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Re: Cebukaw, sibucao, sibukaw plant's medicial properties

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#1 *guest

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Posted 10 October 2003 - 08:21 AM

Again, I will say...Herbs do NOTHING for the disease or the liver and
many can cause MAJOR problems.

Because there are no studies on herbal remedies be extremely careful
of what you put into your body!!!! The liver has to filter everything
you put in and some of these things can actually KILL you.

LeighAnn

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Posted 08 October 2003 - 11:08 AM

Found an address in the country to check on the availability of this
plant @ this site. http://plants.usda.g...nt_profile.cgi?
symbol=CASA28#guides
Click on resource & reference.



> elr: got this post from another health-related list - this one
coming from
> somebody who has an elevated AFP. googled and found out its
scientific name
> is caesalpinia sappan. interesting thing about this sibukaw. and
its just
> right here! =) . i'm now into milk thistle (healthy options brand
175mg, 2
> caps 3xdaily). now if only mary thistle could also grow in the
philippines
> =) .
>
> =====
>
> angelq@xxxx writes:
>
> In all my conversations with the 'good doctors and specialists' I
> have not heard that this kind of ailment is cancer. Perhaps it is.
>
> Anyway, it has always been my way to 'discover' even at the risk
> of making myself the 'test' case. Even in my work in life, my
> dedication was to discover and to help others proceed from what
have
> been started or discovered.
>
> If it were otherwise and I concentrated instead on successful
> achievements for gain or profit, I probably would really have been
a
> Senator by now.
>
> ...perhaps I should tell you what I discovered yesterday after a
> met with a the Dean of the College of Medicine of Xavier
University.
>
> Contradicting many other doctors, two of them said that high
> count of the Alpha Feto Protein refers only to a 'disease' of the
> liver and no other organ of the human body.
>
> He is an internist; it is reported that he and his brother
> studied and practice medicine in the States. He came home to attend
> to his parents, while his brother continued to practice in the
> States. Reportedly, he was one of the brain surgeons who attended
to
> President Kennedy in Dallas.
>
> I purposely sought him out becase as an old friend, I wanted to
> tell him of my condition and probably forewarn him of my farewell.
>
> After I described my ailment, he immediately told me that he had
> six patients who had ailments like mine.
>
> Immediately after the diagnosis he just directed them to go
> home. There is simply no cure, and the chemotherapy, he said is
> actually an herbal cure derived from a plant in Argentina. It is
only
> to maintain their survival, not a cure for these kind of cases and
> would be beyond their means. So he believed.
>
> Two years later these patients came to visit, to his surprise. He
> showed me their clinical records. One who just recently visited him
> had survived for ten years now.
>
> The problem he said was the Alpha Feto Protein which when it
> exceeds the normal count of 1 to 5, I think it is, no matter how
> small the 'mass' in the liver, points the direction where one is
> surely to go before his time.
>
> He told me that when he told the German Doctors, about the
> survival rate of his six patients, they were interested. All of
> these six patients merely took the common 'herb' we have in the
> Philippines, caled Cebukaw, or Sibukaw (as pronounced). The old
> people use it to reduce their 'sugar' for diabetes, to find relief
> for their Almoranas, and other diseases including eyesights.
>
> At Xavier University, the German Government, I think is
> supporting a German Doctor who is treating indigent patients for
> free. They visited him and during which he told them of his
> experience with the six patients. They wanted to 'experiment and
find
> the curative value of the plant.'
>
> He went to the Philippine General Hospital and inquired how
> the 'German Doctors' could test and the discover the secret of the
> herb. He was informed that such medical research on Philippine
herbs
> closed to foreigners. So he left it at that. It was a missed
> opportunity, because at that time, the Director of the Bureau of
> Food and Drug, in the Philippines was Doctor Quintin Kintanar who
was
> my room mate at school and a very good friend. He also found that
> other doctors had the same experiences he had with his patients.
>
> If I were in their shoes I would have committed an improper act,
> like my father, give them some 'cuttings' or seeds of the plant.
They
> can plant it somewhere elese. Probably now we would have discovered
> its medical cures. For me this is not a matter for 'profit' but
> for 'life " .
>
> In its raw form, all that is needed are chopped parts of
> the 'wooden branch or trunk to size of a small finger. Three or
four
> of them must be boiled for about twenty minutes until it turns red
> and dark red. It can then be used as normal drinking water.
>
> I tried it before for my diabetes, but upon an opinion of a
> doctor, I quit. He told me the 'side effects' and the volume or
> measurement must first be established... Like the Mahogany tree
> fruit, it reduced the blood pressure, but continued use resulted in
> damage to the liver.
>
> Perhaps, like Auring Cudal, I should keep a record of what I am
> now doing and find out within a few months or weeks, whether my
> Alpha Feto Protein count would change.
>
> I have chosen to use only one laborary from now on and have my
> Secretary keep a record of the results. I am just afraid that at my
> age, it may be indeed be a cure but will not be 'visible' or
> appreciable before my 'real time' comes when my maker will call
me.
>
> Anyway, I was just thinking about the Philippine Parmaceuticals
> companies. I am certain they must have heard of this experience of
my
> doctor and others. They must have started their research and cannot
> make for certain what they wanted that may be commercially viable.
At
> any rate, if they will only try and save lives and perhaps like
> Argentina, provided a source of income for our country. These herbs
> grow wild in Philippines, Jasaan (this is a name of a town)loam
soil
> but the soil as I see it is almost the same in almost all parts of
> the country. Naturally there should be water and sunshine, normal
> in the Philippines.
>
> Please, do not worry about me. Tell others. The only thing that I
> am really afraid of will be the expected pains but then the doctor
> friends, have given me so many pain killers before I knew and ask
for
> or need them that I might just open a " drug store for pain
killers. "
>
> In fact, I am very much satisfied that my maker has given a
> leeway of six months or more to set my affairs in order.
>
> Again, for all of you my thanks for your concern and prayers. I
> am not yet out. Sebukaw may just come to the rescue by the will of
> the Almighty.
>
> Regards,
> Angel
>
>
>
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#3 *guest

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Posted 08 October 2003 - 08:42 AM

elr: got this post from another health-related list - this one coming from
somebody who has an elevated AFP. googled and found out its scientific name
is caesalpinia sappan. interesting thing about this sibukaw. and its just
right here! =) . i'm now into milk thistle (healthy options brand 175mg, 2
caps 3xdaily). now if only mary thistle could also grow in the philippines
=) .

=====

angelq@xxxx writes:

In all my conversations with the 'good doctors and specialists' I
have not heard that this kind of ailment is cancer. Perhaps it is.

Anyway, it has always been my way to 'discover' even at the risk
of making myself the 'test' case. Even in my work in life, my
dedication was to discover and to help others proceed from what have
been started or discovered.

If it were otherwise and I concentrated instead on successful
achievements for gain or profit, I probably would really have been a
Senator by now.

....perhaps I should tell you what I discovered yesterday after a
met with a the Dean of the College of Medicine of Xavier University.

Contradicting many other doctors, two of them said that high
count of the Alpha Feto Protein refers only to a 'disease' of the
liver and no other organ of the human body.

He is an internist; it is reported that he and his brother
studied and practice medicine in the States. He came home to attend
to his parents, while his brother continued to practice in the
States. Reportedly, he was one of the brain surgeons who attended to
President Kennedy in Dallas.

I purposely sought him out becase as an old friend, I wanted to
tell him of my condition and probably forewarn him of my farewell.

After I described my ailment, he immediately told me that he had
six patients who had ailments like mine.

Immediately after the diagnosis he just directed them to go
home. There is simply no cure, and the chemotherapy, he said is
actually an herbal cure derived from a plant in Argentina. It is only
to maintain their survival, not a cure for these kind of cases and
would be beyond their means. So he believed.

Two years later these patients came to visit, to his surprise. He
showed me their clinical records. One who just recently visited him
had survived for ten years now.

The problem he said was the Alpha Feto Protein which when it
exceeds the normal count of 1 to 5, I think it is, no matter how
small the 'mass' in the liver, points the direction where one is
surely to go before his time.

He told me that when he told the German Doctors, about the
survival rate of his six patients, they were interested. All of
these six patients merely took the common 'herb' we have in the
Philippines, caled Cebukaw, or Sibukaw (as pronounced). The old
people use it to reduce their 'sugar' for diabetes, to find relief
for their Almoranas, and other diseases including eyesights.

At Xavier University, the German Government, I think is
supporting a German Doctor who is treating indigent patients for
free. They visited him and during which he told them of his
experience with the six patients. They wanted to 'experiment and find
the curative value of the plant.'

He went to the Philippine General Hospital and inquired how
the 'German Doctors' could test and the discover the secret of the
herb. He was informed that such medical research on Philippine herbs
closed to foreigners. So he left it at that. It was a missed
opportunity, because at that time, the Director of the Bureau of
Food and Drug, in the Philippines was Doctor Quintin Kintanar who was
my room mate at school and a very good friend. He also found that
other doctors had the same experiences he had with his patients.

If I were in their shoes I would have committed an improper act,
like my father, give them some 'cuttings' or seeds of the plant. They
can plant it somewhere elese. Probably now we would have discovered
its medical cures. For me this is not a matter for 'profit' but
for 'life " .

In its raw form, all that is needed are chopped parts of
the 'wooden branch or trunk to size of a small finger. Three or four
of them must be boiled for about twenty minutes until it turns red
and dark red. It can then be used as normal drinking water.

I tried it before for my diabetes, but upon an opinion of a
doctor, I quit. He told me the 'side effects' and the volume or
measurement must first be established... Like the Mahogany tree
fruit, it reduced the blood pressure, but continued use resulted in
damage to the liver.

Perhaps, like Auring Cudal, I should keep a record of what I am
now doing and find out within a few months or weeks, whether my
Alpha Feto Protein count would change.

I have chosen to use only one laborary from now on and have my
Secretary keep a record of the results. I am just afraid that at my
age, it may be indeed be a cure but will not be 'visible' or
appreciable before my 'real time' comes when my maker will call me.

Anyway, I was just thinking about the Philippine Parmaceuticals
companies. I am certain they must have heard of this experience of my
doctor and others. They must have started their research and cannot
make for certain what they wanted that may be commercially viable. At
any rate, if they will only try and save lives and perhaps like
Argentina, provided a source of income for our country. These herbs
grow wild in Philippines, Jasaan (this is a name of a town)loam soil
but the soil as I see it is almost the same in almost all parts of
the country. Naturally there should be water and sunshine, normal
in the Philippines.

Please, do not worry about me. Tell others. The only thing that I
am really afraid of will be the expected pains but then the doctor
friends, have given me so many pain killers before I knew and ask for
or need them that I might just open a " drug store for pain killers. "

In fact, I am very much satisfied that my maker has given a
leeway of six months or more to set my affairs in order.

Again, for all of you my thanks for your concern and prayers. I
am not yet out. Sebukaw may just come to the rescue by the will of
the Almighty.

Regards,
Angel



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leave your family parrot with the town gossip
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