Re: Feeling Lightheaded

[Guest guest]

Don't do shots this big every 2 weeks your feeling this way is called a steroid

high guys that do Steroids for bodybuilding take high dose's and feel like this.

They get addicted to this feeling and it's not good.

Men stopped doing shots every 2 weeks yrs. ago it drives up your Estradiol can

make your blood to thick and it puts you on a roller coaster ride up after the

shot only to fall dam low by the next one. We feel bad with levels fall to low.

One should have there Dr. show them how to do there own shots and do 100 mgs a

week to start with 250 IU's of HCG the 2 days each just before your next shot.

Doing this keeps you leveled and keeps your testis working the best they can.

Going on TRT shuts down your testis from working the message from your brain of

LH and FSH slows way down on TRT. HCG acts like LH and FSH.

In the AACE Guidelines on page 11 it states to do shots every 7 to 10 days.

http://www.aace.com/pub/pdf/guidelines/hypogonadism.pdf

Go to Dr. 's site and Read: TRT A Recipe for Success and his HCG update he

puts this out there free for you and your Dr. Print it out and give it to your

Dr. he is not up on the newer ways of TRT.

www.allthingsmale.com

Here is a good link about Testosterone and Estradiol in this it states to get

your Total and Free T levels up into the upper 1/3 of your labs range for a

young man. And to keep your Estradiol levels down to about 20 pg/ml doing this

your going to feel your best.

http://www.griffinmedical.com/male_hormone_modulation_therapy.html

I do my shots using a small needle 27g 1ml. x 1/2 " lg. shooting into my thigh.

Some men eat up the T as fast as they do them and need to do this shots 2x's a

week.

http://spotinjections.com/index3.htm

Don't let your Dr. keep giving you shot every 2 weeks it's a dam big shot and

most of it will convert into Estradiol high levels of this will kill your sex

life, give you anxiety, Sore and hard nipples and make you sweat all the time.

Note: Some Dr.'s give a 200 mg shot for the first one to jump start you so your

not in trouble yet just don't do anymore big shots like this every 2 weeks.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: mikerizzo2007 <mikerizzo2007@...>

> Subject: Feeling Lightheaded

>

> Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 9:04 PM

> Hi,  I am currently taking 200mg

> shots of cypo every two weeks.  I just had my second

> shot yesterday and today I feel lightheaded.  Not to

> bad but just a tad.  Should I worry or is this

> normal?  Thanks

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

When taking shots every 2 weeks we are peaking at 1800 2 days after wards then

by day 7 you are at 800-900 then by day 13 you are down to 200-300. As you can

see there is a huge rollercoaster ride in testoterone, but also in estrodial as

well. Simple solution would be to take your shots split up turning the week

every m,th to keep hormone levels more even so there will not be huge swings.

This can play havoc with a mens mental and emotional status. Going from

1800-300 is a huge swing and is very dangerous practice IMO. Feel free to PM me

if you are in the north eastern usa. You also need to have other hormones look

at as well such as adrenal, thyroid and estrodial to be properly tuned up.

Depending on your age you may not even need TRT and something was simple over

looked. Guys 16 years old SHOULD NOT BE ON TRT unless they are primary through

endocronology testing. OR may be they had a late start in puberty and few shots

are needed to get them jumpstarted.

>

> Hi, I am currently taking 200mg shots of cypo every two weeks. I just had my

second shot yesterday and today I feel lightheaded. Not to bad but just a tad.

Should I worry or is this normal? Thanks

>

[Guest guest]

Hard we don't have PM's here they can send you an Email.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: hardasnails1973 <hardasnails1973@...>

> Subject: Re: Feeling Lightheaded

>

> Date: Thursday, December 10, 2009, 11:01 AM

> When taking shots every 2 weeks we

> are peaking at 1800 2 days after wards then by day 7 you are

> at 800-900 then by day 13 you are down to 200-300. As you

> can see there is a huge rollercoaster ride in testoterone,

> but also in estrodial as well.  Simple solution would

> be to take your shots split up turning the week every m,th

> to keep hormone levels more even so there will not be huge

> swings.  This can play havoc with a mens mental and

> emotional status.  Going from 1800-300 is a huge swing

> and is very dangerous practice IMO. Feel free to PM me if

> you are in the north eastern usa. You also need to have

> other hormones look at as well such as adrenal, thyroid and

> estrodial to be properly tuned up.

> Depending on your age you may not even need TRT and

> something was simple over looked.   Guys 16

> years old SHOULD NOT BE ON TRT unless they are primary

> through endocronology testing.  OR may be they had a

> late start in puberty and few shots are needed to get them

> jumpstarted.

>

>

> >

> > Hi,  I am currently taking 200mg shots of cypo

> every two weeks.  I just had my second shot yesterday

> and today I feel lightheaded.  Not to bad but just a

> tad.  Should I worry or is this normal?  Thanks

> >

>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

Pardon me but previuosly I thought cypionate was posted as the better choice.

Are you certain of this?

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Feeling Lightheaded

If this is Testosterone Cyponate then you better change it.. Use

Testosterone Undeconate injectionable. The ester is better and longer

lasting with better results. Its Idea for guys like us (Hypogonadal).

[Guest guest]

On Thu, 10 Dec 2009 08:54:51 -0800, you wrote:

>If this is Testosterone Cyponate then you better change it.. Use

>Testosterone Undeconate injectionable. The ester is better and longer

>lasting with better results. Its Idea for guys like us (Hypogonadal).

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I use Depo Testosterone cypionate: Chemical formula C27H40O3 never had a problem

I have used this off and on for over 27 yrs.

Testosterone Undeconate injectionable brand name Nebido as far as I know is not

sold in the USA. So I don't see the point in talking about it. When it first

came out in the UK men were give the shot that only lasted at best 2 weeks then

there levels fell. Dr.'s did not understand this and left the men to suffer

until the next shot. Today they know to start on the shot and to do the next

one in 2 weeks and to do this until the shot will last 4 months. Still last I

heard this shot dose not last that long. Some men doing the shot to them self's

are doing a lower dose every week.

In this link that is for women wanting to become men are the types of T shots

out there in the world.

Dr. does not like the idea of doing Nebido in big shots what if your blood

gets to thick.

http://www.ftmguide.org/ttypes.html#cypionate

Co-Moderator

Phil

>

> >If this is Testosterone Cyponate then you better change

> it.. Use

> >Testosterone Undeconate injectionable.  The ester

> is better and longer

> >lasting with better results.  Its Idea for guys

> like us (Hypogonadal).

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Thanks for all the replies everyone. I will go to weekly shots once I start

self injecting. It makes the most sense. As for the lightheaded feeling I got

I assume its from the high amount of testosterone. I feel fine now.

> >

> > >If this is Testosterone Cyponate then you better change

> > it.. Use

> > >Testosterone Undeconate injectionable.  The ester

> > is better and longer

> > >lasting with better results.  Its Idea for guys

> > like us (Hypogonadal).

> > >

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Yes a high dose can make you feel this way.

Co-Moderator

Phil

> From: mikerizzo2007 <mikerizzo2007@...>

> Subject: Re: Feeling Lightheaded

>

> Date: Friday, December 11, 2009, 5:06 PM

> Thanks for all the replies

> everyone.  I will go to weekly shots once I start self

> injecting.  It makes the most sense.  As for the

> lightheaded feeling I got I assume its from the high amount

> of testosterone.  I feel fine now.   

>

>

> > >

> > > >If this is Testosterone Cyponate then you

> better change

> > > it.. Use

> > > >Testosterone Undeconate injectionable.  The

> ester

> > > is better and longer

> > > >lasting with better results.  Its Idea for

> guys

> > > like us (Hypogonadal).

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >[Non-text portions of this message have been

> removed]

> > >

> > >

> > > DOI: 10.1530/eje.0.1400414

> > > European Journal of Endocrinology, Vol 140, Issue

> 5,

> > > 414-419

> > > Copyright © 1999 by European Society of

> Endocrinology

> > >

> > > Intramuscular injection of testosterone

> undecanoate for the

> > > treatment

> > > of male hypogonadism: phase I studies

> > > HM Behre, K Abshagen, M Oettel, D Hubler, and E

> Nieschlag

> > >

> > > Institute of Reproductive Medicine of the

> University,

> > > Domagkstrasse

> > > 11, D-48129 Munster, Germany.

> > >

> > > OBJECTIVE: In the search for long-acting

> testosterone

> > > preparations

> > > suited for substitution therapy of hypogonadal

> men,

> > > testosterone

> > > undecanoate (TU) dissolved in either tea seed oil

> or castor

> > > oil was

> > > investigated. DESIGN: In study I, 1000 mg TU in

> tea seed

> > > oil (125

> > > mg/ml) were injected in equal parts into the

> gluteal

> > > muscles of seven

> > > hypogonadal men. In study II, 1000 mg TU in

> castor oil (250

> > > mg/ml)

> > > were injected into one gluteal muscle of 14

> patients.

> > > RESULTS: In

> > > comparison with published data on testosterone

> enanthate,

> > > most widely

> > > used for i.m. injections, the kinetic profiles of

> both TU

> > > preparations

> > > showed extended half-lives and serum levels not

> exceeding

> > > the upper

> > > limit of normal. The castor oil preparation had a

> longer

> > > half-life

> > > than TU in tea seed oil (33.9+/-4.9 vs 20.9+/-6.0

> days

> > > (mean pm

> > > S.E.M.)). CONCLUSION: The longer half-life and

> the smaller

> > > injection

> > > volume make TU in castor oil a strong candidate

> for

> > > further

> > > applications in substitution therapy and in

> trials for

> > > male

> > > contraception.

> > >

> > > http://www.mesomorphosis.com/steroid-profiles/andriol.htm

> > >

> > >  Andriol, is a unique version of

> testosterone undecanoate

> > > developed by

> > > Organon. This version of testosterone is based in

> oil and

> > > is sealed in

> > > a capsule to be taken orally. According to the

> > > manufacturer, this

> > > method bypasses the liver and enters the body as

> a fat

> > > through the

> > > lymphatic system. In theory this seems quite

> interesting,

> > > however,

> > > athletes find Organon's claims don't hold up

> well. In doses

> > > of less

> > > than 240mg per day effects are generally

> non-existent. With

> > > higher

> > > doses, effects are small at best. This leads one

> to think

> > > most of the

> > > steroid is not making it to circulation.

> Generally, steroid

> > > users

> > > experienced with any strong anabolics will be

> disappointed

> > > with

> > > Andriol's results. Combined with other anabolics

> it may

> > > lend some

> > > effectiveness but should be questioned.

> > >

> > > Testosterone undecanoate is the chemical name of

> active

> > > ingredient in

> > > Andriol. Andriol is a registered trademark of

> Organon

> > > Corporation in

> > > the United States and/or other countries.

> > >

> > >

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