Brown Recluse

[Guest guest]

Hi Cookie!

Could you please send me those pics direct? I once ended up in emergency

room from a spider bite that got all bubbly and started a red streak up my arm.

Also, I still have strong suspicions that a spider or some other bug bite set

off my RA.

I live in wetlands. Spiders galore, some real nasty and big ones. (Ticks

too, lots of deer). I have read about the Brown Recluse years ago in Readers

Digest. A bite can kill you from respiratory arrest. I also learned that they

are working their way up to the Northeast where I live, whereas previously they

were basically down south. Ick.

Babs

[Guest guest]

Babs,

An easy way to educate yourself on brown recluse spiders is to go to

www.google.com and do a search on the term: brown recluse spider

In particular, click on:

http://ohioline.osu.edu/hyg-fact/2000/2061.html

http://www.uky.edu/Agriculture/Entomology/entfacts/struct/ef631.htm

Regards, Harald

At 12:45 AM 7/29/2005 -0400, you wrote:

>Hi Cookie!

>

>Could you please send me those pics direct? I once ended up in emergency

>room from a spider bite that got all bubbly and started a red streak up my

>arm. Also, I still have strong suspicions that a spider or some other bug

>bite set off my RA.

>

>I live in wetlands. Spiders galore, some real nasty and big ones. (Ticks

>too, lots of deer). I have read about the Brown Recluse years ago in

>Readers Digest. A bite can kill you from respiratory arrest. I also

>learned that they are working their way up to the Northeast where I live,

>whereas previously they were basically down south. Ick.

>

>Babs

[Guest guest]

Brown recluse bites are nothing to fool around with, so watch it very

closely. Hopefully Bee has some good advice. Also, hopefully the

doctor was mistaken and it's a less harmless bite from another critter.

Doug

[Guest guest]

A friend of mine just had that happen about a month ago. She got

activated charcoal powder and put it on the bite several times a day. It

never did get really bad and in two weeks the bite was almost gone.

You probably want to start this fast, though; you might have to call

around to see who in your area sells activated charcoal. I think it is

often sold in capsules which you'd break open to apply.

Zack

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008, irene.m@... wrote:

> Just got back from the doctor and seems I have been bitten by a brown

> recluse spider. Yikes! She gave me a prescription for an antibiotic but

> said that I could hold off a couple of days to see if it gets better by

> itself. Anyway, I am just wondering if anyone has any advice. I am taking

> 1000 mg vitamin C every 1/2 hour and I am putting mustard packs on it. I

> just wondered if anyone has any other suggestions. I am not tolerating

> coconut oil on the diet. If I were further along, I would take oregano oil

> but right now I am afraid it would cause too much die off and stress my

> system too much.

> Thanks,

> Irene

>

[Guest guest]

Does she apply heat with the castor oil? I am a little afraid to use heat

because that might increase the inflammation.

Irene

At 05:18 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote:

>I have a friend who swears by castor oil paks.

>

>Best wishes

>Kara

>

>

> >

> > Just got back from the doctor and seems I have been bitten by a

>brown

> > recluse spider. Yikes! She gave me a prescription for an antibiotic

>but

> > said that I could hold off a couple of days to see if it gets

>better by

> > itself. Anyway, I am just wondering if anyone has any advice. I am

>taking

> > 1000 mg vitamin C every 1/2 hour and I am putting mustard packs on

>it. I

> > just wondered if anyone has any other suggestions. I am not

>tolerating

> > coconut oil on the diet. If I were further along, I would take

>oregano oil

> > but right now I am afraid it would cause too much die off and

>stress my

> > system too much.

> > Thanks,

> > Irene

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Irene,

I'm not sure you'd care to see pictures of what a brown recluse bite looks like,

but a friend sent me pictures that I can email you. It just may sicken you

though, as it is very grotesque. I would gather all the advice here and fight it

with tooth and nail. I'm now more terrified of spiders than ever after seeing

these pictures. I hope it isn't a spider bite and will clear soon. Val

From: irene.m@... & lt;irene.m@... & gt;

Subject: [ ] brown recluse

Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 8:01 PM

Just got back from the doctor and seems I have been bitten by a brown

recluse spider. Yikes! She gave me a prescription for an antibiotic but

said that I could hold off a couple of days to see if it gets better by

itself. Anyway, I am just wondering if anyone has any advice. I am taking

1000 mg vitamin C every 1/2 hour and I am putting mustard packs on it. I

just wondered if anyone has any other suggestions. I am not tolerating

coconut oil on the diet. If I were further along, I would take oregano oil

but right now I am afraid it would cause too much die off and stress my

system too much.

Thanks,

Irene

[Guest guest]

No. All the instructions I've seen for handling brown recluse bites say

NOT to apply heat. It would only make it worse.

Zack

On Thu, 12 Jun 2008, irene.m@... wrote:

> Does she apply heat with the castor oil? I am a little afraid to use heat

> because that might increase the inflammation.

> Irene

>

> At 05:18 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote:

>

>> I have a friend who swears by castor oil paks.

>>

>> Best wishes

>> Kara

>>

[Guest guest]

Hi Irene,

I want to see the picture, ediepie@...

thanks

edie

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2008 19:05:34 -0700Subject: Re: [ ] brown recluse

Irene,I'm not sure you'd care to see pictures of what a brown recluse bite looks

like, but a friend sent me pictures that I can email you. It just may sicken you

though, as it is very grotesque. I would gather all the advice here and fight it

with tooth and nail. I'm now more terrified of spiders than ever after seeing

these pictures. I hope it isn't a spider bite and will clear soon. Val--- On

Thu, 6/12/08, irene.m@... & lt;irene.m@... & gt; wrote:From:

irene.m@... & lt;irene.m@... & gt;Subject: [ ]

brown recluse @...: Thursday, June 12, 2008,

8:01 PMJust got back from the doctor and seems I have been bitten by a brown

recluse spider. Yikes! She gave me a prescription for an antibiotic but said

that I could hold off a couple of days to see if it gets better by itself.

Anyway, I am just wondering if anyone has any advice. I am taking 1000 mg

vitamin C every 1/2 hour and I am putting mustard packs on it. I just wondered

if anyone has any other suggestions. I am not tolerating coconut oil on the

diet. If I were further along, I would take oregano oil but right now I am

afraid it would cause too much die off and stress my system too

much.Thanks,Irene

[Guest guest]

>

> Just got back from the doctor and seems I have been bitten by a

brown

> recluse spider. Yikes! She gave me a prescription for an antibiotic

but

> said that I could hold off a couple of days to see if it gets

better by

> itself. Anyway, I am just wondering if anyone has any advice. I am

taking

> 1000 mg vitamin C every 1/2 hour and I am putting mustard packs on

it. I

> just wondered if anyone has any other suggestions. I am not

tolerating

> coconut oil on the diet. If I were further along, I would take

oregano oil

> but right now I am afraid it would cause too much die off and

stress my

> system too much.

> Thanks,

> Irene

>

Irene,

A nitroglycerin patch is supposed to work wonders:

http://www.geocities.com/yosemite/forest/2021/recluse/intro.html

It says the patch helps by dilating the blood vessels, so I wonder if

niacin would be effective?

[Guest guest]

Brown recluse spider bites are serious. When my brother got bit by a spider I

put a paste of dry mustard on the bites. We left it on for 10 minutes and washed

it off. We waited 30 minutes and put another dab on the bite for 10 minutes.

That washed off we put on oil of oregano and a bandage. The next day where the

bandage stayed on, was not swollen. Where it came off, it was a bit swollen. Mz

Violet

==============

Just got back from the doctor and seems I have been bitten by a brown

recluse spider. Yikes! She gave me a prescription for an antibiotic but

said that I could hold off a couple of days to see if it gets better by

itself. Anyway, I am just wondering if anyone has any advice. I am taking

1000 mg vitamin C every 1/2 hour and I am putting mustard packs on it. I

just wondered if anyone has any other suggestions. I am not tolerating

coconut oil on the diet. If I were further along, I would take oregano oil

but right now I am afraid it would cause too much die off and stress my

system too much.

Thanks,

Irene

[Guest guest]

I am using mustard and that seems to be helping quite a bit. I just put on

regular mustard, wait until it dries and then wash off. I will try the oil

of oregano tonight.

Thanks,

Irene

At 07:25 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote:

>Brown recluse spider bites are serious. When my brother got bit by a

>spider I put a paste of dry mustard on the bites. We left it on for 10

>minutes and washed it off. We waited 30 minutes and put another dab on the

>bite for 10 minutes. That washed off we put on oil of oregano and a

>bandage. The next day where the bandage stayed on, was not swollen. Where

>it came off, it was a bit swollen. Mz Violet

>==============

>

>

>Just got back from the doctor and seems I have been bitten by a brown

>recluse spider. Yikes! She gave me a prescription for an antibiotic but

>said that I could hold off a couple of days to see if it gets better by

>itself. Anyway, I am just wondering if anyone has any advice. I am taking

>1000 mg vitamin C every 1/2 hour and I am putting mustard packs on it. I

>just wondered if anyone has any other suggestions. I am not tolerating

>coconut oil on the diet. If I were further along, I would take oregano oil

>but right now I am afraid it would cause too much die off and stress my

>system too much.

>Thanks,

>Irene

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks . the patch is by prescription. I will take it to my doctor

tomorrow and see what she says.

Thanks,

Irene

At 07:15 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote:

>

> >

> > Just got back from the doctor and seems I have been bitten by a

>brown

> > recluse spider. Yikes! She gave me a prescription for an antibiotic

>but

> > said that I could hold off a couple of days to see if it gets

>better by

> > itself. Anyway, I am just wondering if anyone has any advice. I am

>taking

> > 1000 mg vitamin C every 1/2 hour and I am putting mustard packs on

>it. I

> > just wondered if anyone has any other suggestions. I am not

>tolerating

> > coconut oil on the diet. If I were further along, I would take

>oregano oil

> > but right now I am afraid it would cause too much die off and

>stress my

> > system too much.

> > Thanks,

> > Irene

> >

>Irene,

>A nitroglycerin patch is supposed to work wonders:

><http://www.geocities.com/yosemite/forest/2021/recluse/intro.html>http://www.ge\

ocities.com/yosemite/forest/2021/recluse/intro.html

>

>

>It says the patch helps by dilating the blood vessels, so I wonder if

>niacin would be effective?

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, that is what I would have thought. The only way I know of using

castor oil is with heat. I don't know if it works without it.

Still looking for my stash of activated charcoal. Might have to buy some

tomorrow.

Irene

At 07:11 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote:

>No. All the instructions I've seen for handling brown recluse bites say

>NOT to apply heat. It would only make it worse.

>

>Zack

>

>On Thu, 12 Jun 2008,

><mailto:irene.m%40roadrunner.com>irene.m@... wrote:

>

> > Does she apply heat with the castor oil? I am a little afraid to use heat

> > because that might increase the inflammation.

> > Irene

> >

> > At 05:18 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote:

> >

> >> I have a friend who swears by castor oil paks.

> >>

> >> Best wishes

> >> Kara

> >>

>

[Guest guest]

Don't need to see the pictures. I am freaked out enough but thanks anyway.

Irene

At 07:05 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote:

>Irene,

>I'm not sure you'd care to see pictures of what a brown recluse bite looks

>like, but a friend sent me pictures that I can email you. It just may

>sicken you though, as it is very grotesque. I would gather all the advice

>here and fight it with tooth and nail. I'm now more terrified of spiders

>than ever after seeing these pictures. I hope it isn't a spider bite and

>will clear soon. Val

>

>

>

>From: <mailto:irene.m%40roadrunner.com>irene.m@...

> & lt;<mailto:irene.m%40roadrunner.com>irene.m@... & gt;

>Subject: [ ] brown recluse

><mailto: %40>

>Date: Thursday, June 12, 2008, 8:01 PM

>

>Just got back from the doctor and seems I have been bitten by a brown

>recluse spider. Yikes! She gave me a prescription for an antibiotic but

>said that I could hold off a couple of days to see if it gets better by

>itself. Anyway, I am just wondering if anyone has any advice. I am taking

>1000 mg vitamin C every 1/2 hour and I am putting mustard packs on it. I

>just wondered if anyone has any other suggestions. I am not tolerating

>coconut oil on the diet. If I were further along, I would take oregano oil

>but right now I am afraid it would cause too much die off and stress my

>system too much.

>Thanks,

>Irene

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Just got back from the doctor and seems I have been bitten by a

brown

> recluse spider. Yikes! She gave me a prescription for an antibiotic

but

> said that I could hold off a couple of days to see if it gets

better by

> itself. Anyway, I am just wondering if anyone has any advice. I am

taking

> 1000 mg vitamin C every 1/2 hour and I am putting mustard packs on

it. I

> just wondered if anyone has any other suggestions. I am not

tolerating

> coconut oil on the diet. If I were further along, I would take

oregano oil

> but right now I am afraid it would cause too much die off and

stress my

> system too much.

> Thanks,

> Irene

==>Hi Irene. The vitamin C and mustard packs will help for sure! I

recommend mixing hydrogen peroxide 50/50 with clean water, put it on

gauze and tape it on the area. Replenish the h202 mixture on the

gauze every 3-4 hours. The gauze can be changed once a day.

Also if the bite is in an area you can soak, soak it 3 times a day in

the same mixture. Also take H202 baths: Use 2 cups of 3% H202 in a

full bath.

I hope that helps.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Ok. Are you recommending 3% H2O2 with water on the gauze? I will give that

a try. Maybe I will alternate that with the mustard packs. the mustard is

definitely helping. The bite is on my thigh so I can't really soak it

without getting in the tub.

Thanks,

Irene

At 05:34 AM 6/13/2008, you wrote:

>

> >

> > Just got back from the doctor and seems I have been bitten by a

>brown

> > recluse spider. Yikes! She gave me a prescription for an antibiotic

>but

> > said that I could hold off a couple of days to see if it gets

>better by

> > itself. Anyway, I am just wondering if anyone has any advice. I am

>taking

> > 1000 mg vitamin C every 1/2 hour and I am putting mustard packs on

>it. I

> > just wondered if anyone has any other suggestions. I am not

>tolerating

> > coconut oil on the diet. If I were further along, I would take

>oregano oil

> > but right now I am afraid it would cause too much die off and

>stress my

> > system too much.

> > Thanks,

> > Irene

>

>==>Hi Irene. The vitamin C and mustard packs will help for sure! I

>recommend mixing hydrogen peroxide 50/50 with clean water, put it on

>gauze and tape it on the area. Replenish the h202 mixture on the

>gauze every 3-4 hours. The gauze can be changed once a day.

>

>Also if the bite is in an area you can soak, soak it 3 times a day in

>the same mixture. Also take H202 baths: Use 2 cups of 3% H202 in a

>full bath.

>

>I hope that helps.

>Bee

>

>

[Guest guest]

I would recommend a product called cell food.

Buy the gel, not liquid. Apply liberally.

I had a br bite once and it took 6 months

to heal the small wound.

Later I had a bite on my face...don't know

what kind of spider but it was a big hole

type. I used the gel and a bunch of stuff

which I think was poison came out of the

hole and it healed up without scarring within

a few days.

Just my experience. HTH

Jagrati

[Guest guest]

>

> Ok. Are you recommending 3% H2O2 with water on the gauze? I will give

that

> a try. Maybe I will alternate that with the mustard packs. the

mustard is

> definitely helping. The bite is on my thigh so I can't really soak it

> without getting in the tub.

==>Hi Irene. Yes, you can use 3% regular drug-store type hydrogen

peroxide. I hope it clears up okay for you. I think you'll do fine

since you are treating it the way you should.

Luv, Bee