Chiropractor

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The effectiveness of chiropractic management of fibromyalgia patients: a

pilot study.

Blunt KL, Rajwani MH, Guerriero RC.

Canadian Memorial Chiropractic College, Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

OBJECTIVE: To demonstrate the effectiveness of chiropractic management for

fibromyalgia patients using reported pain levels, cervical and lumbar ranges

of motion, strength, flexibility, tender points, myalgic score and perceived

functional ability as outcome measures.

DESIGN: A. Preliminary randomized control crossover trial. B. Before and

after design. PATIENTS: Twenty-one rheumatology patients (25-70 yr).

CHIROPRACTIC INTERVENTIONS: Treatment consisted of 4 wk of spinal

manipulation, soft tissue therapy and passive stretching at the

chiropractors' discretion.

CONTROL INTERVENTION: Chiropractic management withheld for 4 wk with

continuation of prescribed medication.

MAIN OUTCOME MEASURES: Changes in scores on the Oswestry Pain Disability

Index, Neck Disability Index, Visual Analogue Scale, straight leg raise and

lumbar and cervical ranges of motion were observed.

RESULTS: Chiropractic management improved patients' cervical and lumbar

ranges of motion, straight leg raise and reported pain levels. These changes

were judged to be clinically important within the confines of our sample

only.

CONCLUSIONS: Further study with a sample size of 81 (for 80% power at alpha

< or = .05) is recommended to determine if these findings are generalizable

to the target population of fibromyalgia suffers.

PMID: 9272472 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

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Had to respond to this one-- son- in law didn't think this would do much

good for Brittany--but she had almost no reflexes when we brought her home

from the hospital-- one adjustment later she was grabbing our finger! I

know lots of people don't think this does any good; but in Brittany's case

we know it helped.

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In a message dated 1/13/02 2:38:42 PM Eastern Standard Time,

ICANFIELD@... writes:

> I'm doing some research on chiropractor on DS , one of my friends is

> a chiropractor and he just opened a clinic . So now he wants to work

>

Cool Irma, tell us more please. What does he want to do to .

Diane

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This family down the street where I babysitt- their

children's father is a chiropractor.

Well that's cool that he's a chiropratctor on DS.

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> > I'm doing some research on chiropractor on DS ,

> one of my friends is

> > a chiropractor and he just opened a clinic . So

> now he wants to work

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>

> Cool Irma, tell us more please. What does he want to

> do to .

> Diane

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> Cool Irma, tell us more please. What does he want to do to .

> Diane

>

The chiropractor use to be my doc last year. This past Saturday

and I went to welcome his own business and he used to be one

of my challenging docs when I first started to look into the reading

more of the dual dx ., then more about the immune system . I was

being seen because of back problems , reason behind this is because

of the many lifting of 's melt down of too many years of wear &

tear . This is where comes in, the mentioning of Down

syndrome . He was very happy to meet and just could not wait

to tell me about wanting to work with him. Something about the spinal

cord needing to be corrected because as the DS kids age into an adult

the spine starts to curve and around the back nape area it forms into

a hump . Something like that , but don't quote me yet as I still need

to do my homework on it and I did not get to hear all he was saying

because people where greeting him . I even threw in , you probably

won't even accept our health ins. , he said " don't worry about

it " . Ok, you better share about your project on the sign language .

Take care .

Irma, 13,DS/ASD

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Can you see a chiropractor with a fused spine?

Chiropractor

Well I’ve been seeing Chiropractor since Dec. 26 and he has started me on

TPB which is a nutritional shake, mixed w/ Acidophilus/Bifidus and IG

Factors Immune Boosting & Infection Fighting GI Tract Strengthener. This

doc has a degree in massage therapy and neurology, so he's working on my two

top vertebrae C1 and C2 bc they’ve completely deviated to the right due to

my scoliosis. This paper he gave me says C1 and C2 controls these areas and

parts of the body: C1 -Blood supply to the head, pituitary gland, scalp,

bones of the face, brain, inner and middle ear, sympathetic nervous system.

C2 – Eyes, optic nerves, auditory nerves, sinuses, mastoid bone, tongue,

forehead. Then it says SYMPTOMS OF SPINAL MISALIGNMENT C1-headaches,

nervousness, insomnia, high blood pressure, migraines, nervous breakdown,

amnesia, chronic tiredness, dizziness. C2 –sinus trouble, allergies, pain

around the eyes, earache, fainting spells, certain cases of blindness,

crossed eyes, deafness.

So he feels if we work on aligning my vertebrae and massaging my muscles,

more energy will be sent through my body. We’re hoping w/ the TPB and

better alignment and massage, we’re hoping to see an increase in strength.

So I’ll keep you all posted on how its going!

~s, the unique princess~

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In a message dated 1/2/2003 8:43:35 AM Eastern Standard Time, jondus@...

writes:

> Can you see a chiropractor with a fused spine?

Im going to continue seeing him, bc I already notice a slight increase in

stregnth. Today I moved my arm from my stomach to my face. plus he's very

knowledgeable about the harrington rods. my neck still needs to be worked on.

~s, the unique princess~

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What were the supplements he was giving you again? I can't find your

original message.

Jay

Re: Chiropractor

In a message dated 1/2/2003 8:43:35 AM Eastern Standard Time,

jondus@... writes:

> Can you see a chiropractor with a fused spine?

Im going to continue seeing him, bc I already notice a slight increase in

stregnth. Today I moved my arm from my stomach to my face. plus he's very

knowledgeable about the harrington rods. my neck still needs to be worked

on.

~s, the unique princess~

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Forget my last request. You put it in this note. Where do you find TPB?

Who makes it, and how much is he giving you?

Chiropractor

Well I’ve been seeing Chiropractor since Dec. 26 and he has started me on

TPB which is a nutritional shake, mixed w/ Acidophilus/Bifidus and IG

Factors Immune Boosting & Infection Fighting GI Tract Strengthener. This

doc has a degree in massage therapy and neurology, so he's working on my two

top vertebrae C1 and C2 bc they’ve completely deviated to the right due to

my scoliosis. This paper he gave me says C1 and C2 controls these areas and

parts of the body: C1 -Blood supply to the head, pituitary gland, scalp,

bones of the face, brain, inner and middle ear, sympathetic nervous system.

C2 – Eyes, optic nerves, auditory nerves, sinuses, mastoid bone, tongue,

forehead. Then it says SYMPTOMS OF SPINAL MISALIGNMENT C1-headaches,

nervousness, insomnia, high blood pressure, migraines, nervous breakdown,

amnesia, chronic tiredness, dizziness. C2 –sinus trouble, allergies, pain

around the eyes, earache, fainting spells, certain cases of blindness,

crossed eyes, deafness.

So he feels if we work on aligning my vertebrae and massaging my muscles,

more energy will be sent through my body. We’re hoping w/ the TPB and

better alignment and massage, we’re hoping to see an increase in strength.

So I’ll keep you all posted on how its going!

~s, the unique princess~

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In a message dated 1/3/2003 8:18:37 AM Eastern Standard Time, jondus@...

writes:

> Where do you find TPB?

> Who makes it, and how much is he giving you?

Here's the company who makes it:www.danielchapterone.com

I get 3 to 4 heaping scoops mixed w/ 6 oz. of spring water or soy milk three

times a day.

~s, the unique princess~

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You may have better success re: this with physical therapy. I am not

against chiropractors, but they do tend to delve into areas of the

body that other professions are better able to handle/work.

If you meet with your Primary care physician (PCP) they will refer

you to which ever is appropriate.

HTH

Jen

>

> Hello,

>

> This may be a bit off topic, but I'm curious to hear if anyone has

had

> success w/chiropractors for shoulder pain.

>

> I just went today (first visit to a chiropractor) and found out

> bursitis and tendonitis of my rotators is the cause of my pain. I

was

> expecting him to say it was related to my spine/scoliosis, but he

> didn't. He recommended ice and rest (jsut what some of you guys said

> when I posted about this a couple of weeks ago) and said I could

come

> back to have it worked on to help it heal better. I made the next

> appt since it what he did felt good.

>

> He also said my sternal clavicular joint on that side was frozen,

and

> he tapped on it a few times and now it's moving again. I have a

> feeling it's been frozen for a while (before I started BFL & I

didn't

> realize it).

>

> So I'm currently on my week off b/w challenges and when I start up

> again, I'm going to be doing only left side UBWO, then adding extra

> cardio to make my workouts 45 min. as was suggested to someone else

> dealing w/pain.

>

> I;ll stop rambling now

> Candace

>

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I take my (now occasional)shoulder pain, back pain, neck crinks, etc

to my accupuncturist.

She relieved back pain in 3 sessions that chiropractic and " western "

medicine hadn't fixed in 3 years.

Something to think about.

No, it doesn't hurt like an injection does.

Yes, I close my eyes because I am wimpy that way

Look in the yellow pages. Usually the consultation/evaluation is free.

M.

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Cherita,

Very interesting and you have been through quite a bit! I did bypass

my primary care MD after my husband consulted his for some hip/groin

pain, ref'd to PT, but no improvement. I am interested in alternative

treatments in general (accupuncture too), but I think I was a little

intimidated by chiro for I'm not sure what real reason exactly. We

will see, but less than 12 hrs later, it feels better than it has all

week.

Candace

>

> Hi Candance,

>

> I too have bursitis, it took 3 months and several trips to several

doctors

> before it was finally diagnosed.

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My brother is a chiropractor, and I worked for him for a few years

before I got married. I'm a firm believer in them. I was in a car

accident in the 80's where I got hit from behind and had neck trouble.

I was told a few years ago there is some arthritis in my neck. I

didn't get it worked on according to their recommendations, but they

said to just keep movement in there. I'll bet if I were to get

re-x-rayed it would have less arthritis now than then, or at least I

hope. My husband and I get adjusted every month by a chiropractor.

Marie in TX

>

> Hello,

>

> This may be a bit off topic, but I'm curious to hear if anyone has had

> success w/chiropractors for shoulder pain.

>

> I just went today (first visit to a chiropractor) and found out

> bursitis and tendonitis of my rotators is the cause of my pain. I was

> expecting him to say it was related to my spine/scoliosis, but he

> didn't. He recommended ice and rest (jsut what some of you guys said

> when I posted about this a couple of weeks ago) and said I could come

> back to have it worked on to help it heal better. I made the next

> appt since it what he did felt good.

>

> He also said my sternal clavicular joint on that side was frozen, and

> he tapped on it a few times and now it's moving again. I have a

> feeling it's been frozen for a while (before I started BFL & I didn't

> realize it).

>

> So I'm currently on my week off b/w challenges and when I start up

> again, I'm going to be doing only left side UBWO, then adding extra

> cardio to make my workouts 45 min. as was suggested to someone else

> dealing w/pain.

>

> I;ll stop rambling now

> Candace

>

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Actually that's a good question. I suppose it might be possible that a subluxed

kneecap might actually be a dislocated kneecap. Anybody up for seefing if

chiropractors have anything to say about this? I know someone who went to a dr.

about her knee pain. He manipulated the kneecap & made what had been a fairly

minor problem Much Worse. And every time she's seen him since, he does

something to make it EVEN WORSER. So either that means that no manipulation

should have been done at all, or it should have been done by a chiropractor (one

with a great rep -- I had my back made worse by a chiro). And of course it

means she shouldn't have see him again.

Ann

chiropractor

I was wondering if anybody had been to a chiropractor for severe

chondromalacia and did it help?

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I have an incredible chiro who is also a kinesiologist (sp?)... he looks at

how the body's working with itself. For example, I have carpal tunnel and

in addition to re-aligning the bones & such in my hand and showing me

exercises to help them stay put, he will test and find that something in my

elbow is also off, which is further throwing off my wrist.

He worked on my knees for quite some time, because he thought it was my

tibia & fibula that wouldn't stay put that was causing my problem, in

addition to some pelvic rotation that I keep getting. He never manipulated

my patella, that wouldn't have been a good thing to do. But he kept putting

my tib/fib back in place, we tried several taping techniques and it just

would NOT stabilize. He is actually the one who finally told me that I had

to go see an ortho, because nothing he was doing was helping. Wasn't

hurting, but it wasn't helping either. He could prescribe a functional

brace (at that point the knee had started buckling on me at times) but that

in his opinion I needed to just break down and go see an ortho. (I was

resistant because of my experiences 15 years before.)

My chiro was frank with me about what he could and could not do. There's

nothing a chiro can do to repair cartilage (though many are also

nutritionists and will prescribe supplements which may or may not help), but

if there is an underlying cause that can actually be corrected by

manipulation and taping (lots of chiros are getting into functional taping)

then they can be of some help. My situation was too severe for him to help,

and I appreciated both him trying, and him telling me that he couldn't

really help.

Now, I just can't wait to be done with PT for the year so I can go see him

for my hip that's out of whack thanks to the weird ways I've been sleeping

with the leg for 6 months!!! (PT and chiro come out of the same buckets and

have limits with my health plan.)

Meg F.

On 9/2/08, Ann <ruby2zdy@...> wrote:

>

> Actually that's a good question. I suppose it might be possible that a

> subluxed kneecap might actually be a dislocated kneecap. Anybody up for

> seefing if chiropractors have anything to say about this? I know someone who

> went to a dr. about her knee pain. He manipulated the kneecap & made what

> had been a fairly minor problem Much Worse. And every time she's seen him

> since, he does something to make it EVEN WORSER. So either that means that

> no manipulation should have been done at all, or it should have been done by

> a chiropractor (one with a great rep -- I had my back made worse by a

> chiro). And of course it means she shouldn't have see him again.

>

> Ann

> chiropractor

>

> I was wondering if anybody had been to a chiropractor for severe

> chondromalacia and did it help?

>

>

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I also bring my daughter to the chiropractor for hip and low back pain. It

seems to help her quite a bit as with favoring her bad knee caused her hip to

lock. I have her going to a podiatrist that did computerized imaging of her

gait. She tended to toe out due to poor arches and actually had a pretty

substantial leg discrepancy which will be adjusted by custom orthotics.

Hopefully,

by correcting some of the hip and foot problems her knee will be aligned

better.

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I go to a chiropractor but not for my knees. I go for hip and back pain. He

has me going in for a massage and they do therapeutic massage on my knees to

help with pain and extreme tightness along with my back (which is what

partly causes my hip pain). It helps some, but not really much. Mostly the

massage hurts like the dickens.

Joi

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I was wondering if anybody had been to a chiropractor for severe

chondromalacia and did it help?

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Ask your Dr., my Dr said 4 me not 2 go because it could make me worse. Plus once

u start going u can't stop. What I do is get a massage ooh it feels so good.

Lots of luck,

From: princessbuttercup12 <princessbuttercup1 2 @>

Subject: chiropractor

Scoliosis Treatment

Date: Monday, September 15, 2008, 7:15 PM

has anyone with scoliosis gone to or considered going to a chiropractor?

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I visited a chiropractor here in the UK but I think they were trying to rip me

off. They gave me a spine x ray and when I saw it I nearly cried when I saw the

extent of the curve, till I realised that nobody could have a curve like that

and still be able to stand up and the thing had clearly been taken at a funny

angle. The treatment consisted of wrenching my head round and it did no good,

least of all to my bank balance.

Judith

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Hi Judith:   I am an oldey who has had the Harrington Rods inserted back in

1966.  My surgeon who I trust alot, and after reading many emails from others

who are having so much problems, told me that the spine grows too fast for the

body so it curves.  When they put the rods in they straighten the curve and

insert the rods.  He also told me never go to a chiropractor as they can not

help except if you have a back neck.  I have had rods for along time and have

never had any problems.  My curve was straightened out and my rods have hooks on

them similar to fishing hooks.  They go the full length of my back and I had a

bone graft from my backside to my shoulder blade to even them out.

Chiropractor

I visited a chiropractor here in the UK but I think they were trying to rip me

off. They gave me a spine x ray and when I saw it I nearly cried when I saw the

extent of the curve, till I realised that nobody could have a curve like that

and still be able to stand up and the thing had clearly been taken at a funny

angle. The treatment consisted of wrenching my head round and it did no good,

least of all to my bank balance.

Judith

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Depending on the type of scoliosis, a chiropractor may help

temporarily/short-term. But in dealing with a youth, they should be

monitored by an orthopaedic surgeon/specialist, especially if alternate

methods are considered, as not all chiropractors or other treatments are

that knowledgeable about scoliosis. Some may do more harm than good, so do

your research first. These methods would only possibly by useful in a mild

curve, not in moderate-severe curves. Every case is unique, and the world of

medicine has greatly advanced, especially lately. You may find that

strengthening the core muscles, under the specialist's recommendations, may

be enough to stabilize the curve. In most cases, if there is a correction,

it is usually only by 20% max. (in mild curves), otherwise the alternates

are helpful in pain management (again, should be monitored by an orthopaedic

surgeon).

Scoliosis is a life-long condition, and even those with mild scoliosis, good

back practises in lifting, etc. should be maintained more than the average

public, so that you maintain a good quality of life for as long as possible.

This is only my opinion through research and living with scoliosis (and it's

late-onset complications of surgery done in the early 70's). I am NOT in the

medical community, but I am involved with a scoliosis organization.

Llweyn

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thanks Llweyn but i dont think my curve will change if i see a

chiroporactor. i just wanted to see if it would help relieve some

tension in my back. i've tried stretching but that doesnt always help.

>

> Depending on the type of scoliosis, a chiropractor may help

> temporarily/short-term. But in dealing with a youth, they should be

> monitored by an orthopaedic surgeon/specialist, especially if

alternate

> methods are considered, as not all chiropractors or other

treatments are

> that knowledgeable about scoliosis. Some may do more harm than

good, so do

> your research first. These methods would only possibly by useful in

a mild

> curve, not in moderate-severe curves. Every case is unique, and the

world of

> medicine has greatly advanced, especially lately. You may find that

> strengthening the core muscles, under the specialist's

recommendations, may

> be enough to stabilize the curve. In most cases, if there is a

correction,

> it is usually only by 20% max. (in mild curves), otherwise the

alternates

> are helpful in pain management (again, should be monitored by an

orthopaedic

> surgeon).

>

> Scoliosis is a life-long condition, and even those with mild

scoliosis, good

> back practises in lifting, etc. should be maintained more than the

average

> public, so that you maintain a good quality of life for as long as

possible.

>

> This is only my opinion through research and living with scoliosis

(and it's

> late-onset complications of surgery done in the early 70's). I am

NOT in the

> medical community, but I am involved with a scoliosis organization.

>

> Llweyn

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stuart korth is supposed to be very good, he has osteopathy practice specialising in kids, not sure if doing chiropractice as well

http://www.stuartkorth.com/pages/who-we-are.php

Natasa

hello, can anyone recommend a good chiropractor for children in london, or kent area, i live in sevenoaks,

Thanks a lot

Maripi