Re: Re: iodine intolerance

December 28, 2010

All of the items you listed increase metabolism or detoxing. I would concentrate on trying to clean up your "environment" and then build it up.

Steph

iodine intolerance> > > > i still cannot take iodine. even with the salt loading. i tried taking 1/2 tablet of prolamine ( 1 and 1/2 mg of iodine) twice a day and by the second day, i was in bed the whole day. could not move my head due to swelling in my right frontal sinus. every time. about to give up.>

December 29, 2010

Lithium raises BP and cause diabetes. I took this med for about 3 weeks and quit it. My sugars were always in the 70's and they shot up to 190. I don't even do sugar and the side effects of this medication for me was unacceptable. The stuff is poison. It also cause weight gain and a host of other problems. Just not worth it in my eyes. from IllinoisFrom: baxrox <baxrox@...>iodine Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 10:43:02 AMSubject: Re: iodine intolerance

How interesting! I had just read on drugs.com under "interactions" that lithium and iodine "May have synergistic hypothyroid activity; may result in hypothyroidism." (now there's a familiar caution...)

But your post had me curious and a quick search for lithium and iodine brought up this result where it talks about the combination of lithium and radioactive iodine being used for thyroid cancer: http://medicalcenter.osu.edu/PatientEd/Materials/PDFDocs/dis-cond/cancer/lithium-iodine-therapy.pdf.

Certainly not suggesting anyone use radioactive iodine!! ... just an observation about the role of lithium combined with iodine, how it is described to help iodine stay present in the body longer.

Dr. has an excellent write up about Lithium Orotate on his website for those wanting more information about this mineral.

> >>

> >>>

> >>> i still cannot take iodine. even with the salt loading. i tried taking

> >>> 1/2 tablet of prolamine ( 1 and 1/2 mg of iodine) twice a day and by the

> >>> second day, i was in bed the whole day. could not move my head due to

> >>> swelling in my right frontal sinus. every time. about to give up.

> >>>

> >>

> >

>

December 29, 2010

Synthetic lithium, yet.Â But not Lithium Orotate.Be WellDr.L From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of DeNormandieSent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:14 AMiodine Subject: Re: Re: iodine intolerance Lithium raises BP and cause diabetes. I took this med for about 3 weeks and quit it. My sugars were always in the 70's and they shot up to 190. I don't even do sugar and the side effects of this medication for me was unacceptable. The stuff is poison. It also cause weight gain and a host of other problems. Just not worth it in my eyes. from Illinois From: baxrox <baxrox@...>iodine Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 10:43:02 AMSubject: Re: iodine intolerance How interesting! I had just read on drugs.com under " interactions " that lithium and iodine " May have synergistic hypothyroid activity; may result in hypothyroidism. " (now there's a familiar caution...)But your post had me curious and a quick search for lithium and iodine brought up this result where it talks about the combination of lithium and radioactive iodine being used for thyroid cancer: http://medicalcenter.osu.edu/PatientEd/Materials/PDFDocs/dis-cond/cancer/lithium-iodine-therapy.pdf.Certainly not suggesting anyone use radioactive iodine!! ... just an observation about the role of lithium combined with iodine, how it is described to help iodine stay present in the body longer.Dr. has an excellent write up about Lithium Orotate on his website for those wanting more information about this mineral.> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> i still cannot take iodine. even with the salt loading. i tried taking> >>> 1/2 tablet of prolamine ( 1 and 1/2 mg of iodine) twice a day and by the> >>> second day, i was in bed the whole day. could not move my head due to> >>> swelling in my right frontal sinus. every time. about to give up.> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > >>

December 29, 2010

Thank you for correcting me on that. The synthetic crap is nothing but evil. I quit taking conventional medicine. I would love to get off my Pentasa but I haven't been able to tolerate LDN. LDN is like liquid speed. Kills my stomach, I'm in the bathroom for hours with watery stool, I usually am anyways, but this was far more worse and then I starting vomiting. I even started out at .25 of a ml. I may try again decreasing the dose further down. I want LDN to work so maybe I can get off the Pentasa. But I refuse to be bouncing off the walls when I do that pretty much on my own.But what a buzz. Unlimited energy and the sweating was awful too. Just my luck. Thank God iodoral doesn't do that too me. from IllinoisFrom: Dr. Loretta Lanphier <drlanphier@...>iodine Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 11:33:29 AMSubject: RE: Re: iodine intolerance

Synthetic lithium, yet. But not Lithium Orotate.Be WellDr.L From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of DeNormandieSent: Wednesday, December 29, 2010 11:14 AMiodine Subject: Re: Re: iodine intolerance Lithium raises BP and cause diabetes. I took this med for about 3 weeks and quit it. My sugars were always in the 70's and they shot up to 190. I don't even do sugar and the side effects of this medication for me was unacceptable. The stuff is poison. It also cause weight gain and a host of other problems. Just not worth it in my

eyes. from Illinois From: baxrox

<baxrox@...>iodine Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 10:43:02 AMSubject: Re: iodine intolerance How interesting! I had just read on drugs.com under "interactions" that lithium and iodine "May have synergistic hypothyroid activity; may result in hypothyroidism." (now there's a familiar caution...)But your post had me curious and a quick search for lithium and iodine brought up this result where it talks about the combination of lithium and radioactive iodine being used for thyroid cancer: http://medicalcenter.osu.edu/PatientEd/Materials/PDFDocs/dis-cond/cancer/lithium-iodine-therapy.pdf.Certainly not suggesting anyone use radioactive iodine!! ... just an observation about the role of lithium combined with iodine, how it is described to help iodine stay present in the body longer.Dr. has an excellent write up about Lithium Orotate on his website for those wanting more information about this mineral.> >>> >>>> >>>> >>> i still cannot take iodine. even with the salt loading. i tried taking> >>> 1/2 tablet of prolamine ( 1 and 1/2 mg of iodine) twice a day and by the> >>> second day, i was in bed the whole day. could not move my head due to> >>> swelling in my right frontal sinus. every time. about to give up.> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >> > > >>

December 29, 2010

Fresh Celery! http://www.highbloodpressureinfo.org/benefit-of-celery.htmlhttp://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice & dbid=14http://www.thebloodpressureguide.com/effects-of-celery-on-blood-pressure.htmLinnOn Dec 29, 2010, at 12:05 PM, coloredoctave wrote:

Gracie,

You need potassium. I would eat tablespoons of raw honey, starting now, until you can't stand it. Taking apple cider vinegar with that will help your body assimilate the vitamins and minerals better. This is a Dr. Jarvis remedy.

I have been using Transdermal Magnesium sublingually, like someone posted here and I find it to be an efficient way to up my mg.

Synthetic potassium isn't an option, needs to be natural.

Joan

> >>>>>

> >>>>>>i still cannot take iodine. even with the salt loading. i tried

> >>>>>>taking 1/2 tablet of prolamine ( 1 and 1/2 mg of iodine) twice a day

> >>>>>>and by the second day, i was in bed the whole day. could not move my

> >>>>>>head due to swelling in my right frontal sinus. every time. about to

> >>>>>>give up.

> >>>>>>

> >>>>>

> >>

>

December 29, 2010

This topic is moving away from iodine; please take it to the IodineOTGroup, thank you. Kathleen

Re: iodine intolerance

Gracie,You need potassium. I would eat tablespoons of raw honey, starting now, until you can't stand it. Taking apple cider vinegar with that will help your body assimilate the vitamins and minerals better. This is a Dr. Jarvis remedy.I have been using Transdermal Magnesium sublingually, like someone posted here and I find it to be an efficient way to up my mg. Synthetic potassium isn't an option, needs to be natural.Joan > >>>>>> >>>>> > >>>>>>i still cannot take iodine. even with the salt loading. i tried > >>>>>>taking 1/2 tablet of prolamine ( 1 and 1/2 mg of iodine) twice a day > >>>>>>and by the second day, i was in bed the whole day. could not move my > >>>>>>head due to swelling in my right frontal sinus. every time. about to > >>>>>>give up.> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>> >>>

December 29, 2010

I can second the recommendation for apple cider vinegar being helpful

for lowering blood pressure. It's my bottom number that's always

somewhere in the 90s. Despite all the cleaning up of diet and lifestyle

I've accomplished in 5 years, acv seems to be the only thing that really

works. The only problem for me is I can't stand the smell or taste of

it. I got a small pyrex measurer that holds 2 ounces and use it for

shots. First shot water, second shot acv, 3-5 water. This makes a

combined total of one cup.

I've been using unrefined salt for well over a year now. I did not

observe that it helped my bp improve at all.

Jana

On 12/29/2010 12:05 PM, coloredoctave wrote:

> Gracie,

>

> You need potassium. I would eat tablespoons of raw honey, starting now, until

you can't stand it. Taking apple cider vinegar with that will help your body

assimilate the vitamins and minerals better. This is a Dr. Jarvis remedy.

>

> I have been using Transdermal Magnesium sublingually, like someone posted here

and I find it to be an efficient way to up my mg.

>

> Synthetic potassium isn't an option, needs to be natural.

>

> Joan

>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> i still cannot take iodine. even with the salt loading. i tried

>>>>>>>> taking 1/2 tablet of prolamine ( 1 and 1/2 mg of iodine) twice a day

>>>>>>>> and by the second day, i was in bed the whole day. could not move my

>>>>>>>> head due to swelling in my right frontal sinus. every time. about to

>>>>>>>> give up.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

> All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group

IodineOT/

>

> Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

December 29, 2010

Please take this discussion to the IodineOTGroup. Link is provided at the bottom of this email. thank you. Kathleen

Re: iodine intolerance

Very interesting ! I vary the honey I use with ACV . Organic Buckwheat is very special and relaxes me considerably. High in minerals says the beekeeper.Be well,> > > >>>>>> > > >>>>> > > > >>>>>>i still cannot take iodine. even with the salt loading. i tried > > > >>>>>>taking 1/2 tablet of prolamine ( 1 and 1/2 mg of iodine) twice a day > > > >>>>>>and by the second day, i was in bed the whole day. could not move my > > > >>>>>>head due to swelling in my right frontal sinus. every time. about to > > > >>>>>>give up.> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>>> > > >>>>>> > > >>> > > >>> > >> > > >>

December 29, 2010

I take lithium orotate-- it is a targeted tiny dose compared with the

lithium supplements given in the psych world. The orotate takes it

directly into the cells. Lithium is actually an essential mineral. It

removes toxins from the brain, both from the outside (such as aluminum and

other heavy metals) and toxic metabolites from healthy brain function

(leftover products from brain functions). Dr suggests this tiny

dose to prevent Alzheimer's and dementia-- the studies he cites are

amazing. Since I've been taking it, my brain fog is a thing of the past in

a new way. Iodine cleared it, but lithium has been crystallizing my

abilities. I make my living as a kind of technical writer, so I'm very

aware of changes in my cognitive processes.

Oh-- And it's never had a negative effect on my thyroid function (I have

Hashi's). In fact, I've lost 20 or more pounds without really trying,

because my thyroid/metabolism is finally adequately treated (iodine

protocol, adrenal support).

http://www.tahomaclinic.com/lithium1.shtml

http://intelegen.com/nutrients/lithium.htm

--

At 10:43 AM 12/29/2010, you wrote:

>How interesting! I had just read on drugs.com under " interactions " that

>lithium and iodine " May have synergistic hypothyroid activity; may result

>in hypothyroidism. " (now there's a familiar caution...)

>

>But your post had me curious and a quick search for lithium and iodine

>brought up this result where it talks about the combination of lithium and

>radioactive iodine being used for thyroid

>cancer:

>http://medicalcenter.osu.edu/PatientEd/Materials/PDFDocs/dis-cond/cancer/lithiu\

m-iodine-therapy.pdf.

>

>Certainly not suggesting anyone use radioactive iodine!! ... just an

>observation about the role of lithium combined with iodine, how it is

>described to help iodine stay present in the body longer.

>

>Dr. has an excellent write up about Lithium Orotate on his

>website for those wanting more information about this mineral.

>

> > >>

> > >>>

> > >>> i still cannot take iodine. even with the salt loading. i tried taking

> > >>> 1/2 tablet of prolamine ( 1 and 1/2 mg of iodine) twice a day and

> by the

> > >>> second day, i was in bed the whole day. could not move my head due to

> > >>> swelling in my right frontal sinus. every time. about to give up.

> > >>>

> > >>

> > >

> >

>

>------------------------------------

>

>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

>group IodineOT/

>

>Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

December 29, 2010

Here is the site I was trying to find and couldn't:

http://mysite.verizon.net/res003jh/lithium-orotate/id13.html

As I said, I feel the lithium orotate (10mg elemental iodine per day, some

people only take 5mg) has been an important adjunct to the iodine protocol,

for me. The reason it helps people as a psych drug, it seems, is because

it clears the brain of toxins, both naturally occurring and from the outside.

Dr has been prescribing this tiny dose of lithium since the 1970s as

an anti-aging supplement. I found out about it here on this list.

--

At 05:29 PM 12/29/2010, you wrote:

>I take lithium orotate-- it is a targeted tiny dose compared with the

>lithium supplements given in the psych world. The orotate takes it

>directly into the cells. Lithium is actually an essential mineral. It

>removes toxins from the brain, both from the outside (such as aluminum and

>other heavy metals) and toxic metabolites from healthy brain function

>(leftover products from brain functions). Dr suggests this tiny

>dose to prevent Alzheimer's and dementia-- the studies he cites are

>amazing. Since I've been taking it, my brain fog is a thing of the past in

>a new way. Iodine cleared it, but lithium has been crystallizing my

>abilities. I make my living as a kind of technical writer, so I'm very

>aware of changes in my cognitive processes.

>

>Oh-- And it's never had a negative effect on my thyroid function (I have

>Hashi's). In fact, I've lost 20 or more pounds without really trying,

>because my thyroid/metabolism is finally adequately treated (iodine

>protocol, adrenal support).

>

>http://www.tahomaclinic.com/lithium1.shtml

>

>http://intelegen.com/nutrients/lithium.htm

>

>--

>

>At 10:43 AM 12/29/2010, you wrote:

> >How interesting! I had just read on drugs.com under " interactions " that

> >lithium and iodine " May have synergistic hypothyroid activity; may result

> >in hypothyroidism. " (now there's a familiar caution...)

> >

> >But your post had me curious and a quick search for lithium and iodine

> >brought up this result where it talks about the combination of lithium and

> >radioactive iodine being used for thyroid

> >cancer:

> >http://medicalcenter.osu.edu/PatientEd/Materials/PDFDocs/dis-cond/cancer/

> lithium-iodine-therapy.pdf.

> >

> >Certainly not suggesting anyone use radioactive iodine!! ... just an

> >observation about the role of lithium combined with iodine, how it is

> >described to help iodine stay present in the body longer.

> >

> >Dr. has an excellent write up about Lithium Orotate on his

> >website for those wanting more information about this mineral.

> >

> > > >>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> i still cannot take iodine. even with the salt loading. i tried

> taking

> > > >>> 1/2 tablet of prolamine ( 1 and 1/2 mg of iodine) twice a day and

> > by the

> > > >>> second day, i was in bed the whole day. could not move my head due to

> > > >>> swelling in my right frontal sinus. every time. about to give up.

> > > >>>

> > > >>

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >------------------------------------

> >

> >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

> >group IodineOT/

> >

> >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

December 29, 2010

Lithium is one of those minerals that is hard to obtain from food because

of demineralization of the soils-- but you can search the net for

info. Unlike some people, I prefer to have a baseline of certain

supplements because of this problem. Absolutely, biochemistry influences

intellectual ability.

I'm interested to hear the results of your further tests. How much iodine

are you taking per day? And are you doing the other companion supplements?

--

At 06:05 PM 12/29/2010, you wrote:

>Hello ,

> I also work with my mind and notice how my biochemistry influences my

> intellectual abilities. I have never had any good long term results with

> ginkgo, however, so far vinpocetine has been better.

>

> Can lithium can be obtained from food sources ? And will it give

> results similar to taking it as a supp ?

>

> I am after clarity of thought and ability to synthesize information.

> Vitamin D, I must say, seems to be helping. I have started slowly with

> painting tincture of iodine on my foot 3 days on / 3 days off... that is

> strangely very powerful. Since my thyroid meds have been cut in half, I

> will be taking another blood test shortly. Normally I only undergo bloods

> once a year. Should be interesting. This time the iodine/iodide which

> will factor in may influence the results.

>

> Be well,

>

> > > > >>

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>> i still cannot take iodine. even with the salt loading. i tried

> taking

> > > > >>> 1/2 tablet of prolamine ( 1 and 1/2 mg of iodine) twice a day and

> > > by the

> > > > >>> second day, i was in bed the whole day. could not move my head

> due to

> > > > >>> swelling in my right frontal sinus. every time. about to give up.

> > > > >>>

> > > > >>

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >------------------------------------

> > >

> > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

> > >group IodineOT/

> > >

> > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

December 29, 2010

Since i have gone gluten free that cleared the brain fog. You may want to try that. It has helped me. Also cleared up the depression and skin problems.Just a suggestion. from IllinoisFrom: <r_long@...>iodine Sent: Wed, December 29, 2010 6:05:54 PMSubject: Re: iodine intolerance

Hello ,

I also work with my mind and notice how my biochemistry influences my intellectual abilities. I have never had any good long term results with ginkgo, however, so far vinpocetine has been better.

Can lithium can be obtained from food sources ? And will it give results similar to taking it as a supp ?

I am after clarity of thought and ability to synthesize information. Vitamin D, I must say, seems to be helping. I have started slowly with painting tincture of iodine on my foot 3 days on / 3 days off... that is strangely very powerful. Since my thyroid meds have been cut in half, I will be taking another blood test shortly. Normally I only undergo bloods once a year. Should be interesting. This time the iodine/iodide which will factor in may influence the results.

Be well,

> > > >>

> > > >>>

> > > >>> i still cannot take iodine. even with the salt loading. i tried taking

> > > >>> 1/2 tablet of prolamine ( 1 and 1/2 mg of iodine) twice a day and

> > by the

> > > >>> second day, i was in bed the whole day. could not move my head due to

> > > >>> swelling in my right frontal sinus. every time. about to give up.

> > > >>>

> > > >>

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >------------------------------------

> >

> >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

> >group IodineOT/

> >

> >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

December 29, 2010

Ok, . Just be aware that we strongly suggest milligram doses of

iodine and the full amount of selenium.

--

At 08:16 PM 12/29/2010, you wrote:

>Hello ,

> I am doing all of the companion supps except that my Selenium

> consumption is only 55 mcg. in the form of a supp.

> I do not mesure my iodine/iodide for now. I am really loading up on

> Vitamin D and its being monitored by blood tests. I want to reach 55 to

> 60 ng/ml. That means my body is processing a lot and so I will focus more

> on iodine/iodide after my Vit D level is where I want it.

> Right now I paint a 3 " diameter patch on my foot with an iodine/iodide

> tincture of 2.5 and 2.5 % respectively. I do this 3 days then wait 3 days

> to begin again. I know that sounds slow at best: just getting my feet wet

> for now. Its amazingly powerful tho and I notice a difference. Oh, I take

> a multi that has 150 mcg of potassium iodide with that.

> As for Lithium, for now I will settle for my daily serving of

> Concentrace trace minerals which contains 395 mcg.

>

> I look forward to my new bloods which may reflect my current

> consumption of iodine/iodide (albeit its a small quantity.)

>

> Be well,

>

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > >>> i still cannot take iodine. even with the salt loading. i

> tried

> > > taking

> > > > > > >>> 1/2 tablet of prolamine ( 1 and 1/2 mg of iodine) twice a

> day and

> > > > > by the

> > > > > > >>> second day, i was in bed the whole day. could not move my head

> > > due to

> > > > > > >>> swelling in my right frontal sinus. every time. about to

> give up.

> > > > > > >>>

> > > > > > >>

> > > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >------------------------------------

> > > > >

> > > > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

> > > > >group IodineOT/

> > > > >

> > > > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

> Groups Links

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> > > > --A.J. Muste

> > > >

> > >

> > >------------------------------------

> > >

> > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

> > >group IodineOT/

> > >

> > >Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

December 30, 2010

How much lithium do you take, ? I was taking it for awhile but backed off due to what I thought were potential thyroid interactions.

Thanks,

BarbF

In a message dated 12/29/2010 6:30:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, vbaker@... writes:

I take lithium orotate-- it is a targeted tiny dose compared with the lithium supplements given in the psych world. The orotate takes it directly into the cells. Lithium is actually an essential mineral. It removes toxins from the brain, both from the outside (such as aluminum and other heavy metals) and toxic metabolites from healthy brain function (leftover products from brain functions). Dr suggests this tiny dose to prevent Alzheimer's and dementia-- the studies he cites are amazing. Since I've been taking it, my brain fog is a thing of the past in a new way. Iodine cleared it, but lithium has been crystallizing my abilities. I make my living as a kind of technical writer, so I'm very aware of changes in my cognitive processes.Oh-- And it's never had a negative effect on my thyroid function (I have Hashi's). In fact, I've lost 20 or more pounds without really trying, because my thyroid/metabolism is finally adequately treated (iodine protocol, adrenal support).http://www.tahomaclinic.com/lithium1.shtmlhttp://intelegen.com/nutrients/lithium.htm--At 10:43 AM 12/29/2010, you wrote:>How interesting! I had just read on drugs.com under "interactions" that >lithium and iodine "May have synergistic hypothyroid activity; may result >in hypothyroidism." (now there's a familiar caution...)>>But your post had me curious and a quick search for lithium and iodine >brought up this result where it talks about the combination of lithium and >radioactive iodine being used for thyroid >cancer: >http://medicalcenter.osu.edu/PatientEd/Materials/PDFDocs/dis-cond/cancer/lithium-iodine-therapy.pdf.>>Certainly not suggesting anyone use radioactive iodine!! ... just an >observation about the role of lithium combined with iodine, how it is >described to help iodine stay present in the body longer.>>Dr. has an excellent write up about Lithium Orotate on his >website for those wanting more information about this mineral.>>> > >>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> i still cannot take iodine. even with the salt loading. i tried taking> > >>> 1/2 tablet of prolamine ( 1 and 1/2 mg of iodine) twice a day and > by the> > >>> second day, i was in bed the whole day. could not move my head due to> > >>> swelling in my right frontal sinus. every time. about to give up.> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> >>>>>>------------------------------------>>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/>>>Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

December 30, 2010

Barb-- I take 10mg of elemental lithium a day. I would believe that the

pharmaceutical levels of lithium supplementation could interfere with

thyroid, but not such a low amount. In my case my hypothyroid has vastly

improved (based on my symptoms) and I've lost a lot of weight. I had also

developed what are for me heavy calluses on my heels and elbows, and those

have disappeared now. So I know that my thyroid function is better than

ever. I'm not saying my own thyroid is working, but the combination of

supplements, including the iodine protocol and 3 grains of NatureThroid a

day, has finally kicked in and given me back the kind of metabolism I had

as a child.

--V

At 08:01 AM 12/30/2010, you wrote:

>How much lithium do you take, ? I was taking it for awhile but

>backed off due to what I thought were potential thyroid interactions.

>Thanks,

>BarbF

>

>In a message dated 12/29/2010 6:30:17 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,

>vbaker@... writes: