Re: Rancidity

[Guest guest]

> Also, not to dredge up the preservative controversy again, but . . .Is

> the point of preservatives to make the soaps resist rancidity, or resist

> bacteria, or both?

I don't know where the idea of soap needing a preservative got started. For

the umpteenth time, soap does NOT need a preservative. It is a good idea to

add an antioxidant to soap to prevent rancidity. Antioxidants are NOT

preservatives. If you are not selling your soap, I wouldn't even bother

using an antioxidant. I have soaps that are 3 years old-give or take-that

have no antioxidants and they are fine.

Pat.

Peace, Joy, Serenity.

www.houseofscents.com

Cosmeticinfo

[Guest guest]

Yes, but what if you're using fruit or veg in your soap (CP, M & P or HP)?

Should one be used then?

Trace

>

> I don't know where the idea of soap needing a preservative got started.

For

> the umpteenth time, soap does NOT need a preservative. It is a good idea

to

> add an antioxidant to soap to prevent rancidity. Antioxidants are NOT

> preservatives. If you are not selling your soap, I wouldn't even bother

> using an antioxidant. I have soaps that are 3 years old-give or take-that

> have no antioxidants and they are fine.

>

> Pat.

> Peace, Joy, Serenity.

> www.houseofscents.com

> Cosmeticinfo

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Sounds like the same recipe I've used. No probs tho that I know of.

I'll check with my sister on soap I gave her a year ago that she just

" looks " at and smells. Does it smell bad? Did you use VEGETABLE

shortening?

Barb J

On Fri, 6 Oct 2000 22:35:26 -0700 " richard saling " <rsaling@...>

writes:

> I have made several batches of soap and have had my sucesses and

> failures. Since I've learned to mix lye and oils at a lower

> temperature the sucess rate has greatly increased. So with that in

> mind, here's my question. My first batch of soap was lavender with

> lavender buds in the mix. The recipe was coconut oil, shortening,

> olive oil,and lye and water . At trace I added lavender eo and

> patchouli eo and lavender buds. Now 6 months later the few bars I

> have remaining from that batch have turned rancid. It has been kept

> in a cool, dark, dry environment. What went wrong? Puzzled and

> hoping someone can help find an answer. TIA Deby

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

To Amy and Barb J in particular ( since you're the ones who answered)

The recipe is as follows:

24 oz. olive oil

24 oz. Coconut oil

38 oz. crisco

32 oz. cold water

12 oz. lye

3.75 lavender eo

1/2 c. lavender buds

I had to throw away the soap because it smelled sooooo bad. And I don't know

why. So if either one of you knows why, I'd really appreciate the info.

Thanks again. Deby

[Guest guest]

If the oil is going rancid because of moisture, it is a bad thing.

Alobar

On 10/17/06, Marjorie Tietjen <daystar1952@...> wrote:

> I don't know but somehow I don't think it's a bad thing

>

> Margie

>

> Bonnie Cole <bonnieview@...> wrote:

> Margie:

>

> I have the same problem and I just purchased and opened a brand new jar which

an expiry date in 2009 but I also get the catch in my throat if I don't take it

with something and I cough and have to clear my throat for awhile. I wonder why

that is?

>

> Bonnie

>

[Guest guest]

> > Margie:

> >

> > I have the same problem and I just purchased and opened a brand

new jar which an expiry date in 2009 but I also get the catch in my

throat if I don't take it with something and I cough and have to

clear my throat for awhile. I wonder why that is?

> >

> > Bonnie

> >

>

I do the same thing, a catch in the throat is from the acid in the

coconut oil , it's not rancid. solution= don't take it straight put

it on bread or coffee etc. I brush my teeth with coconut oil.,

(straight)

[Guest guest]

How do you know it isn't rancid?

Alobar

On 10/18/06, jemark76 <jemark76@...> wrote:

> I do the same thing, a catch in the throat is from the acid in the

> coconut oil , it's not rancid. solution= don't take it straight put

> it on bread or coffee etc. I brush my teeth with coconut oil.,

> (straight)

>

>

[Guest guest]

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vco does that to me to. It does have a slight burning feeling when

taking it neat, when i think about it. Acidity sounds more feasible

than it being rancid. My jars are new and i don't believe everyone

that gets a catch in their throat has rancid jars of vco.

SAlly

-- In Coconut Oil , " jemark76 "

<jemark76@...> wrote:

>

>

> > > Margie:

> > >

> > > I have the same problem and I just purchased and opened a

brand

> new jar which an expiry date in 2009 but I also get the catch in

my

> throat if I don't take it with something and I cough and have to

> clear my throat for awhile. I wonder why that is?

> > >

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> >

> I do the same thing, a catch in the throat is from the acid in

the

> coconut oil , it's not rancid. solution= don't take it straight

put

> it on bread or coffee etc. I brush my teeth with coconut oil.,

> (straight)

>

[Guest guest]

> > > Margie:

> > >

> > > I have the same problem and I just purchased and opened a

brand

> new jar which an expiry date in 2009 but I also get the catch in

my

> throat if I don't take it with something and I cough and have to

> clear my throat for awhile. I wonder why that is?

> > >

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> >

> I do the same thing, a catch in the throat is from the acid in

the

> coconut oil , it's not rancid. solution= don't take it straight

put

> it on bread or coffee etc. I brush my teeth with coconut oil.,

> (straight)

>

[Guest guest]

I thought one of the benefits of coconut oil was that it was stable and doesn't

go rancid very easily.

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[Guest guest]

I use VCO mixed with baking soda as my toothpaste. It works wonderfully.

It has reduced inflammation in my gums, and the pockets have shrunk. I have

been able to avoid periodontal work because of this toothpaste.

Nina

Re: Rancidity

Does coconut oil clean teeth then? Does it remove stains because if

it doesn't it will not be suitable for me. Could you mix bi-carb

with it I wonder, or would that not be a good mix?

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[Guest guest]

I've never thought of doing that! Is it not super-gross, though? I would

think it would leave an oily film in the mouth . . . I currently use baking

soda and peroxide as my toothpaste.

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On 10/18/06, Nina Moliver <yoganina@...> wrote:

>

> I use VCO mixed with baking soda as my toothpaste. It works wonderfully.

> It has reduced inflammation in my gums, and the pockets have shrunk. I

> have

> been able to avoid periodontal work because of this toothpaste.

>

> Nina

>

> Re: Rancidity

>

>

> Does coconut oil clean teeth then? Does it remove stains because if

> it doesn't it will not be suitable for me. Could you mix bi-carb

> with it I wonder, or would that not be a good mix?

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[Guest guest]

No oily film. Remember - VCO does not behave like other fats.

Nina

> > Does coconut oil clean teeth then? Does it remove stains because

if

> > it doesn't it will not be suitable for me. Could you mix bi-carb

> > with it I wonder, or would that not be a good mix?

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> " New Baby " is 12 weeks old!

> Just 28 more weeks until Leah &

> get a new baby brother or sister!

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I know, but when I use it to grease pans and the like it does leave a film

on my hands that is difficult to wash off, even with hot water and soap.

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On 10/18/06, nmoliver1 <yoganina@...> wrote:

>

> No oily film. Remember - VCO does not behave like other fats.

>

> Nina

>

>

> > > Does coconut oil clean teeth then? Does it remove stains because

> if

> > > it doesn't it will not be suitable for me. Could you mix bi-carb

> > > with it I wonder, or would that not be a good mix?

> > > --

> > > No virus found in this outgoing message.

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> 10/16/2006

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> > >

> >

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> > " New Baby " is 12 weeks old!

> > Just 28 more weeks until Leah &

> > get a new baby brother or sister!

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hello:

Dr. Bruce said in one of his books, that VCO will last much longer if it's

refrigerated and so when I buy SEVERAL jars at one time, I put them all in the

fridge except the one I'm using.

Bonnie

Re: Rancidity

-

vco does that to me to. It does have a slight burning feeling when

taking it neat, when i think about it. Acidity sounds more feasible

than it being rancid. My jars are new and i don't believe everyone

that gets a catch in their throat has rancid jars of vco.

SAlly

-- In Coconut Oil , " jemark76 "

<jemark76@...> wrote:

>

>

> > > Margie:

> > >

> > > I have the same problem and I just purchased and opened a

brand

> new jar which an expiry date in 2009 but I also get the catch in

my

> throat if I don't take it with something and I cough and have to

> clear my throat for awhile. I wonder why that is?

> > >

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> >

> I do the same thing, a catch in the throat is from the acid in

the

> coconut oil , it's not rancid. solution= don't take it straight

put

> it on bread or coffee etc. I brush my teeth with coconut oil.,

> (straight)

>

[Guest guest]

This is my experience with this and it may not be correct but here

goes. I get that funny feeling in my throat whenever the container

to

a product is plastic and contain certain liquids that are stored in

it for awhile.

My thinking is that it is the plastic leaching into the liquid.

I've

had this occur with my first purchase. Now, I purchase only VCO in

glass containers and no problems.

>

> I thought one of the benefits of coconut oil was that it was

stable

and doesn't go rancid very easily.

>

>

>

>

>

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>

[Guest guest]

The “burning” or “catch” in the back of the throat is caused by poor

quality (i.e. rancid) oil. When coconut oil starts to go rancid the

acidity of the oil increases. The irritation in the throat is caused by

the acid. Coconut oil is a very stable oil, if it is processed properly.

If not, then it can start to go rancid in the bottle before you even

open it.

Bruce Fife

Re: Rancidity

-

vco does that to me to. It does have a slight burning feeling when

taking it neat, when i think about it. Acidity sounds more feasible

than it being rancid. My jars are new and i don't believe everyone

that gets a catch in their throat has rancid jars of vco.

SAlly

-- In coconut_oil_ <mailto:Coconut Oil%40>

open_forum , " jemark76 "

<jemark76@...> wrote:

>

>

> > > Margie:

> > >

> > > I have the same problem and I just purchased and opened a

brand

> new jar which an expiry date in 2009 but I also get the catch in

my

> throat if I don't take it with something and I cough and have to

> clear my throat for awhile. I wonder why that is?

> > >

> > > Bonnie

> > >

> >

> I do the same thing, a catch in the throat is from the acid in

the

> coconut oil , it's not rancid. solution= don't take it straight

put

> it on bread or coffee etc. I brush my teeth with coconut oil.,

> (straight)

>

[Guest guest]

Thankyou so much for this thought. I ordered mine in a gallon plastic jug. It

tastes so good and looks so pure that I can't bear to throw it out. Plus I'm not

sure if that feeling in my throat is not all in my head. It is very mild and

probably would not notice it if it were not for the discussion on this. So, ya

think it's ok to use still?

Margie

fire888earth <sharmika@...> wrote:

This is my experience with this and it may not be correct but here

goes. I get that funny feeling in my throat whenever the container

to

a product is plastic and contain certain liquids that are stored in

it for awhile.

My thinking is that it is the plastic leaching into the liquid.

I've

had this occur with my first purchase. Now, I purchase only VCO in

glass containers and no problems.

>

> I thought one of the benefits of coconut oil was that it was

stable

and doesn't go rancid very easily.

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I buy my coconut oil in glass jars also and have the same reaction. But, I also

get the same thing with olive oil. I know it is not rancid as I get the same

feeling with every brand I have tried and I know they all can't be rancid. I am

beginning to think that is just the way some people react to the different oils.

Deb

[Guest guest]

Thanks Deb....I like that explanation!

Deb Comcast <deborah.harper@...> wrote: I buy my coconut oil in

glass jars also and have the same reaction. But, I also get the same thing with

olive oil. I know it is not rancid as I get the same feeling with every brand I

have tried and I know they all can't be rancid. I am beginning to think that is

just the way some people react to the different oils.

Deb