I don't agree with everything in your response, but I do agree that
most soy is not helpful and most is not processed correctly.
However, there is Soy protein isolate that is made a safe, correct
way and which gives very high nutritional protein/amino acids. This
powdered form is very helpful in detoxifying and helping those who
need protein. Many people, especially our teens, are carb-holics
and do not get enough protein for their body which is trying to grow
The company that makes this form spends millions on research and
development to prove that their products are clean from
contaminants, work, and are safe. Also, the doctor that we use for
my daughter has done a lot of studies and testing himself as he
worked in a Chiropractic teaching school and is a PhD in bio
nutritional chemistry. So there are companies out there with real
scientific studies and real results for their products. At the
moment I am only using the things they make for my daughter as her
system is toxic, low thyroid, fatigued adrenals, etc. I try to get
everything for myself from them as well, but they do not have iodine
and other ingredients we need. Our doctor does recommend and advise
to use Iodoral... His method is to take is slowly and steadily so
as not to overwhelm the body all at one time.
If you are going to use soy, I think it must be organic and
cultured, such as tofu. OR use the highly tested and safely
processed Soy protein isolate....
On 2/5/2011 10:10 AM, Linn wrote:
It's not just the interference with T4 conversion you
need to be worried about. Soybeans have the highest
levels of phytic acid of any legume which upsets mineral
uptake, iron, magnesium, calcium and especially zinc that
are responsible for dozens of cell life functions.
Mineral deficiencies are the cause of numerous diseases.
Zinc controls iron uptake, without it, high levels of
iron can build up which harms the liver. The high levels
of enzyme inhibitors, which are not removed by processing,
block digestion not only of the soy product but of
whatever else is eaten.
Soy contains a less commonly known contaminant,
hemaglutin, which is a clot causing agent. It causes red
cells to clump together and compromises the oxygen supply
to the body, particularly bad for anyone with heart issues
or cancer. High temperature processing does not remove
Soy is high in aluminum and a by-product of one of the
steps of processing, alkaline soaking, is a known
Soy protein isolate is a highly processed product and
totally devoid of nutrients, ending up an artificial,
devitalized commercial food. Soy protein is a by-product
of soybean oil processing and it's big business, DuPont
for one. It's a waste product made from an extremely
processed food source, successfully advertised to be a
health food. The soybean is one of America's largest
crops, we're talking billions of dollars annually. It's
byproducts are money makers, not health foods. Soy is
contained in a lot of items where you may not even think
you're eating, items labeled with vegetable flavoring,
natural flavoring, vegetable shortening, hydrolyzed
protein, textured vegetable protein, etc. Then there's
the issue of genetic modification of an already
problematic "food" and Monsanto issues with owning the
patent on the GM soybean plus the herbicide RoundUp. They
make money both ways plus they control the small farmers.
I won't even go into the issues here. We're talking
major money players here, DuPont, Monsanto, Dow Chemical,
who don't give a damn about your health or mine. This is
major marketing hype at it's best to protect billions of
dollars of income.
The science/health writer from Huffington Post article
cites no references to back up claims made that "may" be
helpful. We've all been sold a bill of goods regarding
soy. Look at info that can give you reference material
for the claims. Here's a great place to start:http://www.thedoctor...soy/Magic-Bean/
Do you mind sharing what the product is?
On Feb 5, 2011, at 9:18 AM, marcyzram wrote:
I've been doing lots of research into soy,
because some friends who have had miraculous
cures and reversals with a particular product
are inviting me to take it. It is soy-based!
>From what I can tell so far, soy does
interfere with thyroid function, but only
because it uses extra iodine up in the body's
processing of it. The solution, written in the
Huffington post by a science/health writer, is
to take your soy at a different time than your
thyroid hormone, and to supplement with extra
iodine. The article goes on to say that the
benefits of the right kind of soy are
great--genisten as anti=cancer, anti
inflammatory,etc...and worth it as long as you
follow the rules for avoiding soy's goitrogenic
and suppressive effect.
Somewhere on my desktop, I have this and another
article that allay the fears of soy; I
personally have been very very skeptical about
soy, and am still researching.
If you have articles regarding the interference
in T4 conversion, let me know!
> > >
> > >
> > > > But my list of symptoms?
Very long. The craving salt really bothers me.
> > >
> > > If you're craving salt, you're in
need of minerals. Fortunately, with the
> > > unrefined salt, you can have as
much as you want. And you should have. I
> > > was healed from extreme adrenal
exhaustion and was using more than 1
> > > TABLESPOON a day of unrefined
salt as part of what healed me. Unrefined
> > > salt cannot harm you because the
minerals are in balance. I haven't made
> > > this statement on the list in a
while, but you may be interested to know
> > > that ocean water has the same
mineral profile as our blood, and during
> > > World War II they used ocean
water for transfusions when they would run out
> > > of blood.
> > >
> > > > I believe a very important
nutrient is selenium when taking
> > > > iodine. Of course, the
others have their place - I believe it selenium
> > > > that is crucial. And take
selenium with Vit E, I have read.
> > >
> > > It's not just selenium. Each of
the companion supplements for the iodine
> > > protocol is there for a very good
reason(s). If you're not taking ALL of
> > > the companion nutrients in at
least the minimum dosage, you shouldn't be
> > > taking iodine at all.
> > >
> > >
> > > >I guess I am Hypo. And many
times Hyper. But no treatment. From any of
> > > >the endos or doctors I have
seen. I guess because my TSH is
> > > >fine. Great. But I don't feel
> > >
> > > How much iodine are you taking?
But you need all of the companion nutrients.
> > >
> > > From the early 1800s through the
1940s, Lugol's iodine solution was THE
> > > treatment for any thyroid
imbalance. They didn't have an epidemic of
> > > thyroid imbalance, they just
> > >
> > > --
> > > moderator, Iodine list
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ~~~ There is no way to peace;
peace is the way ~~~~
> > > --A.J. Muste
> > >