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Josh,

IMO it would be better to retest...could have been laboratory error on your

blood sample.

Good luck...

OR eon

GayMan

Testosterone Results confused me

I'm 21yo with hypogonadism diagnosed about 8months ago.

My levels were about 100 (300-1000 acceptable range labcorp). So I went on

androderm and it did nothing so I went to 5mg androgel. After 3months on

that my levels were constant at around 300-350. So I was put on 10mg of

androgel and I came back after 2months to be tested and I got the results

today. My levels were off the chart for Total Testosterone it was 9,980 on

the same scale as above. My urologist was baffled at why it was soo high (he

added he's never seen anyone that high in his life) since he only doubled it

and my Estridiol was 100 scale said max was 52 for any man.

My question is, the value given to me today is it even possible? Any side

effects? My doctor was pretty baffled and said he's gonna cut my androgel

down but he wanted another test. I don't feel any different, not horny as a

dog, or like going on a rampage etc. I'm kinda confused

Thanks,

Josh

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Josh,

Some of us have seen the same thing with sky high lab results. The

current consensus is that if they draw the blood from the same arm

you used to apply the gel it can screw up the test. Or, if they draw

from an arm you slathered the gel on earlier, it could screw up the

test.

Get it retested and make sure they draw from an arm/hand that you

didn't put any gel on/with. Clear as mud, right?!

Just so you know, normal T levels for someone your age should be in

the 700-800 range. 350 is about right for a 90 year old!

Regards,

K4

> I'm 21yo with hypogonadism diagnosed about 8months ago.

>

>

>

> My levels were about 100 (300-1000 acceptable range labcorp). So I

went on

> androderm and it did nothing so I went to 5mg androgel. After

3months on

> that my levels were constant at around 300-350. So I was put on

10mg of

> androgel and I came back after 2months to be tested and I got the

results

> today. My levels were off the chart for Total Testosterone it was

9,980 on

> the same scale as above. My urologist was baffled at why it was soo

high (he

> added he's never seen anyone that high in his life) since he only

doubled it

> and my Estridiol was 100 scale said max was 52 for any man.

>

>

>

> My question is, the value given to me today is it even possible?

Any side

> effects? My doctor was pretty baffled and said he's gonna cut my

androgel

> down but he wanted another test. I don't feel any different, not

horny as a

> dog, or like going on a rampage etc. I'm kinda confused

>

> Thanks,

>

> Josh

>

>

>

>

>

>

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The lab results are goofy so dont put a lot of work into trying to figure it

out until you get another test back or call the lab and ask what they think.

They probably just frigged it up and forgot to convert something to

something else. Also, I dont know where anyone came up with the idea that

52 is the max for any man on estradiol. An estradiol reading of 100 is

quite possible. It would be high and require treatment but normal is

something in the range of 35-50 or so.

Winter

>From: " Josh Fecht " <@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Testosterone Results confused me

>Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 17:58:08 -0600

>

>I'm 21yo with hypogonadism diagnosed about 8months ago.

>

>

>

>My levels were about 100 (300-1000 acceptable range labcorp). So I went on

>androderm and it did nothing so I went to 5mg androgel. After 3months on

>that my levels were constant at around 300-350. So I was put on 10mg of

>androgel and I came back after 2months to be tested and I got the results

>today. My levels were off the chart for Total Testosterone it was 9,980 on

>the same scale as above. My urologist was baffled at why it was soo high

>(he

>added he's never seen anyone that high in his life) since he only doubled

>it

>and my Estridiol was 100 scale said max was 52 for any man.

>

>

>

>My question is, the value given to me today is it even possible? Any side

>effects? My doctor was pretty baffled and said he's gonna cut my androgel

>down but he wanted another test. I don't feel any different, not horny as a

>dog, or like going on a rampage etc. I'm kinda confused

>

>Thanks,

>

>Josh

>

>

>

>

>

>

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In regards to the below statement, what I was meaning to say was that the

max in the normal range was 52. I spoke with the lab guys and they said that

lab errors are very rare :\ guess I have to wait it out.

Thanks for everyone advice so far

Josh

Also, I dont know where anyone came up with the idea that

52 is the max for any man on estradiol. An estradiol reading of 100 is

quite possible. It would be high and require treatment but normal is

something in the range of 35-50 or so.

_____

From: Down East [mailto:winterqqqq@...]

Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2003 5:32 AM

Subject: RE: Testosterone Results confused me

The lab results are goofy so dont put a lot of work into trying to figure it

out until you get another test back or call the lab and ask what they think.

They probably just frigged it up and forgot to convert something to

something else. Also, I dont know where anyone came up with the idea that

52 is the max for any man on estradiol. An estradiol reading of 100 is

quite possible. It would be high and require treatment but normal is

something in the range of 35-50 or so.

Winter

>From: " Josh Fecht " <@...>

>Reply-

>< >

>Subject: Testosterone Results confused me

>Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 17:58:08 -0600

>

>I'm 21yo with hypogonadism diagnosed about 8months ago.

>

>

>

>My levels were about 100 (300-1000 acceptable range labcorp). So I went on

>androderm and it did nothing so I went to 5mg androgel. After 3months on

>that my levels were constant at around 300-350. So I was put on 10mg of

>androgel and I came back after 2months to be tested and I got the results

>today. My levels were off the chart for Total Testosterone it was 9,980 on

>the same scale as above. My urologist was baffled at why it was soo high

>(he

>added he's never seen anyone that high in his life) since he only doubled

>it

>and my Estridiol was 100 scale said max was 52 for any man.

>

>

>

>My question is, the value given to me today is it even possible? Any side

>effects? My doctor was pretty baffled and said he's gonna cut my androgel

>down but he wanted another test. I don't feel any different, not horny as a

>dog, or like going on a rampage etc. I'm kinda confused

>

>Thanks,

>

>Josh

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Winter,

I agree with possibility of high estradiol levels...

I began Arimidex August 2nd, 2001

My E values then and going back in time

Estradiol Estrogen

9-28-00........................71 (<54)

12-19-00.......................99

2-1-01.........................58

2-9-01.........................52

3-01-01........................96

3-26-01........................50

6-4-01.........................82..............................134 (40 -115)

7-9-00.........................55..............................200

8-2-01.........................87..............................198

Began 1 mg/dy Arimidex

9-29-01........................37...............................85

Began 1 mg Arimidex eod

11-2-01........................59...............................101

Resumed 1 mg Arimidex/dy

12-5-01........................50...............................124

3-11-02........................16................................44

1 mg Arimidex for two days....one day off

4-29-02........................27................................73

7-3-02.. . . . . . . . . . . ..52. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .112

Began Basic (7%) ChryDim Gel....Oct 16th '00

Began Super (10%) ChryDim Gel....Dec 25th'00

I'm preparing a post for....

Alt-Support-Impotence-ASI/

and I'm going to bring my E values up todate in the above table...then I'm

going to add my Serum T and T/E2 ratios to the table...to make it more

comprehensive.

OR eon

GayMan

Testosterone Results confused me

>Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2003 17:58:08 -0600

>

>I'm 21yo with hypogonadism diagnosed about 8months ago.

>

>

>

>My levels were about 100 (300-1000 acceptable range labcorp). So I went on

>androderm and it did nothing so I went to 5mg androgel. After 3months on

>that my levels were constant at around 300-350. So I was put on 10mg of

>androgel and I came back after 2months to be tested and I got the results

>today. My levels were off the chart for Total Testosterone it was 9,980 on

>the same scale as above. My urologist was baffled at why it was soo high

>(he

>added he's never seen anyone that high in his life) since he only doubled

>it

>and my Estridiol was 100 scale said max was 52 for any man.

>

>

>

>My question is, the value given to me today is it even possible? Any side

>effects? My doctor was pretty baffled and said he's gonna cut my androgel

>down but he wanted another test. I don't feel any different, not horny as a

>dog, or like going on a rampage etc. I'm kinda confused

>

>Thanks,

>

>Josh

>

>

>

>

>

>

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