertility specialist " to a pregnant woman.

I don't know. Which supplement does she have that is from sheep? I do not

know about fish vs. flax but I do know that a close friend of mine who has

his doctrine in Oriental Medicine, is an acupunturist and an herbologist is

very fond of Carlson's fish oils so I decided to go with that over the flax,

don't really know though. Good luck and stay in touch. Let me know where

you are from, I am curious. -

and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote: Hey ,

I talked to Dr Dane, and she said that " Life begets life " and that's

basically about it. I didn't really push the issue, to be honest...because

even though I am a vegan,

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Yes, that's the same one.

Blessings!

Kerry Ann Faithfull <kerry@...> wrote:

IS the Dr Dane referred to in your letters the Dane of the

Metatype theory?

Re: B12

Are you me??? LOL! We are so similar, past, present, and probably

future. Where do you live? Due to brain fog, I already forgot what

blood type I am. I am not sure I will agree with her or anyone else who

says " you need meat " . I do recall her telling me when I was pregnant to

" eat lots of fish " and I was unsure of her when she said that too. Due

to the amount of bacteria and mercury, and not to mention the dangers of

farm raised fish, I found that to be an odd demand coming from a

" fertility specialist " to a pregnant woman. I don't know. Which

supplement does she have that is from sheep? I do not know about fish

vs. flax but I do know that a close friend of mine who has his doctrine

in Oriental Medicine, is an acupunturist and an herbologist is very fond

of Carlson's fish oils so I decided to go with that over the flax, don't

really know though. Good luck and stay in touch. Let me know where you

are from, I am curious. -

and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote: Hey

,

I talked to Dr Dane, and she said that " Life begets life " and that's

basically about it. I didn't really push the issue, to be

honest...because even though I am a vegan, for biblical reasons, I know

that the bible does give provisions for consuming animal products too.

And I know that probably animal glandulars are better than anything made

in a lab. But, I would love to never touch it, if you know what I

mean? One thing we did talk about was the blood type diet, because she

insisted that I needed meat...aghh! So I asked her if she thought that

the blood type diet was a joke, and she said that she thought it was

good. So, I am a A blood type and so meat is not advised for my blood

type. I too have hashimoto's, goiter, high TSH, and am really trying to

cleanse right now to see what that will do. I am on day 6 of a 10 day

fast with herbs, green food drink (Vitamineral Green, by Health Force

Nutritionals), bowel, liver, blood, cleansing from various healing

centers

(www.modernmanna.org, www.cedarbrookhome.org, etc), and raw veggie and

fruit juice. I do a sea water flush every other day (during the cleanse

only) as this is suppost to help with returning trace minerals back to

the system, and a bunch of water, cleansing tea, flax seed oil (4 tbs

daily). I rebound, walk a lot (sometimes up to 8 miles a day, but

mostly 4-6 miles), get lots of sunshine when I can, fresh air, I don't

drink, or smoke (but did in the past), I try to pray a lot, but I know

that I need to forgive people from my past. I have issues I know, that

I need to let go and love people. I just want my life and health back.

I graduated from West Point, so I was exposed to a ton of vaccines,

stress, poor diet, lifestyle, etc. So, I need a healing.

Over email, I talked with Dr. Dane's receptionist, and she said that

the ingredients are from new zealand sheep. So that is better than cow,

from what I understand. I'm curious, do you think that fish oils are

better than flax seed oil? She wanted me to take a bunch of other

supplements as well, but it was going to cost me too much, so now I am

wondering if I should just take the eco-thyroid and the other thyroid

stuff and rev it up, or what. Anyway, thanks for all of your advice!

Blessings!

Stanziale <massageme429@...> wrote:

Hi , yes I have hashimotos and I take 4 a day of the eco thyro

(dried freezed glandular tissue), B supplement, fish oils, 2 of Dane's

Rev it up (I used to take more until I increased my eco thryo now I take

less rev it up), chlorophyll, wheatgrass, coconut oil in my protein

shakes, yoga, acunpuncture, chiropractic adjustment for my neck, and

massage therapy. These last 2 weeks I am finaly starting to feel like

my pre pregnancy self again. I hope it lasts. Before my pregnancy I

only did the eco thyro, now I am doing all the other stuff. Did you

speak to Dr. Dane or her receptionist and what did she say about the eco

thyro when you stressed concern about animals, I am curious? -

and Irwin <familyirwin@...> wrote: Hey

,

Did you say that you had hashimoto thyroiditis? Also, how is Dr.

Dane's stuff working for you?

THanks!

Stanziale <massageme429@...> wrote:

I put Chloropyll in my water everyday 2x a day. It is an excellent

source of B12, along with many other vitamins and nutrients. I highly

recommend it. It can be picked up at any local health food store. :0)

-jessica

Chuck B <gumboyaya@...> wrote: Gracia,

You wrote:

>

> I never heard of a vegetable source of B-12.

Yeast, soy, and wheat gluten. There are some other marginal sources for

which bacteria in the intestines can produce some B-12 as well.

Chuck

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>

> hi bee i found a b12 supplement liver capsules from

> " www.carlsonlabs.com " does this look good??? i get there codliver oil

> too it tests well but also i called to make sure nothing was soy or

> synthetic they said no :) thankyou

==>Lilly, you do not need to take B12 supplements if you eat any red

meat or eggs. You can get liver supplements instead of taking the B

Vitamin Complex however, but it shouldn't only contain B12.

Bee

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> > hi bee i found a b12 supplement liver capsules from

> > " www.carlsonlabs.com " does this look good??? i get there codliver oil

> > too it tests well but also i called to make sure nothing was soy or

> > synthetic they said no :) thankyou

>

> ==>Lilly, you do not need to take B12 supplements if you eat any red

> meat or eggs. You can get liver supplements instead of taking the B

> Vitamin Complex however, but it shouldn't only contain B12.

>

> Bee

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I give the shots in my arm, and the improvements were very good. I added

Shaklee's B Complex (I have tried countless brands over the years) and the

improvement was tremendous. How do you get over getting the shots? Well...what

was my alternative? I certainly wasn't going to give up the improvements, so I

sucked it up and gave myself the shots.

Torrey

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www.lifelyme.org<http://www.lifelyme.org/>

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Hi, All,

My remaining symptoms have been mild fatigue and some tinnitus. My

LLMD recommends that I do B12 injections twice weekly for about 6 months.

I am a complete coward with needles. I faint. This ain't gona be easy.

So, has anyone here done this? Did you notice big improvements? I

got one injection at the doc's office, and my thigh still hurts. But

I also have more energy, more enthusiasm, and less tinnitus. And I

slept through the night - a full 8 hours!

I guess I'll have to find a way to suck it up. :)

D.

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Hi ,

Yes, I've tried the B12 shots 3 months worth. It's actually very easy ... the

main thing is to relax and be quick. While sitting, extend your foot out a bit

and relax the thigh muscle .. if the muscle isn't relaxed it can hurt. Quickly

poke the needle in ... sometimes you won't even feel it. Go for the center

third of your thigh right in the middle. Your thigh should not hurt ..

especially after an hour or so.

It seemed to really help me the first time .. but it may have have just

coincided with a good cycle.

Best of luck!

Rich

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Subject: [ ] B12

Hi, All,

My remaining symptoms have been mild fatigue and some tinnitus. My

LLMD recommends that I do B12 injections twice weekly for about 6 months.

I am a complete coward with needles. I faint. This ain't gona be easy.

So, has anyone here done this? Did you notice big improvements? I

got one injection at the doc's office, and my thigh still hurts. But

I also have more energy, more enthusiasm, and less tinnitus. And I

slept through the night - a full 8 hours!

I guess I'll have to find a way to suck it up. :)

D.

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,

Hi..I have been doing B12 injections for years. I

notice a HUGE difference if I don't do them for a

while. I use the tuberculin syringes (tiny needle) and

I give them to myself in my upper arm. It stings a

bit. but to me it's worth it! I used to give myself

bicillin injections in my thighs and that was really

rough. Any shot in the thigh muscle will leave you

sore. Ask your LLMD about the tuberculin syringes and

if it's ok to do them in your arm. Good luck! :)

Kim

--- DeMarco <@...> wrote:

> Hi, All,

>

> My remaining symptoms have been mild fatigue and

> some tinnitus. My

> LLMD recommends that I do B12 injections twice

> weekly for about 6 months.

>

> I am a complete coward with needles. I faint. This

> ain't gona be easy.

>

> So, has anyone here done this? Did you notice big

> improvements? I

> got one injection at the doc's office, and my thigh

> still hurts. But

> I also have more energy, more enthusiasm, and less

> tinnitus. And I

> slept through the night - a full 8 hours!

>

> I guess I'll have to find a way to suck it up. :)

>

> D.

>

>

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Hi , I do B12 Methylcobalmin (that is important) as well as

Pyridoxine -B6 in my shots every other day, sometimes 2x/week. The B12

is a snap, but the B6 stings and has to go deep in a muscle.

I've gotten so many needles in my life (except a spinal tap!), that I

don't even notice them. Two years ago, someone left an abandoned kitten

under our porch, and when I tried to get her, she was scared and bit me.

So I had to go to the hospital for All the rabies shots and then back

every week for a month for more shots. That didn't phase me at all. Now

our wonderful GracieBelle is 2 and we have 3 abandoned cats and 3

abandoned dogs!

Good luck with the needles. There are two ways: Either test the needle

on your skin to see if there is a nerve ending there (you'll feel

something if there is), or find a place where you feel nothing, and you

won't feel the needle go in.

It is really no sweat. In fact, night sweats and Lyme muscle aches are

much worse than needles.

All the Best, Muriel

[ ] B12

Hi, All,

My remaining symptoms have been mild fatigue and some tinnitus. My

LLMD recommends that I do B12 injections twice weekly for about 6

months.

I am a complete coward with needles. I faint. This ain't gona be easy.

So, has anyone here done this? Did you notice big improvements? I

got one injection at the doc's office, and my thigh still hurts. But

I also have more energy, more enthusiasm, and less tinnitus. And I

slept through the night - a full 8 hours!

I guess I'll have to find a way to suck it up. :)

D.

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Please let me know if it works - tinnitus and fatigue are 2 of my remaining

symptoms....

Ann

PS Shots aren't as bad after you do them awhile.... ;)

-- [ ] B12

Hi, All,

My remaining symptoms have been mild fatigue and some tinnitus. My

LLMD recommends that I do B12 injections twice weekly for about 6 months.

I am a complete coward with needles. I faint. This ain't gona be easy.

So, has anyone here done this? Did you notice big improvements? I

got one injection at the doc's office, and my thigh still hurts. But

I also have more energy, more enthusiasm, and less tinnitus. And I

slept through the night - a full 8 hours!

I guess I'll have to find a way to suck it up. :)

D.

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Thanks, Everyone!

I'll call the pharmacy on Tuesday and ask them to go ahead and

compound the stuff for me. It's going to come in pre-filled syringes,

kept frozen until 5 minutes before use. My neighbor, an RN, has

offered to stick me if I chicken out. Hopefully I won't.

Sheeshe - I can't even prick my own finger. I'm such a wuse.

D.

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My B12 shots helped with my fatigue for sure! I attribute improvement

in my tinnitus to the correct antibiotic at the correct dose. Changes

in my tinnitus seem to herald a herx or bacteria load. But, it may be

the B12....I will pay close attention to that. My headaches went away

with antibiotic eye drops. It took a couple of days at first but now

when I start to get a headache, I use my eyedrops and it stops.

Liz

>

> ,

> Please let me know if it works - tinnitus and fatigue are 2 of my

remaining

> symptoms....

> Ann

> PS Shots aren't as bad after you do them awhile.... ;)

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[ ] B12

Hi, All,

My remaining symptoms have been mild fatigue and some tinnitus. My

LLMD recommends that I do B12 injections twice weekly for about 6 months.

I am a complete coward with needles. I faint. This ain't gona be easy.

So, has anyone here done this? Did you notice big improvements? I

got one injection at the doc's office, and my thigh still hurts. But

I also have more energy, more enthusiasm, and less tinnitus. And I

slept through the night - a full 8 hours!

I guess I'll have to find a way to suck it up. :)

D.

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Hi ,

I also did the B-12 injections for quite awhile. I got the pre-filled syringes

from a compounding pharmacy too. A nurse at my doc's office showed me how to

administer the shots myself. As Kim mentioned, the needles are incredibly fine,

nothing like the needles used to take blood work.

I was supposed to switch off areas, thighs, upper arms & sides. I will say

that inserting the needle in my upper arms and thighs was no biggie but it was

harder (more sensitive) to inject my sides so I just avoided that area.

Sometimes it pinches a little while injecting the serum.

Also, if you see a pink area close to the injection site, don't be alarmed, it

just means that some of the B-12 stayed close to the surface of the skin & it

will fade. Oh and don't forget to bend or break the needles when you dispose of

them.

Right now I am off of the B-12 injections to see how I do w/out them (all the

Rx's & supplements get costly so we try to see what things I can cut back if I

reintroduced something new), but I definitely think they help.

Good luck & don't be afraid to ask your neighbor for help if you need it!

Jeannie

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Thanks, Everyone!

I'll call the pharmacy on Tuesday and ask them to go ahead and

compound the stuff for me. It's going to come in pre-filled syringes,

kept frozen until 5 minutes before use. My neighbor, an RN, has

offered to stick me if I chicken out. Hopefully I won't.

Sheeshe - I can't even prick my own finger. I'm such a wuse.

D.

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B12 has made SUCH a diff in my life also - Thank God for B12

kim <meme21998@...> wrote: ,

Hi..I have been doing B12 injections for years. I

notice a HUGE difference if I don't do them for a

while. I use the tuberculin syringes (tiny needle) and

I give them to myself in my upper arm. It stings a

bit. but to me it's worth it! I used to give myself

bicillin injections in my thighs and that was really

rough. Any shot in the thigh muscle will leave you

sore. Ask your LLMD about the tuberculin syringes and

if it's ok to do them in your arm. Good luck! :)

Kim

--- DeMarco <@...> wrote:

> Hi, All,

>

> My remaining symptoms have been mild fatigue and

> some tinnitus. My

> LLMD recommends that I do B12 injections twice

> weekly for about 6 months.

>

> I am a complete coward with needles. I faint. This

> ain't gona be easy.

>

> So, has anyone here done this? Did you notice big

> improvements? I

> got one injection at the doc's office, and my thigh

> still hurts. But

> I also have more energy, more enthusiasm, and less

> tinnitus. And I

> slept through the night - a full 8 hours!

>

> I guess I'll have to find a way to suck it up. :)

>

> D.

>

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Hi Ann,

Just curious, do you have amalgams? I feel the tinnitus is more

connected to mercury than Lyme, in my case. But the B12 seemed to

make a difference too. :)

D.

" Ann Prow " <aprow@...> wrote:

>

> ,

> Please let me know if it works - tinnitus and fatigue are 2 of my

remaining

> symptoms....

> Ann

> PS Shots aren't as bad after you do them awhile.... ;)

>

> -- [ ] B12

>

> Hi, All,

>

> My remaining symptoms have been mild fatigue and some tinnitus. My

> LLMD recommends that I do B12 injections twice weekly for about 6

months.

>

> I am a complete coward with needles. I faint. This ain't gona be easy.

>

> So, has anyone here done this? Did you notice big improvements? I

> got one injection at the doc's office, and my thigh still hurts. But

> I also have more energy, more enthusiasm, and less tinnitus. And I

> slept through the night - a full 8 hours!

>

> I guess I'll have to find a way to suck it up. :)

>

> D.

>

>

>

>

>

>

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hi, nancy,

there are different kinds of b12 injections, using different amounts and

requiring different injection sites.

for about past 2 years, i was using compounded methylB12 injections 2-4

times a week, only 0.15ml to 0.3ml. used a small insulin syringe and

injected subcutaneous in folds of skin near each hip area. pretty easy to

do.

4 years ago, i had a different b12, not compounded, that was 3.0ml--a lot of

fluid and required a big needle and needed to be injected into outer thigh

muscle--that was not fun. the subcu is much easier.

also, i recently changed from injections to sublingual and have found that

despite lots of comment about injections being much better, the sublingual

is just as effective for me--plus, it's otc, cheaper, and NO needles. so

consider that option too.

blessings on your journey,

kendra

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I've taken B12 shots (plus B6-Pyridoxine) for several years and they

can't get to the anaerobic bacteria in your jawbone. Just save what

money you can (like me!) and have any amalgams/root canals/other

problems fixed when you can.

However, the B12 shots are highly beneficial. Must be Methylcobalmin.

All the Best, Muriel

Kendel

Re: [ ] B12

Yes, I do have amalgams but do not have the $$ to have them removed...

and I hate the dentist more than shots!!! ;)

Both my husband and I will be trying the B12 - hope it helps.

Thx,

Ann

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Kendra,

Is there a brand of sublingual B12 that you can recommend?

Thanks!

D.

" kendra " <kendraz@...> wrote:

>

> hi, nancy,

> there are different kinds of b12 injections, using different amounts and

> requiring different injection sites.

>

> for about past 2 years, i was using compounded methylB12 injections 2-4

> times a week, only 0.15ml to 0.3ml. used a small insulin syringe and

> injected subcutaneous in folds of skin near each hip area. pretty

easy to

> do.

>

> 4 years ago, i had a different b12, not compounded, that was

3.0ml--a lot of

> fluid and required a big needle and needed to be injected into outer

thigh

> muscle--that was not fun. the subcu is much easier.

>

> also, i recently changed from injections to sublingual and have

found that

> despite lots of comment about injections being much better, the

sublingual

> is just as effective for me--plus, it's otc, cheaper, and NO needles. so

> consider that option too.

>

> blessings on your journey,

> kendra

>

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Can you tell me where you get the sublingual B12 OTC, and also...does anyone

know if it can be just as beneficial to take a high potency B complex vitamin?

KATH

DeMarco <@...> wrote: Kendra,

Is there a brand of sublingual B12 that you can recommend?

Thanks!

D.

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There re many web sources, such as

http://www.sublingual-b-12.org/buy-sublingual-b-12.html. Since Kendra

has used sublingual methyl-B12 with success, I thought I'd try to get

the brand she used. :)

A high potency B-complex vitamin supplement will probably be of

benefit, but if you have any issues absorbing or metabolizing B12, you

would need methylcobalamin as well, either sublingual or prescription

injectable.

D.

KATHLEEN FARBER <mrskfarber@...> wrote:

>

> Can you tell me where you get the sublingual B12 OTC, and

also...does anyone know if it can be just as beneficial to take a high

potency B complex vitamin? KATH

>

> DeMarco <@...> wrote: Kendra,

>

> Is there a brand of sublingual B12 that you can recommend?

>

> Thanks!

>

> D.

>

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> I also noticed on my blood work that my B12 was at 1071 ... it's that

way too high?

==>Hi Maddy. No, that isn't too high. Above 1,300 is getting too high.

Bee

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There are some out there saying the use of b12 methylates mercury and that it

is bad, Huggins I think. B12 is another supplement I use regularly. I cannot

seem to find anything that Mr Cutler has said about that. Does anyone know of

this. thanks... alan

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