Hi everyone.

[Guest guest]

Hi,and thankyou Sheila for letting me join.

I've been back and forth to my Gp for about 4yrs now. I've had Mri

scan,

camera checking my sinuses, eye specailists trying to find my problem.

In 2004 an eye specailist requested a TSH blood test amongst many.

Since then it is slowly creeping up within lab ranges, so despite my

symptoms my Gp will not warrent any more tests. But as in her words

Im grossly over weight (I weight 14stone) offered me diet pills and

depression pills. I have today changed GP's. Got a feeling as if I'm

jumping out of the frying pan into the fire though.

My TSH is now 3.15. Blood pressure 142/90 Cholestorol 6.7

These are my symptoms:

Hair thinning

Dandruff,

excema in eyebrows

Eyes puffy, sore, vision very bad getting worse. Flashings lights

lots of odd feelings.

Tinnitus, ears feel full of wax and itch.

head aches, dizziness

my face feels tight and puffy

Wake up in night as if I'm choking

Depression lost of interest in many things, heads fuzzy, doing the

slightest thing is a problem.

anxiety attacks

tingly feelings in fingers (like hot aches)

cystitus

constipation, and flatunence

periods lights used to be heavy getting closer together

loss of sexual desire, no feelings

legs feel heavy going up stairs

knee pain and creeky knees

ankles swell

Never feel fully awake, like i've been drugged.

can't lose weight

Always look pale no colour I look ILL

I hope we all get our wish to feel well again which we all rightly

deserve and have a right to do so!

[Guest guest]

A friend of mine went to her doctor with a number of symptoms (all together

would indicate a thyroid problem). She started with one symptom and was

about to mention the next when her GP told her that he could only deal with

one thing at a time.

He then proceeded to write a prescription for each symptom, not once

thinking of looking at the whole picture.

There are certain get-outs that doctors always use when they are at a loss

what they can do, or cannot be bothered.

1. The reason for ALL your medical problems is because you are

overweight. That leaves the ball in your court and they are off the hook.

2. You are depressed and it is that which is causing ALLl your medical

conditions - then offers you Prozac. This way although you have not been

cured, you are too out of it to worry.

Lilian

[Guest guest]

From my reading beware Prozac can lower TSH levels and mask

hypothyroidism.... not very helpful if wide ranges are are used too

ruth

>

> A friend of mine went to her doctor with a number of symptoms (all

together

> would indicate a thyroid problem). She started with one symptom

and was

> about to mention the next when her GP told her that he could only

deal with

> one thing at a time.

>

> He then proceeded to write a prescription for each symptom, not once

> thinking of looking at the whole picture.

>

> There are certain get-outs that doctors always use when they are at

a loss

> what they can do, or cannot be bothered.

>

> 1. The reason for ALL your medical problems is because you are

> overweight. That leaves the ball in your court and they are off

the hook.

>

> 2. You are depressed and it is that which is causing ALLl your medical

> conditions - then offers you Prozac. This way although you have

not been

> cured, you are too out of it to worry.

>

> Lilian

>

[Guest guest]

> Wake up in night as if I'm choking

Hi

Sleep Apnea is often connected to hypo and I would encourage you to

ask for a sleep study. Do you have a family member who you can ask if

you snore at all.

Can you post your location to see if there is a doctor near to you who

is a little bit thyroid savvy. Or, are you in a position to go private

to get yourself well.

When I had a TSH of 4 I was crawling on the floor and undiagnosed cos

of this darn blood test range for 15 years. It was only when I got

onto the internet thatI found out what I really needed to know.

Many ppl report that they feel best with a TSH of 1 or under and a

FreeT3 and FreeT4 just above midrange and a ferritan of 50 preferably 70.

Also avoid SOY products (check packets)

jenny freeman

>

> Hi,and thankyou Sheila for letting me join.

>

> I've been back and forth to my Gp for about 4yrs now. I've had Mri

> scan,

> camera checking my sinuses, eye specailists trying to find my problem.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

My other half says I snore and I must admit sometimes I can just be

sitting there and I must snore as I suddenly wake up!

I'm in Lowestoft if it helps.

Being plaqued by a flashing light in my eye now wonder if this has

antyhing to do with all whats going on.

[Guest guest]

-Hi ,

OK, I think you would be well advised to seek a sleep study as quickly

as you can. Once diagnosed I cant tell you how much relief you will

get as you will get oxygen into your body, especially at night and get

into the deep sleep that will refresh you.

I have sleep apnea, (which is how I recognised your symptom of waking

suddenly) - anyhoo your local gp could organise this if you just

mention about the waking and snoring etc. Just go in for that if it

is the old doc (who is thyroid challenged) to get the show on the

road. Unless someone comes up with a doc in the area that they can

recommend.

Sleep Test:

This is undertaken in a clinic overnight or you will be 'wired up'

and given instructions for overnight test.

They will test how many times you stop breathing during the night. I

didnt know but I was stopping breathing for 60 seconds every 2 minutes

during sleep. I was only physically 'waking up' once a night which I

thought was a toilet visit time due to age.

The brain wakes you up cos it is being starved of oxygen and to stop

you from dying.......

I wasnt getting down into the deep sleep, only staying at the light

sleep so no healing or restoring is taking place.

Its well advised not to drink alcohol before bed the alcohol will

hamper the brains response to wake you up.

I was placed on a nightly C-Pap machine which automatically comes on

if/when I stop breathing. Now the first 2 weeks of using this machine

is a bit 'intrusive' as you have to wear a mask to sleep, but after

one week on this I had so much energy I joined a gym the week later as

I now had oxygen going thru my body and getting a deep and refreshing

sleep. In fact I was hyper manic and did jobs around the house I had

only looked at for years.....

There is a bit of a trick to using it. 1: Dont complain for 2 weeks

no matter what. 2: breathe INTO the mask and not try to 'get away'

from it.

Now this didnt fix my thyroid problem, but fixed the sleep apnea which

is often caused by the hypothyroidism.

My C-pap machine shows that I no longer have 'apneas' or epsidoes of

stopping breathing during the night anymore, no doubt since I got my

thyroid meds, but for some reason, now I cant sleep without it !!! lol

Thyroid hormone (which you dont seem to have enough of) is like engine

oil, and if you dont have enough engine oil, the whole of the car

engine is affected until it ceases up....so you need to get a doc who

will test FreeT3 and FreeT4 to see just how much thyroid hormone is

travelling around your body and adjust accordingly.

It is well worth going private, either Dr P in Surrey or anyone else

that anyone can recommend. (I am ex Londoner living in Australia)

I have gone on a bit here, sorry about the long post - but definately

got get the sleep study under way.

The C-pap machine is very quiet and wont disturb your husband.

Connerly sleeps with one - if that is any comfort !!! lol

OHHHHH - nearly forgot, I used to have serious acid reflux, so much so

that I had to sleep sitting up as the acid would come up my throat and

even I thought I could feel it in my ears it was so bad - well that

STOPPED overnight -and I have never had to get up for a night time

visit to the loo either since the c-pap machine came into the house.

Hope you are encouraged to pick up the phone and get that sleep study.

jenny

>

> Hi

>

> My other half says I snore and I must admit sometimes I can just be

> sitting there and I must snore as I suddenly wake up!

>

[Guest guest]

Hi,

Nice to meet another 'local'! I'm in Stowmarket. Rode through Lowestoft

last Summer on the bike.

Hi

My other half says I snore and I must admit sometimes I can just be

sitting there and I must snore as I suddenly wake up!

I'm in Lowestoft if it helps.

Being plaqued by a flashing light in my eye now wonder if this has

antyhing to do with all whats going on.

Messages are not a substitute for professional medical advice. Always

consult with a suitably qualified practitioner before changing medication.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Been spending a few days at my parents in Great Yarmouth. Flood

watching. I'm amazed how much energy I have got filling sandbags!!

>

> Hi,

> Nice to meet another 'local'! I'm in Stowmarket. Rode through

Lowestoft

> last Summer on the bike.

>

>

>

>

> Hi

>

> My other half says I snore and I must admit sometimes I can just be

> sitting there and I must snore as I suddenly wake up!

>

> I'm in Lowestoft if it helps.

>

> Being plaqued by a flashing light in my eye now wonder if this has

> antyhing to do with all whats going on.

>

>

>

> Messages are not a substitute for professional medical advice.

Always

> consult with a suitably qualified practitioner before changing

medication.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dawn

Your doc will investigate if the BP and the 'flashing lights'/stars in

the eyes are related, they may be. Anyone in the family with

glaucoma /on ageing?

Your eyesight is at risk if blood pressure gets out of hand, they

should tell you this; and you need to know what risk factors are

correlated.

Does it correlate with reactive hypoglycemia?

best wishes

Bob

[Guest guest]

" BP and the 'flashing lights'/stars "

Hi Dawn,

I have also always had flashing lights/stars in front of my eyes on

occasion. For me they are like small white lights spaced regularly

across my vision and they move around. When ever I have described to

others what they are, no one else seems to have had the same thing.

I have a tendancy towards low blood pressure - I think you tend to have

on the high side if I remember rightly. Pleas let us know if you find

out what they are - I've always wondered!

Leah x

[Guest guest]

The first lights I ever experienced where like bright stars all

accross my eyes as described by you Leah but I found that they were

related to stretching my peripheral vision and I never reported those.

Maybe I should have.

The doc did not ask any questions he used the pupil dilator and tested

for glaucoma and tested my tears, I am not producing enough so I got

artificial ones. He looked deep into the backs of my eyes etc. But he

was under the impression I was getting the GTT until I told him I

wasn't don't know if he will ask the other doc to give me a test.

Anyway, the only result was the artificial tears.

lotsa luv

Dawnx

[Guest guest]

Hi Dawn,

It might be due to the adrenalin spike that goes with the low blood

sugar...

hence, the GTT is critical...

best wishes

Bob

>

> Thanks Bob I will be interested to find out if he asks these

> questions. Now you come to mention it, it might happen when my sugar

[Guest guest]

Jane

thanks for that advice, the eye doc just gave me hypromellose drops,

if I find they don't help, can I buy the ones you have over the

counter? I do use herbs occasionally, unfortunately my antidepressant

is not a herbal one, I am stuck on Seroxat so if that is causing it

nothing I can do about it right now thanks for the advice hon

Bob

It might be due to the adrenalin spike that goes with the low blood

sugar...

hence, the GTT is critical...

best wishes

Bob

I have spoken to him and he still doesn't think I need it, I asked

about an insulin resistance test and he said all 'big' (meaning fatty

I assume) people are insulin resistant. I was very very annoyed and

quite upset but I am feeling fragile so I did not push it, I am losing

my push at the moment, could be due to my need for adequate thyroid

doses, you may have seen my latest post with the TSH and other bloods,

I feel really quite bad with fibromyalgia symptoms at the moment.

Having trouble walking and in a lot of pain. I wish I still had as

much fight as I had when I started out before the other problems

started showing themselves, think I am too bloomin old lol. Wish I had

discovered Armour 15 or 20 years ago :)/

Bob do you think I should do the GTT myself at home?

lotsa luv

Dawnx

[Guest guest]

Thanks all of you for your help

Bob, he says nothing he can do to treat me and he thinks it is

psychological my sugar drops, so basically he doesn't care is what

that says to me, he thinks I am just wanting it because of the

collapse. I need to know what Jen's doc did for her so I can convince

him that there IS a treatment if he founds out about it, as his

argument is that it would not lead to any useful treatment. Thanks

Shiela too

And the drops being available over the counter is cool, thanks for

that advice hon.

lotsa luv

Dawnx

[Guest guest]

Hi Bob,

I think he just thinks I am 'depressed' or something, he thinks I want

the test because of the hospital admission but I posted about the

letter of 'hope' and he doesn't seem to be able to connect the symptoms.

I am really unable to follow the posts sometimes, do you find on your

computer they are not in order of answers and I cannot find if people

have answered my posts? Particularly in long threads like this one, Is

it just me? Have I got even more gormless lol.

luv Dawnx

[Guest guest]

>>>I am really unable to follow the posts sometimes, do you find on yourcomputer they are not in order of answers and I cannot find if peoplehave answered my posts? <<<<

This has been happening to me recently as well. I might be a thing because it is happening on all the I am on, not just this one.

It could also be something to do with each persons server and some might be quicker than others, or busier.

I tested it myself last week. I sent several emails to myself headed test 1, test 2, test 3 etc. and they arrived in my inbox in the wrong order and one never arrived at all. And that had nothing to do with at all, so it must be my server.

Very frustrating to say the least.

Lilian

[Guest guest]

Hi Christos and welcome to the group.

Do have a read of the file section and you may pick up some useful information.

Feel free to ask any questions.

Lilian

I've just been recently diagnosed with Hypothyroidism, after having blood tests for Hypertension, currently on 10mg of Ramipril for the blood pressure problems, and 50mg of Levothyroxine for the Hypothyroidism.I'm not very good at intros, I live in Wales! Christos.

[Guest guest]

Hi christos

Welcome to this group.

I'm fairly new on here too.

You can be forgiven for living in Wales by the way!!! tehe

Well hopefull you will be able to get off the Ramipril now the real diagnosis has been given.

How are you feeling generally and how are you feeling about your diagnosis?

sally xx

I've just been recently diagnosed with Hypothyroidism, after having blood tests for Hypertension, currently on 10mg of Ramipril for the blood pressure problems, and 50mg of Levothyroxine for the Hypothyroidism.I'm not very good at intros, I live in Wales! Christos.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sally, lols at the Wales jibe, I'll be on the Ramipril for a very long

time.

Generally I feel very tired and fed up. Been ill with depression and anxiety for

years, but previous blood tests didn't show up any thyroid problems.

>

>

>

>

>

> Hi christos

> Welcome to this group.

> I'm fairly new on here too.

>  

> You can be forgiven for living in Wales by the way!!! tehe

> Well hopefull you will be able to get off the Ramipril now the real diagnosis

> has been given.

>  

> How are you feeling generally and how are you feeling about your diagnosis?

>  

> sally xx

[Guest guest]

Thanks Lilian, I did read some stuff in the file section, although I seem to

have forgotten what I had read :/

>

> Hi Christos and welcome to the group.

>

> Do have a read of the file section and you may pick up some useful

information.

>

> Feel free to ask any questions.

>

> Lilian

[Ed]

[Guest guest]

Hi Christos,

I believe I have been hyper/hypo thyroid for most of my life and certainly hypo since my 20's I am now 58, I only got diagnosed about 5-6years ago by Dr Myhill and Dr Peatfield...otherwise I would still be dragging myself around with increasing symptoms and being told nothing is wrong well ok we'll diagnose CFS to give you a label. The reason I wasnt diagnosed was because I NEVER HAD 'ABNORMAL' TEST RESULTS. I now take 4-5grain ERFA thyroid AND additionally 40mcgs T3. If I wasnt hypothyroid I would not be able to tolerate that amount. I was up to 7grains ERFA before cutting back and addint the T3......but blood tests never showed my hypothyroidism ....my symptoms, clinical signs and history and family history did...but that was always

ignored since the blood tests remained within range!!!!!

The thing is to keep increasing your thyroid support until you feel better forget the blood tests or rather dont dwell on the blood tests. Also its likely you will need to support your adrenals too...as you say you suffered anxiety for years that is likely andrenal fatigue whereas the depression is more inclinded to be thyroid dysfunction......I have posted a number of posts recently with very detailed info about adrenal glands.

LOL Glad you have a sense of humour it was meant in the nicest possible way!!!! tehe....Sally xx

Thanks Sally, lols at the Wales jibe, I'll be on the Ramipril for a very long time. Generally I feel very tired and fed up. Been ill with depression and anxiety for years, but previous blood tests didn't show up any thyroid problems. >> > > >

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