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Hi to everyone,

I would appreciate any comments or information from anyone.

My partner has Hidradenitis Suppuritiva. It is a disease of 'unknown'

cause occurring in the apocrine follicles. A flare-up starts with

painful nodules under the skin which sometimes errupt. As he is having

a flare-up now, I have been looking on the website for any information

which may help him and found some interesting stuff. H.S. is often

seen in conjunction with thyroid disease !!!! such as Graves Disease or

Hashimoto Thyrodiditis.

The doctors he has seen give him antibiotics and wave goodbye. They do

not know how to treat him.

Also........he is always tired, he cannot lose weight, his face and

eyes are puffy. He falls asleep when he sits down and gets comfortable

in the evening. He snores - sleep apneoa. However much he sleeps he

still feels tired. His back aches, his feet ache, he has dry skin. As

well as a few other probs.

Could it be that he has a thyroid problem????

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hi miriam; interesting that you should bring this up now, i saw dr.

p. last tuesday (and yes he is everything everybody says and more i

think) anyway he is questioning estrogen dominance amongst other

things and i have sent off for the very book you are quoting from. i

am also taking a estrogen/progesterone spit test to check the

levels. if they are low i am to start serenity cream. i also have

osteopenia and apparently the progesterone will help with bone mass

building. my hypo symptoms got much worse post menopause and

apparently this is a very common reason for worsening symptoms in

hypo women. my cortisol levels are out of whack as well, my 8 am

reading is in excess of 50 but by noon am way below normal. so i

have been told to take my nae at 11 am and 3 pm. to keep my energy

levels up for longer. i did feel quite jittery taking the nae first

thing in the morning. silly me, as it was the one time of day i

didn't need it. so far taking it later in the day hasn't kept me

awake. i am also off armour for a week whilst building the nae

doses. i was nervous about coming off but it really hasn't been too

bad. kind regards jane

>

> I am currently reading " What your doctor may not tell you about

breast

> cancer " by R Lee. It's mainly about oestrogen dominance and

> progesterone deficiency, but on page 187 there's a bit about

> autoimmune disorders which may be of interest to some. Any comments

> would be appreciated.

>

>

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Hi Mo,

I use ortho gynest cream which is estriol.

Val

I am thinking of asking the GP for estriol as I believe this is safer oestrogen to use in cream form.Anyone using it?Thanks.Mo

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hi shiela; of course i will post the asi results again, if only i

could take the cortisole that i have at 8 am and spread it through

the day!

8 am 50.6 (12.-33)

12 noon 9.4 (10.-28)

4 pm 5.3 (6.-11.8)

midnight 2.7 (1.-5)

DHEA

8am 5.7 (7.-18.3)

12 noon 4.2 (4.8-8.2)

4 pm 4.3 (3.5-6.0)

midnight 4.4 (2.0-4.0)

Comments: salivary cortisol profile: 8 am value significantly

above reference range; other results are either borderlline or below

reference range. overall indicates an erratic hormone output

salivary DHEA profile: 8am and noon values below reference range;

erratic hormone output.

regards jane

>

> Hi Jane - can you post your full ASI test results with the

reference ranges. If you have already done this, my apologies, but I

would like there are so many results I cannot always remember.

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

>

>

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Hi Mo, jenny Ben has some cream which is progesterone and oestrogen called something or other.can`t think at the moment, but contact details are in the files,. this is where i get my prog cream from, also I have try-ed the two hormones together, and it works quite well.so worth a try I think. it has black cohorsh in it as well as some other things so it is good for post menopause. angel.

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BUMP ~ for lizzie ~ regards jane

> >

> > Hi Jane - can you post your full ASI test results with the

> reference ranges. If you have already done this, my apologies, but

I

> would like there are so many results I cannot always remember.

> >

> > Luv - Sheila

> >

> >

> >

>

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hi sheila;

* i feel much better taking the nae later in the day, whilst taking

in early in the morning i could never get above 2 per day as i got

jittery which is not surprising given the amount of cortisol i have

floating about in the mornings ! in the two weeks since dr. p

changed the times about i am now up to 4 daily and am starting to

feel much better without the afternoon crashes.

i am currently taking 2 nae at 12 and 2 at 2, it has not had any

effect on sleeping.

i am back on armour, at the moment 1 1/2 grains and that will go to 2

tomorrow. i don't seem to need as much. when i saw dr. p. i was on

4 1/2 grains. i stopped it for a week and am just reintroducing it

gradually, with luck i won't need to take as much.

i have been taking my armour at night since early september, i sleep

so much better, it is quite amazing what just changing around the

timimg makes. the only problem i have is taking supplements, they

do upset my stomach even spreading them out throughout the day. i had

a nasty tummy bug last week so i am trying to reintroduce them very

slowly ! regards jane

>

> Hi Jane

>

> Do you feel it has made a difference to take your NAE at a later

time in the

> morning and afternoon. How do you feel now you have started back on

Armour

> (assuming that you have) and also, have you considered taking your

Armour at

> night?

>

> Luv - Sheila

> >

> > hi shiela; of course i will post the asi results again, if only i

> > could take the cortisole that i have at 8 am and spread it

through

> > the day!

> > 8 am 50.6 (12.-33)

> > 12 noon 9.4 (10.-28)

> > 4 pm 5.3 (6.-11.8)

> > midnight 2.7 (1.-5)

> >

> > DHEA

> > 8am 5.7 (7.-18.3)

> > 12 noon 4.2 (4.8-8.2)

> > 4 pm 4.3 (3.5-6.0)

> > midnight 4.4 (2.0-4.0)

> > Comments: salivary cortisol profile: 8 am value significantly

> > above reference range; other results are either borderlline or

> below

> > reference range. overall indicates an erratic hormone output

> > salivary DHEA profile: 8am and noon values below reference range;

> > erratic hormone output.

> >

>

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Hi Jane

Thankyou for posting your results, yes your cortisol are very similar

to mine. I managed to speak with Dr P today and he has advised me to

reduce my NAE to 2or 3 per day and to take mid-morning to lunchtime

and then in the afternoon. He thinks that the fact that I had been

taking NAE for a while (even though I stopped for over 24 hours prior

to test) that this had skewed my results somewhat and caused the high

morning cortisol. He thought it looked as though i was taking too much

and this was also causing my high night time dhea. Do you find that

you can be a bit shaky first thing in the morning? I forgot to ask him

about that.

Love Lizzie

> > 8 am 50.6 (12.-33)

> > 12 noon 9.4 (10.-28)

> > 4 pm 5.3 (6.-11.8)

> > midnight 2.7 (1.-5)

> >

> > DHEA

> > 8am 5.7 (7.-18.3)

> > 12 noon 4.2 (4.8-8.2)

> > 4 pm 4.3 (3.5-6.0)

> > midnight 4.4 (2.0-4.0)

> > Comments: salivary cortisol profile: 8 am value significantly

> > above reference range; other results are either borderlline or

> below

> > reference range. overall indicates an erratic hormone output

> > salivary DHEA profile: 8am and noon values below reference range;

> > erratic hormone output.

> >

> > regards jane

> >

> >

> >

> > >

> > > Hi Jane - can you post your full ASI test results with the

> > reference ranges. If you have already done this, my apologies, but

> I

> > would like there are so many results I cannot always remember.

> > >

> > > Luv - Sheila

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

>

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