vitamin A

[Guest guest]

I was reading about Vitamin A in www.medscape.com.

It says retinol, although can accumulate and become toxic, is less aggravating

to the body to absorb. Beta-carotene, although may turn a body orangey but

is not toxic, is not the better type of Vitamin A to use. It may aggravate a

body

who has diabetes. I suppose I would be serving you better to give you the

article.

I went to the website and searched; RDA vitamins and got 5 pages of articles and

only some of what I wanted to read. It mentions too that research showed

Vitamin E-alpha toper....was not as beneficial as a food source for Vitamin E-

gamma .......... I find that interesting. Well, I am sure I have everyone's

sympathy when I say I would prefer food held all of the vitamins and minerals I

needed. That's why I could not understand why the government would allow

irradiation....which preserves the outside of the food while allowing vitamins

to

deteriorate right out of the food while it aged. Who wants food without

vitamins?

Alright,,,,I eat lots of carbos without health but WHEN I DO EAT I want food.

[Guest guest]

Jan the brand I use is Carlson Vitamin A 10,000 IU from fish oil. I

got it from the Vitamin Shoppe here in my city. It does have

safflower oil but no soy as far as I know. The bottle says free from

milk, wheat, corn, yeast, sugar, presevatives and salt. Now if this

has soy I will be shocked because it doesnt state that it contains

any.

The site is www.vitaminshoppe.com

Blessings,

Carol

>

> Hi group, I am having a terrible time trying to find Vitamin A

10,000 IU that does not contain soybean oil. Anyone have a internet

source? Jan

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Acutally Jan here is the link

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=CL-1432

This page says it contains safflower or soybean...my bottle says

safflower. I actually was at the store and read every bottle there

before buying one. You may have to call them to see what a bottle says

in hopes they can do that.

Good luck!

>

> Hi group, I am having a terrible time trying to find Vitamin A

10,000 IU that does not contain soybean oil. Anyone have a internet

source? Jan

> __________________________________________________

>

[Guest guest]

Jan wrote:

>

> Hi group, I am having a terrible time trying to find Vitamin A

10,000 IU that does not contain soybean oil. Anyone have a internet

source?

==>I believe NOW has one that doesn't contain soy but the stores don't

necessarily stock it; ask them to call the company to find out which

one to order. My aunt carries NOW brand, and she said even her catalog

doesn't state whether some products contain soy or not, and so she

doesn't know until it arrives. Natural Factors carries Halibut Liver

Oil capsules that contain vitamin A + D, which is what I buy here in

Calgary, Alberta, Canada. Your health store can probably order it in

as well.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Carol wrote:

>

> Jan the brand I use is Carlson Vitamin A 10,000 IU from fish oil. I

> got it from the Vitamin Shoppe here in my city. It does have

> safflower oil but no soy as far as I know. The bottle says free from

milk, wheat, corn, yeast, sugar, presevatives and salt. Now if this has

soy I will be shocked because it doesnt state that it contains any. The

site is www.vitaminshoppe.com

==>Carol, if the source is fish oil it can still contain soy. NOW has

a brand which is from Fish Oil but it still contains soy as well. I

suggest you contact the Vitamin Shoppe and get them to find out whether

it contains soy or not. Most oil soluble vitamin products do contain

soy nowadays. It is wise to double-check. Safflower oil is not good

either.

Bee

[Guest guest]

wrote:

>

> I'm SO behind on posts here, but I wanted to respond to this

thread.

>

==>Bee wrote: Carol, if the source is fish oil it can still contain

soy. NOW has a brand which is from Fish Oil but it still contains

soy as well. I suggest you contact the Vitamin Shoppe and get them

to find out whether it contains soy or not. Most oil soluble

vitamin products do contain soy nowadays. It is wise to double-

check. Safflower oil is not good either.

>

> The other day, I ordered a bunch of supplements from Vitacost. I

really tried to take the time to make sure that the supplements I

purchased met all the criteria they needed to. I thought I'd done

such a good job 'til I went and looked at the Twinlab Allergy A & D

that I bought. (I definitely don't get enough D from the sun

because even minimal exposure causes a horribly itchy rash on my

very light skin.) Anyway, I read the " free of " list, and it was

impressive. It was free of " tablet binders, coatings, colorings,

fish, soy, yeast, barley, wheat, milk and milk sugar, citrus, eggs,

flavorings, sugars, salt, artificial sweeteners, preservatives, and

salicylates. " It has 10,000IU of A and 400IU of D.

> Thing was, I apparently didn't look at the " other ingredients "

section. The first two " other ingredients " are potato starch and

rice bran extract. What do those of you with a little more

experience think? Would it be OK to take 2 of these tablets per day,

or should I send them back?

==>If it is free-of fish what are the A & D from? Does it say fish

oil or Halibut Liver Oil on the bottle? Check that out first,

because many companies are using synthetic A & D, or part synthetic

and part natural source. It's maddening to try and find the " real

thing " .

Bee

[Guest guest]

I did the same thing...bought Vitamin A with potato starch. I had headaches

each day till I stopped taking them and bought a different brand.

Jan

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[Guest guest]

I'm SO behind on posts here, but I wanted to respond to this thread.

> ==>Carol, if the source is fish oil it can still contain soy. NOW has

> a brand which is from Fish Oil but it still contains soy as well. I

> suggest you contact the Vitamin Shoppe and get them to find out whether

> it contains soy or not. Most oil soluble vitamin products do contain

> soy nowadays. It is wise to double-check. Safflower oil is not good

> either.

The other day, I ordered a bunch of supplements from Vitacost. I really

tried to take the time to make sure that the supplements I purchased met

all the criteria they needed to. I thought I'd done such a good job 'til

I went and looked at the Twinlab Allergy A & D that I bought. (I

definitely don't get enough D from the sun because even minimal exposure

causes a horribly itchy rash on my very light skin.) Anyway, I read the

" free of " list, and it was impressive. It was free of " tablet binders,

coatings, colorings, fish, soy, yeast, barley, wheat, milk and milk sugar,

citrus, eggs, flavorings, sugars, salt, artificial sweeteners,

preservatives, and salicylates. " It has 10,000IU of A and 400IU of D.

Thing was, I apparently didn't look at the " other ingredients " section.

The first two " other ingredients " are potato starch and rice bran extract.

What do those of you with a little more experience think? Would it be OK

to take 2 of these tablets per day, or should I send them back?

in IN

[Guest guest]

, it is tough to find the right supplements. I'm discouraged too,

and the more I learn the more discouraged I get. I wish I could advise

that you do not need any supplements, but the most important ones are

oil soluble. Vitamin A seems to be the most difficult one to buy.

Bee

[Guest guest]

> ==>If it is free-of fish what are the A & D from? Does it say fish

> oil or Halibut Liver Oil on the bottle? Check that out first,

> because many companies are using synthetic A & D, or part synthetic

> and part natural source. It's maddening to try and find the " real

> thing " .

Well, CRUD! It doesn't say where it comes from. I guess I just assumed

that it was OK because it was " free " of all the usual suspects. Luckily,

the dry-base vitamin E that I got specifically says that it's from a 100%

natural source (not the dl- garbage.)

The A & D thing seems to be the only place that I " messed up " . Otherwise,

I've done pretty well.

I've been making do with what I've had around because I haven't been in a

position to buy supplements, but when I started running out of stuff that

needed replacing (and came into a little extra money), I thought that'd be

the best time to try and track down all the supplements. We'll see what

kind of improvement I find.

Thanks, Bee!

in IN

[Guest guest]

>

> What about Vitamin A? Is this something we should be taking?

>

Betty,

The vitamin A is coming from the Cod Liver Oil (or Fish Oil during the

summer).

See the Supplements List in the files for further details.

jackie

[Guest guest]

> Hi bee

> this is mike im having a hard time finding halibut liver oil without

> vitamin d?

NOW sells shark liver oil that's got 10,000 IU Vit A, and that's all

that's listed on the container. It doesn't contain soy either.

in IN

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

What is the best supplement to take for Vitamin A, and how much should we

take?

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,

Also, fish oil seems to bother my stomach, and flaxseed raises my estrogen

to levels I can't tolerate, so I need another way to take vitamin A.

Thanks,

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In a message dated 12/2/2007 11:06:09 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

b53cjf@... writes:

One trick I've learned helps with digesting oils (I also have a

problem with that) is to take a tablespoon of unsweetened applesauce.

The pectin in the apples emulsifies the oils and makes them easily

digestible.

,

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Olif,

I got into natural health and healing when I was in my early 20's and

now I'm 54. I've used hundreds of supplements, many have helped me

greatly, but none made as dramatic a difference as Vit A.

But it cannot be in the form of beta-carotene, as many people, hypers

in particular, cannot convert it to the active retinol form. I take

the Carlson brand of Vit A from fish oil, 25.000 IU.

Vit A is essential for the health of the immune system and the

integrity of the mucus membranes, which line both the respiratory and

digestive tracts. It also has a normalizing effect on both over- and

under-active immune systems, so is important with any auto-immune

condition.

I always was prone to bronchitis, ear infections, cough, upper

respiratory infections. Back then, when Prevention magazine was worth

reading and actually had great information on supplements, I read how

important Vit A was for these problems I continually had.

I initially started out taking about 100,000 IU/day for a few weeks,

then went down to a maintenance dose. Since then, I rarely get sick

anymore, and if I do, the symptoms are far less.

Vit A is also essential to the health of the endocrine system, so

anyone with thyroid problems would do well to increase their intake.

It's also important to take D3 along with the A, since taking both has

a synergistic effect and prevents toxic levels of either one.

>

> Does anyone understand the info concerning vitamin A on 's website?

>

> It looks like you wouldn't want to supplement with vitamin A,

because the liver storage is higher, because your body isn't

transporting it correctly.

>

> But some of the articles seem to conclude that vitamin A would be

deficient in hypers.

>

> So, is the liver just storing all the vitamin A because it can't use

it, or is it really deficient?

>

> I am trying to figure out why my nails are suddenly splitting. It

can be a sign of excess vitamin A among many other possibilities...

>

> Thanks,

> Olif

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Correction: Meant to say that 'Many people with thyroid problems

cannot convert it to the active form. "

> >

> > Does anyone understand the info concerning vitamin A on 's

website?

> >

> > It looks like you wouldn't want to supplement with vitamin A,

> because the liver storage is higher, because your body isn't

> transporting it correctly.

> >

> > But some of the articles seem to conclude that vitamin A would be

> deficient in hypers.

> >

> > So, is the liver just storing all the vitamin A because it can't use

> it, or is it really deficient?

> >

> > I am trying to figure out why my nails are suddenly splitting. It

> can be a sign of excess vitamin A among many other possibilities...

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Olif

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

:

" But it cannot be in the form of beta-carotene, as many people, hypers

in particular, cannot convert it to the active retinol form. "

I thought hypers are rapidly converting beta-carotene to retinol. I thought it

was hypos who cannot do this.

" I take

the Carlson brand of Vit A from fish oil, 25.000 IU. "

That is what I have recently been taking (NOW brand though). Prior to that, I

was taking about 10-15,000 IU from CLO for about 2-3 years. I have also

increased my D3 from 2-3000 IU to 4000 IU, because my OH-vit D is only 38.

So, you don't think it could be the high vit A causing it? I don't think 25,000

is very high, especially since I am taking it about every other day or 2 days on

and 1 off. The articles on 's site are confusing me, though, making me think

I am rapidly converting beta-carotene to vit A and taking vit A from fish liver

oil on top of it and possibly storing it all in the liver, because I can't

transport it correctly.

What do you think?

I am reading about folic acid deficiency and breaking nails, too. I am just too

scared to try adding other B's right now, after my recent insomnia and

nervousness (the nervousness is still here). I will try adding it in a few days.

I see my doctor tomorrow. She might have some ideas on the sudden nail breakage.

I am quite positive it is a deficiency (or I suppose excess), but I haven't

figured out what it is. Iron is a possibility too. I wonder if my copper has

started decreasing my iron stores. I also notice that I tend to get a little

dizzy around day 1-2 of my menstrual cycle. Then it goes away though. I am just

afraid that taking iron right now might further drive down my copper. Isn't this

fun to figure out?!!!

Thanks,

Olif

[Guest guest]

Olif,

I really don't think Vit A is at all causing your problems. Even if

you were toxic with it, you don't have the symptoms, and being hyper

isn't one of them.

Have you had ferritin levels checked recently?

Also, here's some info on methylation:

http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/articles/walshMP.htm#Met

This link is addressing atrial fibrillation, but has some interesting

methylation info:

http://www.afibbers.org/conference/session20.pdf

Also, have you since this about nail health:

http://www.aafp.org/afp/20040315/1417.html

>

> :

> " But it cannot be in the form of beta-carotene, as many people, hypers

> in particular, cannot convert it to the active retinol form. "

>

>

> I thought hypers are rapidly converting beta-carotene to retinol. I

thought it was hypos who cannot do this.

>

> " I take

> the Carlson brand of Vit A from fish oil, 25.000 IU. "

>

> That is what I have recently been taking (NOW brand though). Prior

to that, I was taking about 10-15,000 IU from CLO for about 2-3 years.

I have also increased my D3 from 2-3000 IU to 4000 IU, because my

OH-vit D is only 38.

>

> So, you don't think it could be the high vit A causing it? I don't

think 25,000 is very high, especially since I am taking it about every

other day or 2 days on and 1 off. The articles on 's site are

confusing me, though, making me think I am rapidly converting

beta-carotene to vit A and taking vit A from fish liver oil on top of

it and possibly storing it all in the liver, because I can't transport

it correctly.

>

> What do you think?

>

> I am reading about folic acid deficiency and breaking nails, too. I

am just too scared to try adding other B's right now, after my recent

insomnia and nervousness (the nervousness is still here). I will try

adding it in a few days. I see my doctor tomorrow. She might have some

ideas on the sudden nail breakage. I am quite positive it is a

deficiency (or I suppose excess), but I haven't figured out what it

is. Iron is a possibility too. I wonder if my copper has started

decreasing my iron stores. I also notice that I tend to get a little

dizzy around day 1-2 of my menstrual cycle. Then it goes away though.

I am just afraid that taking iron right now might further drive down

my copper. Isn't this fun to figure out?!!!

>

> Thanks,

> Olif

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ant Joan,

I like the Carlson brand of Vit. A from fish oil. It comes in 25,000

IU and 10,000 IU caps. If one is deficient, I would suggest the

25,000 strength for a couple of months, then decrease to the 10,000,

and then if you feel you are getting sick, go back to the higher doses

for several days. I've taken as much as 200,000 IU for a couple of

days when I felt myself getting sick.

>

> Dear ,

>

> What is the best supplement to take for Vitamin A, and how much

should we

> take?

>

> AntJoan

>

>

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Ant Joan,

This Vit A is DERIVED from fish oil, so there's not much there at all.

One trick I've learned helps with digesting oils (I also have a

problem with that) is to take a tablespoon of unsweetened applesauce.

The pectin in the apples emulsifies the oils and makes them easily

digestible.

>

> ,

>

> Also, fish oil seems to bother my stomach, and flaxseed raises my

estrogen

> to levels I can't tolerate, so I need another way to take vitamin A.

>

> Thanks,

> Joan

>

>

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:

" Have you had ferritin levels checked recently? "

The last time I had it tested was Oct., after I had been supplementing with

copper for about 3 weeks. It was 60-something, which is down from 90-something

it was a year ago. Maybe it is lower right now...I really have no idea.

" Also, here's some info on methylation:

http://www.alternativementalhealth.com/articles/walshMP.htm#Met "

It looks like I am overmethylating, if anything. But any other time in my life,

I would be characteristic is undermethylating. I do want to ask Dr. H to get my

neurotransmitters tomorrow. She uses NeuroScience for this. I think they are an

excellent company.

I will let you know my results!

-Olif

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

It's good to hear from you. You are right, that your reactions are

die-off/healing reactions.

Any skin reactions, rash, etc. are caused by toxins coming out

through the skin. That is one of the very best ways the body uses to

get rid of toxins so vital inner organs are protected. When such

symptoms intensify that is because your body acquires the capability

of detoxifying better.

I think the reason your skin reactions get worse when you take

vitamin A is because that is exactly what your body requires, even

though I am very familiar with you taking high vitamin A (Accutane)

in the past. The form of vitamin A you are taking now is a different

form, which is required in order to heal.

Bee

>

> Hello, Bee.

>

> Very-long-time-no-post, I know.

>

> I'm writing in because I'm still struggling with maintaining a

> consistent high vitamin A supplementation (vitamin A rich foods like

> liver, as well).

>

> I am still highly reactive to it, overall.

>

> I've got some FIERCE rash going on right now, seemingly viral

related

> (although I'm not limiting what it could be from), and it flares HOT

> (red and ITCHY!) the more I push the vitamin A.

>

> The rash is most prominent on the right side of my body, in my

> upper-inner arm, arm-pit, and down my right 'trunk.' I also get

some

> of these ITCHY bug-bite like lesions on my legs, lower stomach,

chest,

> and also around my right wrist. A few days back I was hitting the

> chicken livers good and these clear liquid filled blisters were

> itching like CRAZY! I had to get up and squeeze out the liquid

because

> it was so irritating at night when I was trying to sleep. It felt

> like what some lymies describe from their herxes where things are

> coming out.

>

> I say that it seems viral related because the major location of the

> rash and blisters and scabbed bug-bite things are very indicative of

> Shingles reactivation. I'd like to think it is more likely a

> die-off/healing response instead of a lowered immunity and

> reactivation of the virus.

<snip>

[Guest guest]

This sounds like chicken pox. Have you had them before?

On 21-Nov-08, at 12:45 PM, wrote:

> Hello, Bee.

>

> Very-long-time-no-post, I know.

>

> I'm writing in because I'm still struggling with maintaining a

> consistent high vitamin A supplementation (vitamin A rich foods like

> liver, as well).

>

> I am still highly reactive to it, overall.

>

> I've got some FIERCE rash going on right now, seemingly viral related

> (although I'm not limiting what it could be from), and it flares HOT

> (red and ITCHY!) the more I push the vitamin A.

>

> The rash is most prominent on the right side of my body, in my

> upper-inner arm, arm-pit, and down my right 'trunk.' I also get some

> of these ITCHY bug-bite like lesions on my legs, lower stomach, chest,

> and also around my right wrist. A few days back I was hitting the

> chicken livers good and these clear liquid filled blisters were

> itching like CRAZY! I had to get up and squeeze out the liquid because

> it was so irritating at night when I was trying to sleep. It felt

> like what some lymies describe from their herxes where things are

> coming out.

>

> I say that it seems viral related because the major location of the

> rash and blisters and scabbed bug-bite things are very indicative of

> Shingles reactivation. I'd like to think it is more likely a

> die-off/healing response instead of a lowered immunity and

> reactivation of the virus.

>

> It's like clockwork that depression, anxiety, upset stomach, brain

> fog, and feelings of darkness and death enter my head after taking the

> A. Is the vitamin A really capable of potentiating my immune system

> so much that it causes such immediate and powerful

> herxes/immunopathology? I mean, I literally feel like I'm dying. I

> think I'm having very strong neuro. herxes.

>

> And what do you think of my rash and such? I've had it going on about

> 2 months now, and some have suggested it could be a sign of vitamin A

> toxicity, even though it has all the hallmark signs of Shingles virus

> reactivation or die-off.

>

> What is your opinion? I'm trying to figure out what could be going on

> here.

>

> Thanks for your time and best wishes to you.

>

> You're old, still mess of a friend,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> hello

>

> Can you tell me where to buy vitamin a with retinol, is this the best?

+++Hi Steve. You can buy Natural Factors brand Vitamin A whic is derived from

fish liver oils at iHerb:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/resource/iherb.php

Even though it contains soybeans, it won't be enough soy to be concerned about

since the retinol is from fish liver oils.

Bee