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The commercials on TV advertizing Lipitor to lower cholesterol specifically

say not to take if you have a liver disease! so do all the prescription

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[ ] liver problems

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> > > > >From: JBerry122@...

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> > > > >Hi all,

> > > > > I wrote several weeks ago telling you all

> > > about my Mom who recently

> > > > >died

> > > > >from AIH and how I was shocked when researching

> > > the disease to find it

> > > > >described me as well! Many of you responded with

> > > such helpful information!

> > > > >I couldn't get an appt. with my GI any sooner

> > > than six weeks, so I decided

> > > > >to

> > > > >wait it out. I also recently had a gallbladder

> > > attack one night. (I

> > > > >realize

> > > > >now that I should have gone to the ER.) TUESDAY

> > > was finally THE

> > > > >APPOINTMENT

> > > > >with the GI. Like many of you, I came away

> > > feeling so let down in the

> > > > >medical system. First, she was obviously in a

> > > hurry, and once I told her

> > > > >I'd

> > > > >had a gallbladder attack, I never *got to* my

> > > list of other symptoms.

> > > > >Also,

> > > > >in thumbing through my chart, she casually

> > > mentioned that from the sonogram

> > > > >of my gallbladder done in 1994, it showed I had a

> > > fatty liver. (LIKE WHY

> > > > >WASN'T I TOLD THAT BACK THEN AND WHAT DOES THAT

> > > MEAN?!) I had to hurriedly

> > > > >inform her that my Mom had recently died of AIH

> > > and I also wanted to have

> > > > >tests run. She questioned that she died from AIH?

> > > Yep, the death

> > > > >certificate

> > > > >says liver failure due to AIH. She accepted that

> > > and said she was going to

> > > > >schedule a sonogram (?) of the gallbladder and if

> > > it showed no stones, then

> > > > >they would follow up with a hidascan. SO, this

> > > morning during the

> > > > >sonogram,

> > > > >the lady said " Whoa, WHAT did you drink this

> > > morning? " I told her I had

> > > > >nothing to drink or eat since the night before.

> > > She said my stomach was so

> > > > >full of water like I'd had a LARGE glass of

> > > water. Then she said I must be

> > > > >diabetic and I replied no. Then I must be on

> > > pain killers, and I replied

> > > > >no.

> > > > > DOES ANYBODY KNOW WHAT OTHER REASONS I COULD

> > > HAVE FLUID LIKE THAT IN MY

> > > > >STOMACH? I do feel bloated all the time, and

> > > have the swelling of my hands

> > > > >and feet. So the sonogram showed no stones, so I

> > > have the hidascan done.

> > > > >The guy injects me with the solution and we wait

> > > and wait and wait. After

> > > > >about 2 hours, he FINALLY can see the

> > > gallbladder. I understand it usually

> > > > >takes about 20 minutes for it to show up. Then,

> > > he said that it functioned

> > > > >at 30 in emptying ... and that was not good, but

> > > not real bad, but all in

> > > > >all, seems like the gallbladder is not

> > > functioning as should. He did

> > > > >mention

> > > > >during all this that it seemed from the sonogram

> > > that my problem was my

> > > > >liver

> > > > >and not my gallbladder. So, no doubt I was

> > > anxious to get the doctor's

> > > > >opinion of all the results (including blood

> > > tests) which was to be in her

> > > > >office today. I called and the receptionist said

> > > it would take 3-4 days

> > > > >for

> > > > >her to review them. I guess I'm just anxious to

> > > hear. Oh an interesting

> > > > >note that last night, after the doctor poking and

> > > proding the liver area, I

> > > > >had a MAJOR itching episode. I have not been

> > > itching too much recently so

> > > > >it

> > > > >had to have been related. ANYWAY, sorry this is

> > > so long. The last few

> > > > >weeks

> > > > >I've been like in denial that I probably have

> > > some kind of liver disease.

> > > > >Recently, I've been trying to catch up on all the

> > > posts which just seems to

> > > > >reaffirm my fears. I've decided that if the GI

> > > just wants to sit on this

> > > > >information, I am going to pursue another doctor,

> > > because there is no doubt

> > > > >something wrong. I know some of you have had

> > > trouble getting a diagnosis.

> > > > >In a way, it would be such a relief just *to

> > > know* what we're dealing with

> > > > >here. Thank you all for allowing me to vent.

> > > > > Judy

> > > > >

> > > > >---------------------------

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One of the side effects of Lipitor is muscle weakness, I don't know about you

but I have enough of that with the lyme. You can get Soloray Red Yeast Rice

supplement that is a natural " statin " will do the same thing without the side

effects.

LymeAngl@... wrote:

Hello eric_s11050@...,

In reference to your comment:

è is anybody on lipitor? did they have any problems?any

è body have elevated liver enzymes? my alt is 64 and Im

è wondering if it had anything to do with the antibiotics,

è also has anybody cleared the brain fog without

è rosephin? and if i had it since 87 and not treated to

è 2003 then do you think that a year and a half is to

è short to be hoping to get over someof my symptoms?

è im at 60% and hoping to get better numbers. eric

****** " any " of the cholesterol lowering drugs can mess with your liver

and enzymes. Plus, the lyme can cause elevations....Have you thought more

about the enemas and castor oil packs???? IMH, I personally would not go near

any

of the cholesterol lowering allopathic drugs. The Genie has lowered my

cholesterol, plus I watch closely what I eat. I'm on a good liver product too,

prescribed by my doc that runs my blood readings.....

******I sent you my telephone number if you want to talk about this feel free

to call me.....This is Saturday night and will be home and up very late....

Angel Huggzz

or Angel

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,

My doctor perscribed crestor versus the others because of the muscle side

effects - how would I know if I was having pain as a side effect when I

already had muscle pain? He said by the time I figured out the side effects

I could be permanently messed up. Crestor was not on my prescription

insurance, but my PCP got it worked out.

Beth

Re: [ ] Lipitor

One of the side effects of Lipitor is muscle weakness, I don't know about

you but I have enough of that with the lyme. You can get Soloray Red Yeast

Rice supplement that is a natural " statin " will do the same thing without

the side effects.

LymeAngl@... wrote:

Hello eric_s11050@...,

In reference to your comment:

è is anybody on lipitor? did they have any problems?any

è body have elevated liver enzymes? my alt is 64 and Im

è wondering if it had anything to do with the antibiotics,

è also has anybody cleared the brain fog without

è rosephin? and if i had it since 87 and not treated to

è 2003 then do you think that a year and a half is to

è short to be hoping to get over someof my symptoms?

è im at 60% and hoping to get better numbers. eric

****** " any " of the cholesterol lowering drugs can mess with your liver

and enzymes. Plus, the lyme can cause elevations....Have you thought more

about the enemas and castor oil packs???? IMH, I personally would not go

near any

of the cholesterol lowering allopathic drugs. The Genie has lowered my

cholesterol, plus I watch closely what I eat. I'm on a good liver product

too,

prescribed by my doc that runs my blood readings.....

******I sent you my telephone number if you want to talk about this feel

free

to call me.....This is Saturday night and will be home and up very late....

Angel Huggzz

or Angel

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Have any of you found that taking Lipitor or other statin drugs has

effected your Libido and/or erectile abililities?

Have any of your doctors mentioned this possibility?

My DH has an appointment with Dr. Andre Guay at the sexual health

clinic at the Lahey in Peabody MA.

I'll let you all know waht Dr. Guay has to say.

Michele

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Michele, I take Lipitor once a day and it does not effect my erectile

abilities. I have secondary hypogonadism and take HCG shots twice a

week. My libido is now better than ever. Hope this helps! Mave in GA

>

> Have any of you found that taking Lipitor or other statin drugs has

> effected your Libido and/or erectile abililities?

>

> Have any of your doctors mentioned this possibility?

>

> My DH has an appointment with Dr. Andre Guay at the sexual health

> clinic at the Lahey in Peabody MA.

>

> I'll let you all know waht Dr. Guay has to say.

>

> Michele

>

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I take Zetia for cholesterol (was told it's the most " liver friendly). My

cholesterol is still un-Godly high but it's the liver disease that causes it.

holsteindonna <holsteindonna@...> wrote: I HAVE AIH AND ALL OF MY

LEVELS ARE WITHIN NORMAL RANGE

MY PCP SUBSCRIBED LIPITOR FOR ME BECAUSE MY CHOLESTEROL

IS SOMEWHAT HIGH. I AM SO HESITANT TO TAKE THE MEDICATION

AND HE SAID THAT THERE SHOULD'T BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE OF MY

NORMAL LEVELS. DOES ANYONE TAKE MEDICATION FOR CHOLESTEROL?

ALSO, I HEAR DIFFERENT OPINIONS OF OVER THE COUNTER PAIN

RELIEF. I TAKE TYLENOL AND ADVIL ONLY ONCE IN A WHILE FOR

HEADACHE OR BACKACHE. WHAT'S EVERYONE'S TAKE ON OVER THE

COUNTER.

THANKS SO MUCH

DONNA

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Hi There... I also am prescribed Zetia...Have been on it a couple years now.

Hasn't helped much, but since it is the (liver friendliest), I don't mind taking

it. And like says it is the liver disease that has everything out of

control... which in my case right now is just about everything.

WOOTTEN <lindawootten@...> wrote: I take Zetia for

cholesterol (was told it's the most " liver friendly). My cholesterol is still

un-Godly high but it's the liver disease that causes it.

holsteindonna <holsteindonna@...> wrote: I HAVE AIH AND ALL OF MY LEVELS

ARE WITHIN NORMAL RANGE

MY PCP SUBSCRIBED LIPITOR FOR ME BECAUSE MY CHOLESTEROL

IS SOMEWHAT HIGH. I AM SO HESITANT TO TAKE THE MEDICATION

AND HE SAID THAT THERE SHOULD'T BE A PROBLEM BECAUSE OF MY

NORMAL LEVELS. DOES ANYONE TAKE MEDICATION FOR CHOLESTEROL?

ALSO, I HEAR DIFFERENT OPINIONS OF OVER THE COUNTER PAIN

RELIEF. I TAKE TYLENOL AND ADVIL ONLY ONCE IN A WHILE FOR

HEADACHE OR BACKACHE. WHAT'S EVERYONE'S TAKE ON OVER THE

COUNTER.

THANKS SO MUCH

DONNA

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Hi Donna,

In my case, my hep said the benefits of taking Lipitor far outweighed

any concerns about the liver, as long as I had my LFT's every 3 months

to monitor for any changes. Both sides of my family have a history of

heart disease and of dying young (50's and 60's) from it.

It's been 6 years now and my levels have remained normal. I have AIH

and PBC.

My cholesterol has gone from 264 to 124.

Take care,

Sandy C.

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