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> I find that my worst is at the base of my neck - especially the left

> side. I take Morphine, Vicodin, Flexaril and many others for other

> symptoms but find that NOTHING helps with the neck pain. NOTHING

even

> touches it. I resort to the hold/cold packs, hot showers, Icy Hot,

> etc. but to no avail. Anyone else out there with this specific

> problem?

***Hi - Have you tried either massage or chiropractor?

Take care.

Bernie

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-you can get a home ultrasound unit from Canada without a prescription,

just google home ultrasound and you'll find it, been using one on my

frozen shoulder trigger points and getting massage, people working on

me say they can feel the tissue improving every time I see them

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> I find that my worst is at the base of my neck - especially the left

> side. I take Morphine, Vicodin, Flexaril and many others for other

> symptoms but find that NOTHING helps with the neck pain. NOTHING

even

> touches it. I resort to the hold/cold packs, hot showers, Icy Hot,

> etc. but to no avail. Anyone else out there with this specific

> problem?

>

> Hugs to all....

>

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: Have you seen a chiropractor for this neck pain? Can you do

self-massage of this area or is it too hard for you? I find for me chiro and

massage therapy work so well to help my stucky and frozen points. Interestingly

enough I always had neck pain and adjustments until I started taking

prescription anti-inflammatories (Voltaren) twice daily for a pulled tendon and

no more neck pain or adjustments (just everywhere else). My muscles love to get

tight and cramp up no matter how much or what kind of magnesium I add, and

massage and chiro really help. My chiro uses an old technique called Logan

Basic that really relaxes my muscles, too.

Also, FMS pain has a huge tendency to travel~sometimes it's my wrists, sometimes

it's my hips, other times my knees, right now it's the muscles between my elbow

and forearm, underneath. I am doing more stretches to try to keep them from

cramping.

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Fibro Trigger Points

I find that my worst is at the base of my neck - especially the left side. I

take Morphine, Vicodin, Flexaril and many others for other symptoms but find

that NOTHING helps with the neck pain. NOTHING even touches it. I resort to the

hold/cold packs, hot showers, Icy Hot, etc. but to no avail. Anyone else out

there with this specific problem?

Hugs to all....

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Hi ,

The best thing for me is trigger point therapy with needles. I've heard also of

trigger point

therapy with an injectable painkiller but I've not been able to afford it.

Kindest regards,

Annette

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Also, although I myself don't have FM ( " just " CFS), a friend of mine

recently had very good results from accupuncture for pain. He's

retired, from Maine, and about as far away from being a New Age-type

person as you could possibly imagine. It worked for him.

Marcia on

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> Hi ,

>

> The best thing for me is trigger point therapy with needles. I've

heard also of trigger point

> therapy with an injectable painkiller but I've not been able to

afford it.

>

> Kindest regards,

> Annette

>

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At 22:50 +0000 01/17/07, annette barclay wrote about Re:

Fibro Trigger Points:

|Hi ,

|

|The best thing for me is trigger point therapy with needles. I've

heard also of |trigger point

|therapy with an injectable painkiller but I've not been able to afford it.

I almost never post and mostly learn from your messages but I have

this website in my bookmarks that I regulary use.

I use it to treat my myofascial pain myself. There are very few

massage therapist that I know that can do a good job. I wish there

were more.

There is a wonderful website with instructions on how to lessen your pain.

http://www.mypressureproducts.com/pain_reference_chart.htm

You can order their pressure pointer

http://www.mypressureproducts.com/ but you do not have to in order to

get relief from these exercises.

You can also use a tennisbal between you and a wall or the ground the

get the pressure you need on the trigger points. Although a pressure

pointer would be more efficient.

--

Tink

Portland, OR

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No, but I strongly recommend the following; exercise/stretch your neck by means

of range of motion movemments, and have massage. FIR radiation lamp might help,

too. I had intractible pain in one foot/ankle for a zillion years and I am

astonished to find how much just stretching (and exercising it) for several

months has improved it. I am very sad, too to have not learned sooner.

Adrienne

Fibro Trigger Points

I find that my worst is at the base of my neck - especially the left

side. I take Morphine, Vicodin, Flexaril and many others for other

symptoms but find that NOTHING helps with the neck pain. NOTHING even

touches it. I resort to the hold/cold packs, hot showers, Icy Hot,

etc. but to no avail. Anyone else out there with this specific

problem?

Hugs to all....

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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Thanks so much for the suggestions. I strongly believe in

acupuncture and it does really seem to help. I " barter " with my

acupuncturist so it is not regular enough but should check into my

health coverage for it. Also, massage is wonderful but I have found

that, even with the lightest touch, a massage leaves me completely

bedridden with pain for the following two days. So sad as it helps

so much when it is happening and for a bit after.

>

> At 22:50 +0000 01/17/07, annette barclay wrote about Re:

> Fibro Trigger Points:

>

> |Hi ,

> |

> |The best thing for me is trigger point therapy with needles. I've

> heard also of |trigger point

> |therapy with an injectable painkiller but I've not been able to

afford it.

>

>

> I almost never post and mostly learn from your messages but I have

> this website in my bookmarks that I regulary use.

>

> I use it to treat my myofascial pain myself. There are very few

> massage therapist that I know that can do a good job. I wish there

> were more.

>

> There is a wonderful website with instructions on how to lessen

your pain.

> http://www.mypressureproducts.com/pain_reference_chart.htm

>

> You can order their pressure pointer

> http://www.mypressureproducts.com/ but you do not have to in order

to

> get relief from these exercises.

>

> You can also use a tennisbal between you and a wall or the ground

the

> get the pressure you need on the trigger points. Although a

pressure

> pointer would be more efficient.

>

> --

> Tink

> Portland, OR

>

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I have found that whirlpool could help without the pain that massage caused.

Also the FIR (far infrared) lamp might also be an alternative to massage. I

believe most acupuncturists have them in their office, so maybe you would find

an opportunity to try one without buying- although the cost less than $150.00 I

believe. I HATE pain. I hope you will keep trying things.

Adrienne

Re: Fibro Trigger Points

Thanks so much for the suggestions. I strongly believe in

acupuncture and it does really seem to help. I " barter " with my

acupuncturist so it is not regular enough but should check into my

health coverage for it. Also, massage is wonderful but I have found

that, even with the lightest touch, a massage leaves me completely

bedridden with pain for the following two days. So sad as it helps

so much when it is happening and for a bit after.

>

> At 22:50 +0000 01/17/07, annette barclay wrote about Re:

> Fibro Trigger Points:

>

> |Hi ,

> |

> |The best thing for me is trigger point therapy with needles. I've

> heard also of |trigger point

> |therapy with an injectable painkiller but I've not been able to

afford it.

>

>

> I almost never post and mostly learn from your messages but I have

> this website in my bookmarks that I regulary use.

>

> I use it to treat my myofascial pain myself. There are very few

> massage therapist that I know that can do a good job. I wish there

> were more.

>

> There is a wonderful website with instructions on how to lessen

your pain.

> http://www.mypressureproducts.com/pain_reference_chart.htm

>

> You can order their pressure pointer

> http://www.mypressureproducts.com/ but you do not have to in order

to

> get relief from these exercises.

>

> You can also use a tennisbal between you and a wall or the ground

the

> get the pressure you need on the trigger points. Although a

pressure

> pointer would be more efficient.

>

> --

> Tink

> Portland, OR

>

This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

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Hi Tink,

I probably should have said in my post that massage and manual manipulation of

the trigger points

makes my pain worse.

As I said the needles are the best for me.

Kindest regards,

Annette

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I have suffered from Fibro for 10 years and recently besides the use

medical society treatments. Ie. Pain meds, muscle relaxors and yes even

very effective trigger point therapy. Physical therapy and massage and

chiropractors.

Two things have really helped in addition to all the other tools I

have. First the new pain med patches are wouderful. Fentanyl ( excuse

my spelling) has been very effective for me. Plus I had my Dr.

prescribe a muscle stimulator/TENS unit that I can used at MY

convience. The EMPI (empi.com) 300pv has been a blessing as we all know

that we don't always feel like going to the doctor, chiropractor, or

even massage therapist. I can use it in the convienence of my own home

on my own schedule. For the first time in years. I can releave some of

my own symptoms, but as a cronic pain patient I have learned that more

is not always better. Take it easy if you use one of these units they

are powerful tools and can hurt you if you aren't careful.

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What is New Age about a therapy that's been around of centuries?

The U of MI did/is doing research using acupuncture for FMS pain. NIH

funding.

mjh

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Wed Jan 17, 2007 3:15 pm (PST)

Also, although I myself don't have FM ( " just " CFS), a friend of mine

recently had very good results from accupuncture for pain. He's

retired, from Maine, and about as far away from being a New Age-type

person as you could possibly imagine. It worked for him.

Marcia on

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> There is a wonderful website with instructions on how to lessen your

pain.

> http://www.mypressureproducts.com/pain_reference_chart.htm

>

Tink, thank you for this link. It has great pics of triggerpoints and

referred pain. The exercises would likely cause my triggerpoints to

worsen, I am afraid. It seems my muscles won't release. Triggerpoint

therapy thru an osteopath who does nueromuscular manipulation helps.

I am beginning to feel the muscles release, and can sometimes get

relief at home. Yeah! J

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Has anyone tried using a cane.......with the hook behind you , you can get a

really nice trigger point pressure. My doc recommended to me.

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> What is New Age about a therapy that's been around of centuries?

>

*** I did not mean to disparage the long & effective use of

accupuncture in other cultures. I was only referring to it's status in

the U.S. as an " alternative " treatment, rather than being seen as

mainstream medical practice.

M.

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