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I know that coconut oil supreme is from India--it does have a slightly milder

flavor than the Tropical Traditions.

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I 've ordered the coconut oil from India from Wilderness Family Naturals.

It definitely tastes like coconut - I guess it might be a little more mild

than the TT coconut oil I ordered last summer. The biggest difference to me

is that when you eat a spoonful the texture is very smooth. I think it is

very good.

-Linnea

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From: givemeamomenttothink <deweyli@...>

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Sent: Wednesday, March 12, 2003 1:04 PM

Subject: Coconut oil?

> I went on line to order some more Tropical Traditions coconut oil

> from the Wilderness Family Naturals website. They no longer carry

> Tropical Traditions. They now carry two other brands. One is from

> India and the other from the South Pacific. According to the

> information that they give, these coconut oils are the best they have

> come across, the one from India being their favorite. They say that

> the one from India has a mild flavor. That is a big point for me.

> My husband doesn't care for the flavor (I'm assuming the flavors vary

> according to brands) of the Tropical Traditions coconut oil, so I'm

> hoping that the one from India will have a much milder flavor. Here

> is the website link for the two coconut oils they offer, and

> information on both. They also have a page that gives directions for

> making coconut milk kefir. I think I'm going to try that out since

> my son can't have dairy. I'm very excited to have this alternative

> for our family.

>

> http://www.wildernessfamilynaturals.com/mall/virgin_coconut_oil.asp

>

> Has anyone tried either of these coconut oils? How does it compare

> to the Coconut Oil Supreme? I have not tried any of these brands,

> only Tropical Traditions. I'm trying to decide between these three

> brands for my next purchase of coconut oil. As long as they are

> equally good, I would prefer the one that has the mildest flavor.

> Thank you for your help.

>

> Peace and Love of Christ be with you,

> Robin L. :)

>

>

>

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>Has anyone tried either of these coconut oils? How does it compare

>to the Coconut Oil Supreme? I have not tried any of these brands,

>only Tropical Traditions. I'm trying to decide between these three

>brands for my next purchase of coconut oil. As long as they are

>equally good, I would prefer the one that has the mildest flavor.

>Thank you for your help.

I've switched to WFN -- the Indian one IS milder. I think they are

all pretty good, to my taste. However, a lot of my decision

was that I like the lady at WFN a lot!

Heidi S

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> >Has anyone tried either of these coconut oils? How does it compare

> >to the Coconut Oil Supreme? I have not tried any of these brands,

> >only Tropical Traditions. I'm trying to decide between these three

> >brands for my next purchase of coconut oil. As long as they are

> >equally good, I would prefer the one that has the mildest flavor.

> >Thank you for your help.

>

> I've switched to WFN -- the Indian one IS milder. I think they are

> all pretty good, to my taste. However, a lot of my decision

> was that I like the lady at WFN a lot!

I've had no personal interaction with the folks at WFN, but both

times I placed orders on their website they were very quick to ship.

I heartily recommend them. And, the wild rice they sell is really

good.

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In a message dated 3/23/03 6:37:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, je@...

writes:

> At what point does a good thing become bad in as far as saturated fats,

> clogging arteries etc etc I realize coconut oil is beneficial but what is

> therapeutic amounts?

It doesn't clog your arteries.

> There is limit right.. can't just eat like candy??

Candy might clog your arteries. I wouldn't eat it like candy... I would go

easy on the candy, lol...

I'm thinking 1 or 2

> tablespoons a day max? What does everyone think about this issue? Do

alot

> of people in this group eat coconut oil coconut butter? How much? Does

> anyone have links for me more on this subject?

Why? You have to replace the calories with some other food... carb or

protein overload has much more potential for harm than fat overload. And

you'll probably eat even more total calories if you cut back on fat because

of its greater satiety value, unless you increase some kind of vegetable oil,

which would be much more problematic.

I haven't seen a fat expert on coconut oil recommend a _minimum_ that low,

never mind a maximum. If you don't have a problem with your immune system or

some kind of systemic infection, whether fungal, viral, or bacterial, or

parasitical, you probably don't _need_ a lot of coconut oil unless you like

it. If you DO have one of those problems, you probably need at least 4 tbsp

a day.

The problem with saturated fat clogging arteries isn't just overrated, it's

bull, backwards, and a non-issue.

Chris

____

" What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a

heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and

animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of

them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense

compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to

bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature.

Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the

truth, and for those who do them wrong. "

--Saint Isaac the Syrian

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I don't eat it like candy, we use it for cooking and in things. I make

coconut oil mayonaise, use it in smoothies, topped on soft boiled eggs, for

baking, sauteeing everything.

I've used coconut oil for the past 8 years. I have noticed an increase in

immunity as the level of coconut oil (and homemade coconut milk) in our diet

increases.

So far there has only been one ilness this entire year for our family. My 3

year old had a cough and cold that lasted 4--5 days. That's it. The other 3

children have been healthy as horses around here. Me too.

Elainie

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It is extremely difficult to overeat on the good fats, coconut oil and

saturated animal fats. When the body has had enough it just shuts down and

when you point that last spoonful at your mouth the tummy goes, " Oh, yuk! "

And you proceed at your own risk.

Judith Alta

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I did a search on Google to try and find out health benefits of coconut

oil.... below was something I found>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Coconut oil is high (above 50%) in lauric acid, a saturated fatty

acid which does NOT raise your cholesterol or clog your arteries.

Countries where coconut oil is a mainstay incedently have no heart disease,

diabetes, or strokes. The oils you really should be concerned with are

refined, hydrogenated, and adulterated oils which are touted as

healthy because they're 100% " vegetable " oil, but they're not

~from everything I have been reading I understand that coconut oil is really

really good for you however, I am wondering at what point does it become

detrimental??

At what point does a good thing become bad in as far as saturated fats,

clogging arteries etc etc I realize coconut oil is beneficial but what is

therapeutic amounts?

There is limit right.. can't just eat like candy?? I'm thinking 1 or 2

tablespoons a day max? What does everyone think about this issue? Do alot

of people in this group eat coconut oil coconut butter? How much? Does

anyone have links for me more on this subject?

thanks

jen

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Thanks, Chris

That's what I should have said in my last post.

For the nitty gritty on how we've been lied to about saturated fats read Dr.

Uffe Ravnskov's " Cholesterol Myths. "

When studies did not favor the low-fat idea the people behind it just said

it was because of " pre-existing conditions " or that the " study was flawed, "

even though they could not say how it was flawed.

The whole mess is disgusting - And to me premeditated murder. Why else would

they recommend that a Type !! diabetic be put on a carb diet?

Judith Alta

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In a message dated 3/23/03 6:37:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, je@...

writes:

> At what point does a good thing become bad in as far as saturated fats,

> clogging arteries etc etc I realize coconut oil is beneficial but what

is

> therapeutic amounts?

It doesn't clog your arteries.

> There is limit right.. can't just eat like candy??

Candy might clog your arteries. I wouldn't eat it like candy... I would go

easy on the candy, lol...

I'm thinking 1 or 2

> tablespoons a day max? What does everyone think about this issue? Do

alot

> of people in this group eat coconut oil coconut butter? How much? Does

> anyone have links for me more on this subject?

Why? You have to replace the calories with some other food... carb or

protein overload has much more potential for harm than fat overload. And

you'll probably eat even more total calories if you cut back on fat because

of its greater satiety value, unless you increase some kind of vegetable

oil,

which would be much more problematic.

I haven't seen a fat expert on coconut oil recommend a _minimum_ that low,

never mind a maximum. If you don't have a problem with your immune system

or

some kind of systemic infection, whether fungal, viral, or bacterial, or

parasitical, you probably don't _need_ a lot of coconut oil unless you like

it. If you DO have one of those problems, you probably need at least 4 tbsp

a day.

The problem with saturated fat clogging arteries isn't just overrated, it's

bull, backwards, and a non-issue.

Chris

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Nope. Since I have a pretty large family (six total) is gets used up right

away.

I use 2-3 egg yolks (we did a taste test and decided we like yolk onlly mayo

but you could use the whole egg) a tab. of mustard (homemade or organic

Dijon) process that in a processor. Add liquified coconut oil (2/3 cup or

more) by the drop until it gets thick.

Then go ahead and add lemon juice to taste, sea salt and pepper if desired.

You can also add whey like Sally says.

Elainie

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,

I hope you are well and for the record I love your questions.

I want to point something out here and I do NOT mean it personally

because I catch myself doing things like this from time to time too.

I want to point out the level of brainwashing we've undergone which

you demonstrate in your question.

In assuming that 'at some point coconut oil becomes detrimental'

Realize once and for all that there is NO connection between

Saturated Fats and " clogging of arteries " anymore than there's a

connection between blond hair and athlete's food. There is NO

connection. Eat a hundred pounds of Coconut oil a day and something

weird will happen but it won't be clogged arteries.

The question also assumes that there must be some kind of " danger "

in eating too much coconut oil.

Now to answer your question. Certainly there is a point that

consuming any food to excess will bring deminishing returns, however

most real whole foods do not need to be approached with such

caution, usually to have harm from whole foods the level of excess

would be pretty remarkable before harm came. Certainly there are

exceptions to that but they are few. Your much more likely to be

damaged by minimal exposures to household products, car fumes,

offgassing building supplies than from a wholesome food stuff like

coconut oil.

That being said I'd say that the therapeutic benefits you desire are

for most folks between 3 and 5 tbs per day. You could consume more

safely however that is usually not necessary and you could probably

use some other excellent food that would provide some variety.

I hope this helps. I also hope you don't take this personally I am

not at all saying YOU are brainwashed I am saying that I see all of

us including myself looking at things with a somewhat warped

perspective and because of the cultural " brainwashing " we experience

we wind up cautious about safe things and carefree about deadly

things.

DMM

www.cedarcanyonclinic.com

--- In , " Evely " <je@h...>

wrote:

> I did a search on Google to try and find out health benefits of

coconut

> oil.... below was something I found>>>>>>>>>>>>>

>

>

>

> Coconut oil is high (above 50%) in lauric acid, a saturated fatty

> acid which does NOT raise your cholesterol or clog your arteries.

> Countries where coconut oil is a mainstay incedently have no heart

disease,

> diabetes, or strokes. The oils you really should be concerned

with are

> refined, hydrogenated, and adulterated oils which are touted as

> healthy because they're 100% " vegetable " oil, but they're not

>

>

> ~from everything I have been reading I understand that coconut oil

is really

> really good for you however, I am wondering at what point does it

become

> detrimental??

> At what point does a good thing become bad in as far as saturated

fats,

> clogging arteries etc etc I realize coconut oil is beneficial

but what is

> therapeutic amounts?

> There is limit right.. can't just eat like candy?? I'm thinking 1

or 2

> tablespoons a day max? What does everyone think about this

issue? Do alot

> of people in this group eat coconut oil coconut butter? How

much? Does

> anyone have links for me more on this subject?

> thanks

>

> jen

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Elaine,

What is your coconut mayonaise receipe? Can you store it in the refrig. without

it becoming hard?

Thanks,

Jafa

zumicat@... wrote:I don't eat it like candy, we use it for cooking and in

things. I make

coconut oil mayonaise, use it in smoothies, topped on soft boiled eggs, for

baking, sauteeing everything.

I've used coconut oil for the past 8 years. I have noticed an increase in

immunity as the level of coconut oil (and homemade coconut milk) in our diet

increases.

So far there has only been one ilness this entire year for our family. My 3

year old had a cough and cold that lasted 4--5 days. That's it. The other 3

children have been healthy as horses around here. Me too.

Elainie

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Rogene,

I use my coconut oil in several ways...

I bake with it, replacing butter and other oils in the recipe with coconut oil. (However, you don't really know how much you are ingesting when you eat the finished product.)

I mix a Tablespoon with hot drinks and of course, that melts it. I put it in chai latte, hot cocoa (which I don't indulge in that often, but it tastes great!) and other hot tasty drinks. I have not tried it in plain old tea yet. I enjoy a cup of hot chai latte in the evenings though or on cold mornings.

I use it on my body for lotions or scalp rubs.

Maybe you could try it on toast? Whatever you do, I think it is best melted. I cannot take it by the spoonful like , it's too gross to me that way!

I think there are some more ideas on some of the websites that sell coconut oil, but my favorite way is with a hot creamy drink.

Patty

----- Original Message -----

From: Rogene S

Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 9:54 AM

Subject: coconut oil?

I received my coconut oil today and am looking for ideas on how to use it . . .

Rogene

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My mom sent me a link to a site advertising coconut oil for candida treatment.

I ordered it because I figured I would give it a try. Has anyone heard of the

success of coconut oil?

thanks

" Those who understand compound interest are destined to collect it. Those who

don't are doomed to pay it. "

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Hi Dan,

You should be eating virgin or extra-virgin, unrefined coconut oil.

The palpitations you're getting are part of a die-off reaction.

Coconut Oil is a powerful antifungal and will cause candida to die-off.

Some people are extremely sensitive to coconut oil (meaning it causes

them to get strong or quite uncomfortable) die-off symptoms. If that

is the case with you, you should start out with a very small amount of

coconut oil, even as small as 1/2 teaspoon and build up your tolerance

gradually.

There are a variety of symptoms that are considered to be part of

" die-off " , palpitations are definitely one of them. Take a look at the

File called, " C) Healing Naturally & Die-Off Symptoms " in the Files

section of our group site for articles that will explain the

natural healing/die-off process so you can understand it more thoroughly.

jackie

>

> Coconut oil has been recommended many times, but every time I try it

I get palpitations.

> Does it depend on the brand, the amount, or perhaps the balance of

omega 3 fats??

>

> And does anyone else get this reaction?

>

> THANKS IN ADVANCE,

>

> Dan

>

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I hope you're right Jackie! :) I wouldn't want to drop dead of a heart

attack...

d.

> >

> > Coconut oil has been recommended many times, but every time I try it

> I get palpitations.

> > Does it depend on the brand, the amount, or perhaps the balance of

> omega 3 fats??

> >

> > And does anyone else get this reaction?

> >

> > THANKS IN ADVANCE,

> >

> > Dan

> >

>

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> I hope you're right Jackie! :) I wouldn't want to drop dead of a

heart attack...

>

==>Dan. If you are concerned about your palpitations please check it

out with the doctor.

Bee

>

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