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Hi ,

You stated "Some have had success with flaxseed oil (FSO). Use about 3 ounces per day.

Many use cottage cheese with it, but I am not convinced of its value. I would avoid vitamin E

and selenium while doing the FSO. Vitamin C is more debatable."

I am trying to use a multiple approach in fighting prostate cancer. As such, I take 4 tbls. of Flax

Seed Oil (FSO) w/1c. cottage cheese, 200+ mcg. selenium, and 400 IU vitamin E (along with

enzymes, MGN-3 and apricot kernels) each day. Based on my research on FSO, I can't agree

with taking FSO without the cottage cheese. I believe there is evidence of doing so possibly may

even be detrimental to cancer patients. However, I am primarily interested in your reasoning

concerning NOT taking selenium or Vit. E with FSO. What is the basis or theory behind that

part of your statement.

Thanks,

Jon

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Are these things available only in Mexico or can this be had in the states?

I have been on the FSO, but not enough, so I need to increase that. So are

you saying to take or not to take the vit. C? Thank you for all your help!

Jean

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> > >

> > > > Hello,

> > > > I am going into Mexico the end of Nov. Is there things to buy there

> for

> > > > cancer that I can't get here in the US. Any help would be

> appreciated.

> > > > Jean

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> Learn more about cancer:

> http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/

> http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/faq.htm

> http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/

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Jon, Do you take the 4 tbs of flax all at once or do you spread it out during the day?

Jean

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Hi ,

You stated "Some have had success with flaxseed oil (FSO). Use about 3 ounces per day.

Many use cottage cheese with it, but I am not convinced of its value. I would avoid vitamin E

and selenium while doing the FSO. Vitamin C is more debatable."

I am trying to use a multiple approach in fighting prostate cancer. As such, I take 4 tbls. of Flax

Seed Oil (FSO) w/1c. cottage cheese, 200+ mcg. selenium, and 400 IU vitamin E (along with

enzymes, MGN-3 and apricot kernels) each day. Based on my research on FSO, I can't agree

with taking FSO without the cottage cheese. I believe there is evidence of doing so possibly may

even be detrimental to cancer patients. However, I am primarily interested in your reasoning

concerning NOT taking selenium or Vit. E with FSO. What is the basis or theory behind that

part of your statement.

Thanks,

Jon

Learn more about cancer:http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/faq.htmhttp://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1158You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the egroups.

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asked: "Do you take the 4 tbs. of flax all at once or do you spread it out during the day?"

Hi

I combine 4 tbs.. flax oil with 1 cup, low-fat, cottage cheese and then also add a couple of tbsp.. of flax seed. I put this in the blender and add a little water (about 1 oz.) to get the consistency thinner so it blends well. I then take this spread out through the day at 1/4 to 1/3 each time depending on my schedule.

I frequently add honey, fruit or a little flavored yogurt to make the taste even better. I believe those who complain about the taste are not blending the cottage cheese with the oil. Doing so takes away all of the oiliness of the "spread". I also use the spread in place of mayonnaise on sandwiches.

That's more info. than you asked for but I hope it helps you and others here. Incidentally, I also belong to "FlaxSeedOil" group. I believe the following will get you to the site:

FlaxSeedOil

Good luck.

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Jon,

Part of the way FSO works is by a free radical mechanism. You would want to avoid exogenous substances that quench free radicals. This is especially true for Vit E.

Selenium is requisite for glutathione peroxidase. The activities of both FSO and laetrile would be suppressed by glutathione. There is plenty of evidence that selenium and vitamin E help prevent cancer. There is little evidence that they will help cure it. Vitamin C is more debatable as it is also a pro-oxidant and there are many other factors to take into account.

There is plenty of evidence that FSO has benefit as a standalone. I have not seen any real rationale for the addition of cottage cheese. This is not to say it is bad, as I don't think it is in the small amounts recommended.

I know of no way that the sulfur-bearing proteins in cottage cheese will react with an unsaturated fatty acid.

Re: [ ] Pancreatic cancer

Hi ,

You stated "Some have had success with flaxseed oil (FSO). Use about 3 ounces per day.

Many use cottage cheese with it, but I am not convinced of its value. I would avoid vitamin E

and selenium while doing the FSO. Vitamin C is more debatable."

I am trying to use a multiple approach in fighting prostate cancer. As such, I take 4 tbls. of Flax

Seed Oil (FSO) w/1c. cottage cheese, 200+ mcg. selenium, and 400 IU vitamin E (along with

enzymes, MGN-3 and apricot kernels) each day. Based on my research on FSO, I can't agree

with taking FSO without the cottage cheese. I believe there is evidence of doing so possibly may

even be detrimental to cancer patients. However, I am primarily interested in your reasoning

concerning NOT taking selenium or Vit. E with FSO. What is the basis or theory behind that

part of your statement.

Thanks,

Jon

Learn more about cancer:http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/faq.htmhttp://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1158You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the egroups.

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If only protein was required there would be umpteen ways to do that.

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> I thought that cottage cheese was to provide simply protein??

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> Learn more about cancer:

> http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/

> http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/faq.htm

> http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/

> http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1158

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Hi ,

I just checked my messages from home and realized the one I sent you from

work today did not go out. So please forgive my poor internet skills, I am

so so sorry. I think it would be better if you email me at work so I won't

mess up again.

coronadosafe@.... I have some news.

sincerely,

Toni

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Please tell me where I can get and or recieve these treatments!!

Thanks

Jean

Re: [ ] Hello

> > >

> > >

> > > > Hello,

> > > > I am going into Mexico the end of Nov. Is there things to buy there

> for

> > > > cancer that I can't get here in the US. Any help would be

> appreciated.

> > > > Jean

>

>

>

>

> Learn more about cancer:

> http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/

> http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/faq.htm

> http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/

> http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1158

>

> You are receiving this email because you elected to subscribe to the

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Thank you Danny. Would I need to travel to New York city?

[ ] pancreatic cancer

>

>

> Dr is currentally looking for people for his pancreatic

> trial for pancreatic cancer. If you qualify it would all be free.

> It is a very good alternative program that has had a lot of success.

> I am on it and have been happy with the results. HE is in New York

> and if you are interrested you can reach him at 212-213-3337.

>

> Danny

>

>

>

> Learn more about cancer:

> http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/

> http://home.online.no/~dusan/diseases/cancer/faq.htm

> http://www.geocities.com/~mycleanse/

> http://www.geocities.com/HotSprings/1158

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I agree with Bill. You can read about ’s work on

http://www.dr-gonzalez.com <http://www.dr-gonzalez.com/> Click on the

Text-only version <http://www.dr-gonzalez.com/regimen_txt.htm> : to the rest

of his website.

[ ] pancreatic cancer

I recommend contacting:

J. , M.D., P.C.

36A East 36th Street

Suite 204

New York, N.Y. 10016

Phone: 212-213-3337

Fax: 212-213-3414

Dr. received a $5 million grant to document his successful work

treating pancreatic cancer. He relies on a primarily natural approach

(enzymes, supplements, etc.).

Bill

Bill Asenjo, PhD, CRC

Writer; Consultant

www.billasenjo.com

basenjo@...

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Hi Deepa,

I have 4 documents re pancreatic cancer with hopefully enough information to

help your close relative. Please respond to my private email address if you

are interested and I can pass them on.

Regards

Hanneke ~ Australia

Message: 3

Date: Thu, 22 Jan 2004 22:59:13 -0800 (PST)

From: Deepa <sisact2000@...>

Subject: NEEDED HELP....

I need some of you people out there to help me out on this condition of my close

relative...

Sorry for the long posting...but then this is what explains our precise

situation...

She had ovarian cancer because of which the doctors removed both her ovaries

followed by chemo.(This was 10 years ago)

They however retained her uterus..and advised her to be on some HRT(estrogen and

progesterone ) supplements..

She responded well to the treatment and was doing well and had her regular scans

and CA-125 tests done .she was cured of ovarian cancer .(she was on HRT for

almost 8 years)

Her scan and CA 125 test showed positive results..

Some of her scan report showed the presence of gallstones..but since she did not

have pain or other discomforts ,doctors chose to ignore them.

Of late (A year ago)she used to get symptoms similar to severe acidity ...She

went for her yearly scan which showed the presence on a lesion /tumour near the

tail of the pancreas.Doctors pronounced it as cancer as well..and advised

surgery followed by chemo...

But thrugh sources we came to know that surgery of pancreas is not only risky

but also that the chemo on the pancreas is usually not very effective.

This was the time that we started to explore altenative therapies..

She was advised to stop the HRT.

She started homeo medicenes..which initially showed some regression.

but later and the lesion is back to the same size and remained that way for

almost 6 -7 months(no metastatis)

Off late she has started to get severe pain in the epigastric region...

Our homeo doctor attibutes the pain to gallstones..

She did the liver flush 3 times till now..was able to get out some gallstones..

The recent reports showed 3 gallstones remaining..and the pancreatic tumor as

the same size.

She still is suffering from severe " discomfort " (as she explains)and severe pain

all over her epigastric region and abdomen....

The pain surfaces almost every morning and lasts the full day sometimes..

On other days the pain takes the varying scale.....

we are unable to figure out if the pain is because of the gallstones or the

tumour or all combined..

Also she has started to feel because of the stopping of the estrogen and

progesterone supplements..

Is there any other alternative herbal supplements for estrogen and

progesterone????

She off late started taking wheat grass juice and follows a no meat diet(she

takes only fish and egg)..

I feel we need a whole some remedy for all her problems

HRT ,gallstones and pancreatic tumour.

Please please please ....the experts out there HELP us to get over this problem

ASAP..

PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE HELP

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Karl wrote:

> I need any help I can get. My ex wife has Pancreatic cancer and has

> trouble breathing and eating. She can't seem to keep any pills down.

> She can't even seem to take these pills that disolve in your mouth

and go through your skin. They make her puke too.

> She is on an I.V. for pain and can't travel far but is willing to go

> somewhere if it is within a couple hours. She lives by the twin

cities of Minnesota. > Thanks, Karl

>---------------------------------

Hi Karl,

Because pancreatic cancer is such a complex and difficult disease, I

would recommend that you phone Gammill, a scientist who is an

expert in both natural and conventional treatments and is director of

the non-profit center named below. He may be able to give

you information and guidance by phone that could be helpful.

It would be good to have all of the medical information you can ready

before calling him. If your ex-wife can call, that would be even better.

Here is the information needed to contact him.

Center for the Study of Natural Oncology (CSNO) (501C3 non-profit)

Gammill, Sc.D., ND, Director

Filiberto Muñoz, M.D., immunologist

437 S Hwy 101 Ste 201, Solana Beach, CA 92075 (northern San Diego area)

Phone - 858-523-9144; fax -0919

gammill @ natural-oncology.org (or vgammill @ adelphia.net)

http://www.natural-oncology.org

will also work w/patients over the phone. Free initial

consultation.

Best wishes,

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Cantron works well on Pancreatic cancer. I have several videos on the hope.

There is a Cantron group where I added a lot of info. I have also added a

lot of info on PC on the Pancreatic cancer group. you will find the info

in the files... links... and even the photo album.

pancreatic_cancer/

NONI helped my brother. HE was unable to eat for weeks. It takes a large

quanity, a bottle a day for the first four days then the next eight days a half

a bottle and then eight oz for about a month. you want to check into the

book. you can read it on line for free. what stage is she? I also have info on

the staging pc. Debbie

Karl wrote:

I need any help I can get. My ex wife has Pancreatic cancer and has

trouble breathing and eating. She can't seem to keep any pills down.

She can't even seem to take these pills that disolve in your mouth and

go through your skin. They make her puke too.

She is on an I.V. for pain and can't travel far but is willing to go

somewhere if it is within a couple hours. She lives by the twin cities

of Minnesota. Thanks Karl

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a problem with the cleanses is with stage 4 PC usually the biliary duct is

blocked by a tumor. The Organic coffee enema are great for both and pain. The

green juices every hour will stop the fluid build up in the stomach. b17 or

apricot kernels and pancreatic enzines between meals three times a day and milk

thistle for the liver which also is usually involved.

" Steve Adler wrote:

I would also do an herbal intestinal cleanse immediately followed by

several liver flushes.

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le... Possibilities:

I ran into a semi-retired orthopaedic surgeon who talked about a friend,

also a MD, who worked on pancreatic cancer very successfully in his

clinic in Mexico - his offices are in Chula Vista, CA.. Uses Ozone

therapy along with whatever needed to get the blood chemistry to fight

off the cancer - Very similar to another MD in Canada who has done this

successfully for years (his wife had pancreatic cancer ten years ago and

is still with us in good shape).

He is Dr. Bernardo Majalca, Chula Vista, 619-591-7094

Another person to talk to would be at:

The Center for the Study of Natural Oncology

437 South Highway 101, Suite 201

Solana Beach, CA 92075

office 858-523-9144

www.natural-oncology.org

Dave...

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Probably is wise to start small with the wheatgrass juice. The first

time I tried it one ounce- I got really wired. Made me scared to

try it again. Now I have a Greenstar juicer and add some to my

juice drinks and it does not have that effect on me. I would not

advise starting with this much.

Regarding the sun gazing. Look this up on the internet. You need to

do it before the sun is up too much - very early in the morning.

You could injure your eyes by not doing this right.

-Steve Adler wrote:

>I recommend the following Juice Fasting advice...

> 4 oz. fresh wheatgrass juice 4 times per day. It's gonna make him

puke for a while, but ya gotta do it!

> Fresh green vegetable juice with fresh garlic, ginger, beet, and

tumeric root juice for all other meals ONLY. Use a little bit of Granny

(only) apples to make it pallatable. Use a variety of leafy greens from Kale &

Chard, to parsley and dill, including mustard greens and dandelion. Get a

masticating twin gear juicer like the angel or green life.

> I would also have him sun gaze every morning and evening ..........

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Hi.

I would go to this site:

http://www.survivecancerfoundation.org/

and contact Bruce Guilmette immediately by phone. Bruce was diagnosed

with inoperable renal cell carcinoma several years ago, should have

been dead some time ago, but is in relatively good health from various

alternative things he is doing.

I have had several conversations with Bruce, all very helpful.

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Call at 517-676-9152 he is MI EST...he has been involved in

Cantron groups and also has a product called Zynergy and Megahydrate. He can

help you. I know one guy from the Cantron group had a sister that did well on

Cantron for her pancreatic cancer...but Zynergy might help as well...talk to

...he is very helpful. Caroline

From: Todd

My 71 yo father was just diagnosed with inoperable pancreatic cancer. Has

anyone used or do they know of any homeopathic remedies to fight this type of

cancer? Essiac? Bloodroot? anything that might help? Thanks to anyone with any

input, Todd

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Todd wrote:

> My 71 yo father was just diagnosed with inoperable pancreatic cancer.

Has anyone used or do they know of any homeopathic remedies to fight

this type of cancer? Essiac? Bloodroot? anything that might help?

>

Hi Todd,

It's possible to heal cancer through diet and healthy lifestyle changes.

You can learn more at these websites.

The two links below are places where people go to learn and experience

the healing programs using Living Raw Foods, wheatgrass juice and

healthy life practices.

Hipprocrates Institute in Florida

http://www.hippocratesinst.org/

The Optimum Health Institutes in San Diego and Austin, TX

http://optimumhealth.org/optimumhealth/

One of the easiest cancer healing plans is the one created by Dr.

Johanna Budwig. It includes both raw and cooked foods, no supplements,

just the right cancer fighting nutrition and health practices. The

Budwig Protocol is explained in the Health Group, FlaxseedOil2.

We just had a testimonial today from a man in his 60's who is healing

from liver cancer. His last ultrasound tests showed a reduction in his

tumors by 50%. And, we had a testimonial today from a woman who healed

breast cancer with mets to the bones. There are many testimonials in

the group's files, one is about a man who healed pancreatic cancer

through the Budwig plan. If the plan is followed carefully, it usually

takes about 3 to 4 months to become cancer free. That doesn't mean that

after that, the person can go back to eating fried foods and sugary

desserts. Those foods are what damage the body. Healing naturally from

cancer is a commitment to healthy living.

For pancreatic cancer, a transition diet is required to ease into the

full Budwig plan. If you join the group, ask about that so someone can

direct you to it. The people there will help you and your dad put

the diet and full plan into practice if you are both willing to do it.

FlaxSeedOil2/?yguid=108474375

You mentioned Essiac or bloodroot, I don't believe that there are any

quick fixes that allow a person to just take a supplement and heal

cancer. The testimonials that I've seen on this list and others

were from people who made major changes in diet and lifestyle.

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Hi, Todd.

Cancer is a degenerative disease, and in order to recover from it, one needs to

adopt a REgenerative way of living. Depending on how a person may have been

eating and otherwise living, that may call for a

significant overhaul.

I agree with that maintaining an unhealthful lifestyle and

taking a supplement such as bloodroot or Essiac is unlikely to be of

help. Certainly you will find, should you speak with Bruce, that he has made

serious changes in his diet and in other areas of his life.

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Todd,

In the book " The Metabolic Typing Diet " Kelley was healed of

pancreatic cancer as he practiced metabolic typing on himself and then his wife.

It is very effective to regain digestion.

Johanne

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Hi Sendogan,A very good book to read when using LDN to treat cancer is available from Amazon.com through this link:http://tinyurl.com/34fxetIt discusses LDN, diet, and other considerations.For additional information about using LDN to treat cancer, visithttp://tinyurl.com/2p57xvAll the best,Dudley Delany

dudley_delanyFrom: sendogan goksu

Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 10:53 AM

ldn

Subject: [low dose naltrexone] pancreatic cancer

hi ,

my mom is pancreatic cancer so i use vit c,omega oil,selenium,alpha lipoic acid,enoant,sweden syrup

is there any medicine to advise me?? any forgotten?

pls

warm wishes

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Do your mother use LDN? (I suppose so, but you didn't tell)

Ingrid

[low dose naltrexone] pancreatic cancer

hi , my mom is pancreatic cancer so i use vit c,omega oil,selenium,alpha lipoic acid,enoant,sweden syrup is there any medicine to advise me?? any forgotten? pls warm wishes sendogan goksu

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