Re: Selenium poisoning - garlic breath

January 9, 2010

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I've been taking selenium for quite a while now, 400 mg. daily, eat lots of eggs, love Brazil nuts, have never noticed any negative effects/garlic breath....

Blessings, Margaret"We are not held back by the love we didn't receive in the past, but by the love we're not extending in the present." nne on

January 9, 2010

Thanks Bruce, I've tested my sons PH with urine strips and usually it's in the

6's which I know is too low. But it's usually based on what they've eaten, one

child I can get to eat good, but the other, the one in question, doesn't eat

good and actually loves red meat which will put the body in an acid state. So,

will supplements alone with a half ideal diet correct the PH?

He is a picky eater and has to be forced to eat good foods.

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> > > How much was being taken?

> > >

> > > Bruce

> > >

> > > Selenium poisoning - garlic breath

> > >

> > > My 7yo had a garlic breath on Sunday and then my 10yo had a garlic

breath today. So, I went online to search about garlic breath symptoms and

selenium came up. Well, since starting the iodine, I've been giving selenium

with the iodine.

> > >

> > > I found a list of symptoms of selenium poisoning here...

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/s/selenium_poisoning/symptoms.htm

> > >

> > > I'm thinking this is it because it's the only thing I've done lately

that they have in common. We've had garlic smelling breath before and I've asked

the doc about it and she didn't know. I've given them selenium in the past

because of something I've read, but it wasn't much and I didn't link it to the

supplements.

> > >

> > > Could someone give me some advice?

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> >

>

January 9, 2010

Interesting that you describe

garlic breath. In my family and other’s we are close to that I can ask

without offending, when we get what I call pickle breath – smells like

they just ate 2-3 big kosher dills, and they haven’t – it is a precursor

to a sinus infection. My husband, before he found out all his allergies, would

get a sinus infection every other month like clockwork. I finally noticed that

the day before he got one, his breath smelled like pickles. Since he has dealt

with his allergies, he doesn’t get infections often, but every once in a

while he has that smell, and I immediately tell him, and we do preventative

treatment, and he doesn’t get them, I think because he caught them in

advance.

Maybe this is the same type of

thing, since pickles have lots of garlic anyway, and they are fighting something.

Donna in IL

My 7yo had a garlic breath on Sunday and then

my 10yo had a garlic breath today. So, I went online to search about garlic

breath symptoms and selenium came up. Well, since starting the iodine, I've

been giving selenium with the iodine.

January 9, 2010

Which form of Selenium are you using? I think the Selenite form may

build up more quickly than the organic form. Is it possible that you've

got good levels of selenium already in the foods that you're eating?

Does the supplement smell bad to them - it seems to be one of the

supplements that as you reach good levels in the body the smell gets

stronger to you - hard to describe, but sort of snot-like, heading into

the garlic range. Do they have any other symptoms indicating that their

levels are going too high?

I would ask them to smell the supplement before dosing and only give it

if they can't smell it, or it smells pleasant to them. The other thing

to work on would be why it is building up in the body instead of being

used up - probably need a biochemistry class for that.

Gail

> Selenium poisoning - garlic breath

>

> My 7yo had a garlic breath on Sunday and then my 10yo had a garlic

breath today. So, I went online to search about garlic breath symptoms

and selenium came up. Well, since starting the iodine, I've been giving

selenium with the iodine.

>

> I found a list of symptoms of selenium poisoning here...

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/s/selenium_poisoning/symptoms.htm

>

> I'm thinking this is it because it's the only thing I've done lately

that they have in common. We've had garlic smelling breath before and

I've asked the doc about it and she didn't know. I've given them

selenium in the past because of something I've read, but it wasn't much

and I didn't link it to the supplements.

>

> Could someone give me some advice?

>

> Thanks.

>

January 9, 2010

What form of selenium is it? l-selenomethonine or some other form of inorganic

selenium?

> >

> > How much was being taken?

> >

> > Bruce

> >

> > Selenium poisoning - garlic breath

> >

> > My 7yo had a garlic breath on Sunday and then my 10yo had a garlic breath

today. So, I went online to search about garlic breath symptoms and selenium

came up. Well, since starting the iodine, I've been giving selenium with the

iodine.

> >

> > I found a list of symptoms of selenium poisoning here...

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/s/selenium_poisoning/symptoms.htm

> >

> > I'm thinking this is it because it's the only thing I've done lately that

they have in common. We've had garlic smelling breath before and I've asked the

doc about it and she didn't know. I've given them selenium in the past because

of something I've read, but it wasn't much and I didn't link it to the

supplements.

> >

> > Could someone give me some advice?

> >

> > Thanks.

> >

>

January 9, 2010

The same thing with my kids- it always means a sinus infection is starting.

January 9, 2010

Well, there are four of us in my family who recently learned

that our ferritin levels are low. Doctor noted the deficiency (severe in

one case and moderate in three) and did nothing about it. So we are on

our own. I’m not going to ignore something that has one of my

daughters blacking out just because my doctor chooses to ignore it. I

asked him about low iron possibly being the cause of several of her problems a

year ago and he gave me a song and dance about getting enough sleep (she has

insomnia and sleeps very lightly), eating well and drinking enough water.

While I appreciate the approach that does not rush to write a prescription, I

don’t appreciate that he ignored my suspicion and my daughter was undiagnosed

for a year because of it. Now that she is diagnosed, as I expected, he’s

doing nothing about it. So I will be taking things in my own hands and

working on building up her ferritin levels myself. At least I know he

will order the tests I want (finally) so I will monitor every month or so until

I see what’s happening.

What do you mean by “true condition”? What’s

scary about iron supplementation? Just about anything can be overdone

with serious consequences.

Pamela

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iodine

Subject: RE: Selenium poisoning - garlic breath

Heck, I'm male, so it's unlikely.

If a true condition were to occur, I'd be under medical supervision

for it.

Look it up, it's scary. Not to be trifled with.

January 10, 2010

Low iron is often associated with Celiac Disease or gluten intolerance. They haven't figured out why yet. I got mine back up via cooking in my grandmother's cast iron cookware. I still have to supplement vitamin B 12 and folic acid though as they are essential to process the iron. Just something to think about. There is a connection between thyroid issues and gluten issues. Tressler Healthy Transitions Life Coaching 541-791-1464 Help raise funds for Legacy Land Conservancy by searching the internet or shoping online with GoodSearch (www.goodsearch.com).

January 10, 2010

I suffer from Polycythemia Vera, and for at least 5 years now I have undergone

frequent bloodlettings (phlebotomies, to use the proper technical jargon) in

order to attempt to periodically normalize my out of control bone marrows

prodigious production of blood cells, and bring my blood thickness (cells vs.

fluid volume) down so I don't have blood clots, strokes, heart attacks, etc....

Since I get blood removed sometimes at the rate of a pint every 2 weeks, I

probably don't have much iron left at all. In fact, since iron is a prime

requirement in order for the bone marrow to produce red blood cells, and since

one object of my treatment (phlebotomy) is to reduce their production, for me it

is actually highly desirable that I remain in a constant state of major iron

deficiency.

>

> Low iron is often associated with Celiac Disease or gluten intolerance. They

haven't figured out why yet. I got mine back up via cooking in my grandmother's

cast iron cookware. I still have to supplement vitamin B 12 and folic acid

though as they are essential to process the iron. Just something to think

about. There is a connection between thyroid issues and gluten issues.

>

> Tressler

> Healthy Transitions Life Coaching

> 541-791-1464

>

> Help raise funds for Legacy Land Conservancy by searching the internet or

shoping online with GoodSearch (www.goodsearch.com).

>

January 10, 2010

My doc tested me for gluten sensitivity and I came up negative. Can this be

trusted? --

>Low iron is often associated with Celiac Disease or gluten

>intolerance. They haven't figured out why yet. I got mine back up via

>cooking in my grandmother's cast iron cookware. I still have to

>supplement vitamin B 12 and folic acid though as they are essential to

>process the iron. Just something to think about. There is a connection

>between thyroid issues and gluten issues.

>

> Tressler

>Healthy Transitions Life Coaching

>541-791-1464

>

>Help raise funds for Legacy Land Conservancy by searching the internet or

>shoping online with GoodSearch (www.goodsearch.com).

>

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January 15, 2010

It is l-selenomethionine. Country Life, 100 mcg. I responded the other day to

your post, but was reading the responses and see that mine didn't post.

> > >

> > > How much was being taken?

> > >

> > > Bruce

> > >

> > > Selenium poisoning - garlic breath

> > >

> > > My 7yo had a garlic breath on Sunday and then my 10yo had a garlic

breath today. So, I went online to search about garlic breath symptoms and

selenium came up. Well, since starting the iodine, I've been giving selenium

with the iodine.

> > >

> > > I found a list of symptoms of selenium poisoning here...

http://www.wrongdiagnosis.com/s/selenium_poisoning/symptoms.htm

> > >

> > > I'm thinking this is it because it's the only thing I've done lately

that they have in common. We've had garlic smelling breath before and I've asked

the doc about it and she didn't know. I've given them selenium in the past

because of something I've read, but it wasn't much and I didn't link it to the

supplements.

> > >

> > > Could someone give me some advice?

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> >

>

February 25, 2011

The more common reason for 98% apparent saturation rate is the false high

reading caused by high bromide readings. This is covered in the New Member

Document.

Dr Brownstein does not say these things in his Iodine book (about not

starting iodine until minerals are clinically balanced, being supervised,

etc.), which was recently revised so the book reflects his most current

thinking.

There are other instances of Dr Brownstein articles out on the web that

were written before he knew what he knows now. I do not believe that he

still thinks the same way, and I'd be willing to bet that article (which is

not dated) was written a while back.

--

At 11:39 PM 1/8/2010, you wrote:

>More on prep, here he isn't referring to a loading test with no retention,

>but in other places he has and also mentioned the vit c before continuing

>to repair the situation of not absorbing the iodine.

>

> " As with magnesium, it is best to use Vitamin C before beginning iodine

>supplementation.

>

>My experience has also shown that proper mineral support also aids iodine

>supplementation. Testing for mineral deficiencies and correcting these

>deficiencies before instituting iodine supplementation leads to the best

>results. I frequently have my patients measure their pH levels. If an

>acidic condition is present, correcting the pH imbalance before beginning

>iodine therapy is the correct way to go. How do you correct a pH

>imbalance? Eating whole foods, eliminating refined foods, beginning

>mineral supplementation including magnesium can all help the situation.

>Iodine itself is also an alkalinizing agent for the body.

>

>Summary

>If one is found to be iodine deficient, it is best to correct other

>nutrient imbalances before instituting iodine supplementation. Proper

>dosing of magnesium, Vitamin C and minerals will maximize the response to

>iodine. Before beginning any nutritional program, the best results can be

>achieved when working with a health care practitioner skilled in the use

>of natural agents. "

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>Dr Brownstein

>

>Bruce

>

> Selenium poisoning - garlic breath

> > >

> > > My 7yo had a garlic breath on Sunday and then my 10yo had a garlic

> breath today. So, I went online to search about garlic breath symptoms

> and selenium came up. Well, since starting the iodine, I've been giving

> selenium with the iodine.

> > >

> > > I found a list of symptoms of selenium poisoning here...

>

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gdiagnosis.com/s/selenium_poisoning/symptoms.htm

> > >

> > > I'm thinking this is it because it's the only thing I've done lately

> that they have in common. We've had garlic smelling breath before and

> I've asked the doc about it and she didn't know. I've given them selenium

> in the past because of something I've read, but it wasn't much and I

> didn't link it to the supplements.

> > >

> > > Could someone give me some advice?

> > >

> > > Thanks.

> > >

> >

>

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February 25, 2011

woops-- sorry somehow an old email showed up in my current box and I

responded to it. It's out of the blue and probably best ignored. --