Gulf War Syndrome

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From: DPresnell@...

In a message dated 7/4/99 8:11:44 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

danielmeck@... writes:

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<< Regards >>

hello daniel,

to start with, i'd like to wish you a happy 4th of july..... also, i just

forwarded the email you sent me to about 20 people..... i figured that was the

appropriate thing to do and it's the only way we're gonna pass the word to

everyone..... i'm sending you another email that i received from the mother of a

gwv that the vamc not doing very much for........ i thought it would interest

you, the action she's taking on her son's behalf........ god bless and take

care........

debbie

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From: DPresnell@...

hello daniel,

this is the email i told you about......

debbie

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From: marilyn972@... (Marilyn Mcclure)

DPresnell@...

Debbie Here is a copy of a letter I sent the other day to another one of

Washingtons finest. Maybe we need to get the word out (no more voting ) and make

it public

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From: marilyn972@... (Marilyn Mcclure)

Date: Thu, 1 Jul 1999 00:47:35 -0400 (EDT)

Senator@...

Subject: Fwd: Gulf War Syndrome

Message-ID: <3632-377AF2E7-2706@...>

When I previously sent you this message I failed to include my mailing address:

Marilyn McClure

805 Willet Rd

Lackawanna,NY 14218

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I see that Hillary Clinton wants to take your place here in New York State. Well

isn't that special. I say let her go back to Arkansas and face the people she

and her husband that they have let down. I think

they have aired enough dirty laundry. It doesn't really matter to me because

tomorrow I am mailing my voters registration card to Congressman Quinn. You see

myself and quite a few thousand vets feel our government has let us down big

time. As a matter of fact our government has done some exterminating of its own.

Our sons and daughters and husbands are sick and dying from the Gulf War and we

know our government is covering up.. Do you people realize you have to face

Jesus one day and to Him this is an act of murder by covering up and not helping

our children. My son went through 16 pints of blood transfusion because his

blood got so thick and his white cell count got so out of control that his heart

was ready to explode. Then the VA says he can only be rechecked every 6 months

or he'll have to pay. In the last two years it has cost me over 40,000 dollars

to help him because the government has turned their back on him. As soon as his

wife found out he had GWS she left him and filed for divorce. He has seen his

little girl once in the last 1 1/2 years because he can't afford to go see her.

His ex-wife is supposed to let his daughter call him collect at least once a

week but she doesn't and we can't afford a lawyer. I don't know how you people

can live with yourselves. Go into the Gulf War Web pages sometime and read what

our Vets are going through. How about the young women whose 33 year old

husband just died., or the 26 year old who just had a pace maker put in. There

are thousand and thousands of stories but you people still cover up. We Know

chemical warfare was used and we know Squalene was used in the anthrax vaccines.

You people are our next door neighbors and you think you are above the law.

There will be a judgement on all of you though and I would think hard about it.

I will keep my faith though because I know God will get us all through this. I

will also pray for all of you in Washington, but I will never vote again nor

will a lot of vets I have talked to. I'm sorry if I sound so harsh but you are

taking my most prized possession that God graced me with, My Son.

Sincerely,

Marilyn McClure

-WebTV-Mail-10847-1541--

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Hello. I havn't been active on this list much but thought this might

interest some of you.......

FW from another list:

Judy and ,

That is interesting to know that you had similar experiences after being in

the gulf. I also had friends stationed in Bahrain. Actually many of them

now have cancer or are dead. I'm going to be taking part in a study of Gulf

War Syndrome starting next week, I can tell you more about it if you want.

How is your health now?? Mine is okay but I do have alot of fatigue and

muscle pain.

Well, I just got in and need to do some work but I do appreciate all of you

and wish you well. Jodi, I hope your week is going better. Let me know if

there is anything I can do.

Love,

Maya

Re: RE:More about me

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> > We do believe that there is a connection to either a vaccine (DPT or

Hep.

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> > or my vaccine (anthrax) that I recieved in 1990.

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> I miscarried when I returned to Bahrain after the war. We were living

there

> before the invasion and then my son, , and I were evacuated. I

> became pregnant immediately upon returning but lost it. 9 out of 10

> pregnant women miscarried so something was definitely wrong.

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> > I served in the Gulf War as a Hospital Corpsman in FH 15, Al Jubayl.

> > They recalled my a week before my wedding date in Dec. of 1990. I ws

there

> > until March.

my dh was overseas durning the gulf war... he spent a lot of his time on

land esp during the oil fires.

we lost 2 babies then...

-denise who has 3 beautiful boys despite the prior miscarriages-

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From: DQUILICO@...

Full-name: DQUILICO

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Date: Wed, 12 Apr 2000 20:38:36 EDT

Subject: Picketed Pueblo " ARMED FORCES RECRUITING STATION "

Today, at exactly noon, I picketed the Pueblo, Colorado Recruiting

Station. The local news paper, The Pueblo Chieftain was there interviewing

me and taking pics. Many pictures. The story will appear in tomorrows

paper. I wish I had the facility of e*mailing it to you.

When I appeared in their side walk, a Marine Guny Sgt. came out and asked me

if I had a permit. My response went like this:

Guny, Remember the oath you took when you enlisted? To protect and

defend the Constitution of The United States. The same oath I took. Now is

my turn to use it and nowhere in the First Amendment says that I need a

permit to excrsize it. It says: " Congress shall make no law abridging the

freedom of speech. " Nothing about " as long as they have a permit "

He turned on his heels and went back into his office. THE PICKETING WAS

SUCESSFUL and only lasted for 30 minutes. The story will reach thousands of

people tomorrow.

After the unpleasant incident in Colorado Springs last Wednesday when the

young Army Lt. came out in sporting duds, I tried to do the same explanation

I did with the Marine Sgt. but the LT. arrogantly informed me and did called

the police, I am in the process of writing to the Commanding Officer of the

Colorado Springs Recruiting Det. (here you can help me by providing me with

a correct address) saying words to this effect:

It gives me great displeasure to write this letter. This is not my

finest hour.

On Wednesday, April, 10, 2000, with great pain and sorrow in my heart, I

picketed OUR Recruiting Station at The Citadel Cross Roads to exercise

pressure on the Legislative and the Executive Branches of this Great Nation

of ours that we, so gallantly helped to defend. Today, in our waning years,

these two branches of our government has taken away our promissed, and

earned, medical benefits and are fighting a warr of attrition. Each day, one

thousand, 1000! Of us demise. These two branches are stalling, delaying,

cajooling, and using what ever dishonorable tactic they can think of in order

not rectify the wrong done to us.

My oath of office, like yours, the young soldier, and the rest of the

military personel in that building was, and still is: " To defend and protect

THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES. "

Perhaps the new generation does not respect oats any more. Perhaps you are

all trying to emulate YOUR Commander in Chief. But let me assure you, it

will not prevail.

Or, perhaps you feel the same way we, the old guard do; in which case it is

needed that you include in your next training class to your troops the sense

of honor that we felt while protecting THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES,

and it is your, and their duty to see that it is not infringed upon, but

rather to cherish and protect those of us who are doing a very distasteful

job to provide you and future generations with the sense of honor that we

have.

You are not occupation troops in your own house. Just like you are not

" PEACE KEEPERS. " You are warriors. American Fighting Men.

" THE WILLINGNESS WITH WHICH OUR YOUNG PEOPLE ARE LIKELY TO SERVE IN ANY WAR,

NO MATTER HOW JUSTIFIED, SHALL BE DIRECTLY PROPORTIONAL TO HOW THEY PERCEIVE

VETERANS OF EARLIER WARS WERE TREATED AND APPRICIATED BY OUR NATION " george

washington

Domenico Quilico

Chief Warrant Office 4

UNITED STATES ARMY RETIRED

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Study: Gulf War Syndrome Doesn't Exist Associated Press | September 12, 2006WASHINGTON - There is no such thing as Gulf War syndrome, even though U.S. and foreign veterans of the war report more symptoms of illness than do soldiers who didn't serve there, a federally funded study concludes. U.S. and foreign veterans of the Gulf War do suffer from an array of very real

problems, according to the Veterans Administration-sponsored report released Tuesday. Yet there is no one complex of symptoms to suggest those veterans - nearly 30 percent of all those who served - suffered or still suffer from a single identifiable syndrome. "There's no unique pattern of symptoms. Every pattern identified in Gulf War veterans also seems to exist in other veterans, though it is important to note the symptom rate is higher, and it is a serious issue," said Dr. Lynn Goldman, of s Hopkins University, who headed the Institute of Medicine committee that prepared the report. The VA contracted with the institute, part of the National Academy of Sciences, to review scientific studies and probe the issue at the direction of Congress. Tuesday's report is the latest in the important series, which the VA will rely on to determine whether Gulf War veterans are

eligible for special disability benefits if they are found to suffer from illnesses that can be linked to their service. Veterans can now claim those benefits only by making an undiagnosed illness claim, said Steve , a Gulf War Army veteran and government relations director for Veterans for America. "They keep saying it over and over, every year. We know that - we know that there is no single thing that made veterans sick. We know this thing is likely a combination of various exposures," said in pushing for new studies he hopes will find what ails tens of thousands of his fellow vets. A member of the Research Advisory Committee on Gulf War Veterans' Illnesses, also chartered by Congress, called the report the "first step" in cataloging the studies done on veterans of the conflict. "But the most prevalent problems in

Gulf War veterans are the multisymptom illness/Gulf War syndrome-type problems that still affect a sizable proportion of those who served in the war. I am disappointed that the IOM report does little to analyze what these studies collectively tell us about the nature and causes of these conditions," said Lea Steele, a Kansas State University epidemiologist who is the committee's scientific director. Soldiers who served in the Persian Gulf following the Iraqi invasion of neighboring Kuwait in August 1990 have reported symptoms that include fatigue, memory loss, muscle and joint pain, rashes and difficulty sleeping. But not all suffer from the same array of symptoms, which has complicated efforts to pinpoint their cause, according to the report. Department of Veterans Affairs spokesman Phil Budahn said the VA would not comment until it had a chance to study the report. The Veterans of Foreign Wars of the United States also was reviewing the study.

Nearly 700,000 U.S. soldiers, along with troops from 34 other countries, took part in the Gulf War. Once in the region, those soldiers were exposed to a wide array of toxins and other potential health hazards, including smoke from hundreds of oil well fires, pesticides, depleted uranium ammunition and possibly the nerve agent sarin, released during the demolition of a munitions dump. Inadequate screening of soldiers before deployment in the Gulf War, coupled with a lack of environmental monitoring during the conflict, have hindered efforts to determine whether exposure to those contaminants is linked to any illness, the report also notes. For years, the government denied the mysterious illnesses were linked to the war. It now acknowledges that at least some were due to wartime service. The government is no longer pointing to stress as the likely reason, as some federally funded studies had suggested. The new report did

find evidence of an elevated risk of the rare nerve disease amyotrophic lateral sclerosis, also called Lou Gehrig's disease, among Gulf War veterans. They also face an increased risk of anxiety disorders, depression and substance abuse, it said. http://www.military.com/NewsContent/0,13319,113282,00.html?ESRC=topstories.RSS

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The link didn't work. You may have a point. I haven't used pesticides

in my fight against mites, and have not experience any ache, tiredness

and lack of concentration. I have used loads of soaps and windex, and

ozone though.

-requireshelp

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> The Economist has an article that says that the Gulf War Syndrome may

> be caused by chemicals that are commonly found in pesticides. I'm

> wondering if the aches, tiredness, and lack of concentration may be

> related to our usual start fighting this thing by spraying and

bombing

> our houses with many pesticides, of course, the constant battle may

be

> similar to post war trauma where being constantly on one's toes wears

> on our nerves: http://www.economist.com/science/displaystory.cfm?

> story_id=10843161

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