pain relief

[Guest guest]

Would like to know what everyone does for pain when they get a headache, or

the body aches when they get the flu, or flu like symptoms from interfuron.

Thank you,

Cleo

[Guest guest]

Hi Cleo,

I have Arthritis and I'm also taking interferon which causes headaches,

muscle aches, etc.

Since the amount of ibuprofen or tylenol that I'd need to take to releave my

pains would be harmful for my liver, my doctor has me taking Darvon, 65mg.

when needed for pain. It works great for my pain, but I also have to take

an ibuprofen for fever at times (just not on a regular basis). Darvon has

nothing for fever.

Good luck,

Marie

[Guest guest]

I take three asprin and a 10 mg campozine about 45 mins before i do my shot.and

it helps very very much..Rowena

CleoraB@... wrote:

> From: CleoraB@...

>

> Would like to know what everyone does for pain when they get a headache, or

> the body aches when they get the flu, or flu like symptoms from interfuron.

> Thank you,

> Cleo

>

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[Guest guest]

hi,

a hot bath with good ol' epsom salts has been doing wonders

for my muscles cramps. if you have a partner have her/him massage your

muscles right after your bath, while they are still warm.

talyne

[Guest guest]

Gail have you tried the creme called Aspercreme? it helps me when I need an

added boost to my aspirin or something for muscle aches and joint aches.

It's no cure and is just a temp solution but helps me. It's a cream you rub

on the area that hurts.

alley/

ICQ 12631861

alleypat@...

http://www.flash.net/~alleypat

[Guest guest]

Gail have you tried the creme called Aspercreme? it helps me when I need an

added boost to my aspirin or something for muscle aches and joint aches.

It's no cure and is just a temp solution but helps me. It's a cream you rub

on the area that hurts.

alley/

ICQ 12631861

alleypat@...

http://www.flash.net/~alleypat

[Guest guest]

Gail have you tried the creme called Aspercreme? it helps me when I need an

added boost to my aspirin or something for muscle aches and joint aches.

It's no cure and is just a temp solution but helps me. It's a cream you rub

on the area that hurts.

alley/

ICQ 12631861

alleypat@...

http://www.flash.net/~alleypat

[Guest guest]

Gail have you tried the creme called Aspercreme? it helps me when I need an

added boost to my aspirin or something for muscle aches and joint aches.

It's no cure and is just a temp solution but helps me. It's a cream you rub

on the area that hurts.

alley/

ICQ 12631861

alleypat@...

http://www.flash.net/~alleypat

[Guest guest]

Speaking of creams a lady told me about one that

worked very good. It is called Mobisyl. She told me

the only place she had found it was in Walgreens, but

that was in FL. I got some of it and it really did

work had tried Aspercreme, Flexerall and others and

they did not work. Even, the one workmen's comp Dr

gave me for bilateral Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, does not

work as well as the Mobisyl (the colors on the box are

red, white and blue she told me to help me find

it)........Connie

--- alley/ <alleypat@...> wrote:

> Gail have you tried the creme called Aspercreme? it

> helps me when I need an

> added boost to my aspirin or something for muscle

> aches and joint aches.

> It's no cure and is just a temp solution but helps

> me. It's a cream you rub

> on the area that hurts.

> alley/

> ICQ 12631861

> alleypat@...

> http://www.flash.net/~alleypat

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Speaking of creams a lady told me about one that

worked very good. It is called Mobisyl. She told me

the only place she had found it was in Walgreens, but

that was in FL. I got some of it and it really did

work had tried Aspercreme, Flexerall and others and

they did not work. Even, the one workmen's comp Dr

gave me for bilateral Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, does not

work as well as the Mobisyl (the colors on the box are

red, white and blue she told me to help me find

it)........Connie

--- alley/ <alleypat@...> wrote:

> Gail have you tried the creme called Aspercreme? it

> helps me when I need an

> added boost to my aspirin or something for muscle

> aches and joint aches.

> It's no cure and is just a temp solution but helps

> me. It's a cream you rub

> on the area that hurts.

> alley/

> ICQ 12631861

> alleypat@...

> http://www.flash.net/~alleypat

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Speaking of creams a lady told me about one that

worked very good. It is called Mobisyl. She told me

the only place she had found it was in Walgreens, but

that was in FL. I got some of it and it really did

work had tried Aspercreme, Flexerall and others and

they did not work. Even, the one workmen's comp Dr

gave me for bilateral Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, does not

work as well as the Mobisyl (the colors on the box are

red, white and blue she told me to help me find

it)........Connie

--- alley/ <alleypat@...> wrote:

> Gail have you tried the creme called Aspercreme? it

> helps me when I need an

> added boost to my aspirin or something for muscle

> aches and joint aches.

> It's no cure and is just a temp solution but helps

> me. It's a cream you rub

> on the area that hurts.

> alley/

> ICQ 12631861

> alleypat@...

> http://www.flash.net/~alleypat

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Speaking of creams a lady told me about one that

worked very good. It is called Mobisyl. She told me

the only place she had found it was in Walgreens, but

that was in FL. I got some of it and it really did

work had tried Aspercreme, Flexerall and others and

they did not work. Even, the one workmen's comp Dr

gave me for bilateral Carpal Tunnel Syndrome, does not

work as well as the Mobisyl (the colors on the box are

red, white and blue she told me to help me find

it)........Connie

--- alley/ <alleypat@...> wrote:

> Gail have you tried the creme called Aspercreme? it

> helps me when I need an

> added boost to my aspirin or something for muscle

> aches and joint aches.

> It's no cure and is just a temp solution but helps

> me. It's a cream you rub

> on the area that hurts.

> alley/

> ICQ 12631861

> alleypat@...

> http://www.flash.net/~alleypat

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 9/19/00 1:48:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

lewismiller@... writes:

<< I now ask does anyone take

anything for pain that works well without being so rough on the

stomach,,thank you,,lp friend lewis

>>

,

I take Tylenol for pain which it doesn't upset my stomach. Soaking in a warm

tub works as well as propping yourself up with plenty of pillows when you

sleep. Another thing is invest in a back massager.

Helen

[Guest guest]

I am no expert, but wasn't marijuana touted as an

anti-nausea agent and an appetite stimulant?

There is the argument that other, effective drugs are

available and are routinely given to stem the nausea

from chemotherapy.

Pain medication is another story. New drugs are

available to stem pain, but tight controls seem

necessary since some of these drugs are now being

diverted to the illicit drug market (e.g. Oxicontin).

--- Judit Luger <luger@...> wrote:

> The use of Mariuana for pain relief has been

> legalized in Canada. (Last

> week). I remember when people doing chemotherapy had

> to buy the stuff

> illegally in order to stiffle the pain caused by

> some of the unbearable

> side effects of chemo. Some of them can be worse

> than the cancer per se.

> Pain is a terrible thing that can completely

> demoralize a person. But I

> don't really think that cancer patients want to

> spend a part of their life

> sleeping (morphine and others) that is a side effect

> of these pain killers.

> What are the side effects of mariuana? Can one still

> function while smoking

> or eating (?) it?

> A stupid question but I really want an answer. Judit

>

>

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

check out marijuana at these sites:

http://www.whitman.edu/offices_departments/biology/Stuproj/YoungB/

http://www.allsands.com/Health/Alternative/effectsofmari_xho_gn.htm

http://archive.nandotimes.com/newsroom/ntn/nation/082196/nation7_902.html

http://www.whitman.edu/offices_departments/biology/Stuproj/YoungB/physio.htm

l

I hope this helps to answer your questions.

Re: Pain Relief

> The use of Mariuana for pain relief has been legalized in Canada. (Last

> week). I remember when people doing chemotherapy had to buy the stuff

> illegally in order to stiffle the pain caused by some of the unbearable

> side effects of chemo. Some of them can be worse than the cancer per se.

> Pain is a terrible thing that can completely demoralize a person. But I

> don't really think that cancer patients want to spend a part of their life

> sleeping (morphine and others) that is a side effect of these pain

killers.

> What are the side effects of mariuana? Can one still function while

smoking

> or eating (?) it?

> A stupid question but I really want an answer. Judit

>

>

>

> Let's keep the list UNCLUTTERED!!!

>

> To do ANY HOUSEKEEPING business such as changing the way you get mail,

please go to mygoups or mail me at

> scott_fs@....

>

>

[Guest guest]

The use of Mariuana for pain relief has been legalized in Canada. (Last

week). I remember when people doing chemotherapy had to buy the stuff

illegally in order to stiffle the pain caused by some of the unbearable

side effects of chemo. Some of them can be worse than the cancer per se.

Pain is a terrible thing that can completely demoralize a person. But I

don't really think that cancer patients want to spend a part of their life

sleeping (morphine and others) that is a side effect of these pain killers.

What are the side effects of mariuana? Can one still function while smoking

or eating (?) it?

A stupid question but I really want an answer. Judit

[Guest guest]

Hey ,,

How have you been doing? I know what your going thru!! The other day at the hospital the ER doctor asked me,,, so what is a good day like for you? I said I dont have good days anymore!!! lol,,,,, your right,,, people like us with chronic conditons that there is no cure for have to have some relief,,,,, I will never be able to live without pain meds,, and will be on them for the rest of my life,,, unless by some miracle there is a cure for the conditions that I have,,,, so why worry about addictions? I hope you and your sons are doing well,,,,

pain relief

Hello all,

I have generalized chronic muskoskeletal as well as joint pain (if my pain is a "6" on a scale from 1 - 10, I'm grateful, seriously...I cannot remember what it feels like not to hurt, only that there once was such a time in my life) from various chronic health conditions. I take a combination of Darvocet 100, Fioricet, and at night, Soma is added to the "cocktail". This "cocktail" works for me, though I have noticed that I have now reached a point where I need to take it more often that I used to due to increased tolerance. I plan to discuss alternate pain control at my next appt. I ceased being concerned about becoming addicted long ago. I have to live and function on some level, and we make trade-offs, don't we? Unfortunately, I cannot tolerate hydracodone, coedine, vicadin, or some of the other more effective pain medications due to my IBS. I know there are risks, as do ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ The Being Sick CommunityMessage Archives and Digest Attachment Pictures:-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Daily Chats at /chatBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful./linksPersonal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderator email: -owner Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email.3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into groups at your convenience and receive no email.To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /joinTo subscribe or unsubscribe please email:--subscribe -unsubscribe ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~When nothing is sure, everything is possible.--- Margaret Drabble~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~

[Guest guest]

Hello

I've always wondered about that 1 to 10 pain scale that they use. At

the hospital, they asked me to rate the pain on a scale of 1 to 10, I

said " It's the most pain that I've ever had so I would rate it a 10. " ,

the nurse said " No, 10 is when your arms or legs have been cut off. " and

I answered " That's never happened to me so it's not a valid reference

point for me. " .

Which beta blocker was it that made you faint? I fainted once while we

were working up the dosage on Coreg but after a while, the body adapts

to the beta blocker. My Cardiologist actually said that the beta

blocker would make me feel worse for a while. If I skip a couple of

doses and get back on the same dosage level, I'm a bit wobbly for a few

hours.

Regards,

~Lonestar Rose~ wrote:

> Hello all,

>

> I have generalized chronic muskoskeletal as well as joint pain (if my

> pain is a " 6 " on a scale from 1 - 10, I'm grateful, seriously...I

> cannot remember what it feels like not to hurt, only that there once

> was such a time in my life) from various chronic health conditions. I

> take a combination of Darvocet 100, Fioricet, and at night, Soma is

> added to the " cocktail " . This " cocktail " works for me, though I have

> noticed that I have now reached a point where I need to take it more

> often that I used to due to increased tolerance. I plan to discuss

> alternate pain control at my next appt. I ceased being concerned

> about becoming addicted long ago. I have to live and function on some

> level, and we make trade-offs, don't we? Unfortunately, I cannot

> tolerate hydracodone, coedine, vicadin, or some of the other more

> effective pain medications due to my IBS. & n! bsp;I know there are

> risks, as does my dr., but I have to be able to function to some

> degree without hurting so badly that I want to bite holes in the walls

> and/or cry all day and night from pain....and I DO have a high pain

> tolerance....in fact, I've gotten so used to hurting, it has

> periodically caused me to ignore serious infections/illness because I

> simply attributed my symptoms to the pain which I live with

> 24-7....until high fever or some new symptom (like high fever) sent me

> to the hospital, sometimes by ambulance. My cardiologist added

> Proatimine to my daily Rx regime today for my Neurocardiogenic

> Syncope. The beta blocker he first put me on only worsened my

> fainting and near-fainting spells and made me feel horrible all the

> time. I hope this new drug helps, and so does my dr.

> Love,

>

>

>

> ...

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jon Love your response

"No, 10 is when your arms or legs have been cut off." and I answered "That's never happened to me so it's not a valid reference point for me.".

I think Im gonna use that one next time!!! lol

Re: pain relief

Hello I've always wondered about that 1 to 10 pain scale that they use. At the hospital, they asked me to rate the pain on a scale of 1 to 10, I said "It's the most pain that I've ever had so I would rate it a 10.", the nurse said "No, 10 is when your arms or legs have been cut off." and I answered "That's never happened to me so it's not a valid reference point for me.".Which beta blocker was it that made you faint? I fainted once while we were working up the dosage on Coreg but after a while, the body adapts to the beta blocker. My Cardiologist actually said that the beta blocker would make me feel worse for a while. If I skip a couple of doses and get back on the same dosage level, I'm a bit wobbly for a few hours.Regards,~Lonestar Rose~ wrote:> Hello all,> > I have generalized chronic muskoskeletal as well as joint pain (if my > pain is a "6" on a scale from 1 - 10, I'm grateful, seriously...I > cannot remember what it feels like not to hurt, only that there once > was such a time in my life) from various chronic health conditions. I > take a combination of Darvocet 100, Fioricet, and at night, Soma is > added to the "cocktail". This "cocktail" works for me, though I have > noticed that I have now reached a point where I need to take it more > often that I used to due to increased tolerance. I plan to discuss > alternate pain control at my next appt. I ceased being concerned > about becoming addicted long ago. I have to live and function on some > level, and we make trade-offs, don't we? Unfortunately, I cannot > tolerate hydracodone, coedine, vicadin, or some of the other more > effective pain medications due to my IBS. & n! bsp;I know there are > risks, as does my dr., but I have to be able to function to some > degree without hurting so badly that I want to bite holes in the walls > and/or cry all day and night from pain....and I DO have a high pain > tolerance....in fact, I've gotten so used to hurting, it has > periodically caused me to ignore serious infections/illness because I > simply attributed my symptoms to the pain which I live with > 24-7....until high fever or some new symptom (like high fever) sent me > to the hospital, sometimes by ambulance. My cardiologist added > Proatimine to my daily Rx regime today for my Neurocardiogenic > Syncope. The beta blocker he first put me on only worsened my > fainting and near-fainting spells and made me feel horrible all the > time. I hope this new drug helps, and so does my dr.> Love,> > >> ...>>~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~ The Being Sick CommunityMessage Archives and Digest Attachment Pictures:-/messagesChat:- Scheduled Daily Chats at /chatBookmarks:-Add a website URL you have found useful./links Personal Complaints or problems:-Please contact a moderator email: -owner Subscription Details:-1) Individual email - means that every email sent to the list you receive.2) Daily Digest - sends you 25 messages in one single email for you to browse. This is an excellent option if you receive alot of email.3) Web only/No mail - means that you can pop into groups at your convenience and receive no email.To modify your subscription settings please visit:- /joinTo subscribe or unsubscribe please email:--subscribe -unsubscribe ~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~When nothing is sure, everything is possible.--- Margaret Drabble~~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~ *** ~~~~

[Guest guest]

Hey Russ,

Sharon, the group founder has that device{or one like it } placed in her back. She has mentioned it on several occasions {just not recently} Just wanted to let you know that it has been discussed here before. She has had some good results with it .

I think that this is the same device that Jerry has had in his back.

He has had remarkable pain relief from it.

Well,I don't really know that much about it.

TAKE AS BEST CARE AS YOU CAN AND BE SAFE

LARRY ,group moderatorSanford <mucols@...> wrote:

Friends...This is the final paragraph of a message I posted earlier in response to one from Janine. I thought it might be a good idea to post it separately.As for pain relief, I haven't seen here any reference to thoseelectrical devices that are implanted near a nerve and that, whenactivated by an external hand held control unit, block pain impulsesto the brain. Anyone suffering chronic, intractable pain - pain that meds simply can't reach - might do well to check into this option. It is available in the U.S. and, for those who "qualify," it can give amazing relief. On the negative side, there are reports that with use over time it may become less effective. Spine doctors should know about this unit, and they should be able to tell you whether or not you would be a candidate. If yours can't, find someone who

can.RussREMEMBER ALL OF OUR MEN AND

WOMEN IN THE ARMED SERVICE OF OUR NATION

PRAY THAT THEY MAY BE SAFE

AND SOUND IN BODY AND MIND

[Guest guest]

Larry...

Thanks for the update. There are so many new messages posted here

that it doesn't hurt to be reminded of older but still important

ones. Yes, that is the same device that Jerry has. I wouldn't

expect it to work equally well for everyone, but for some it could

mean nothing less than a new life. Russ

> Hey Russ,

> Sharon, the group founder has that device{or one like it } placed

in her back. She has mentioned it on several occasions {just not

recently} Just wanted to let you know that it has been discussed

here before. She has had some good results with it .

> I think that this is the same device that Jerry has had in

his back.

> He has had remarkable pain relief from it.

> Well,I don't really know that much about it.

> TAKE AS BEST CARE AS YOU CAN AND BE SAFE

> LARRY ,group moderator

[Guest guest]

How about lidoderm/lidocaine 5% patches? They kill the pain but not

the numbness. I've shared them with people who have sciatica and they

all loved them - except my mom who said it killed the pain but didn't

remove the related weakness. (I know we're not supposed to share

prescriptions with others, but these people were all in pain and my

doctor said there are no side effects.)

>

> I'm looking to try things I have not yet. I have no intention of

getting surgery yet, so I am

> searching for ways to feel better. So far, epidurals have not

worked. I am waiting for this

> facet denervation procedure to kick in and I had a Swedish massage

today that gave me relief

> for about 20 minutes. The massage therapist said something about

cranio-sacral massage?

> Anyone?

> Thanks, Jill

>

[Guest guest]

Spinal Cord Stimulator - (worked well for me for my other back pain not

associated with Flat back - but didn't change my flatback status or

give me relief and help me stand up and walk better)

massage - works great while you are having them (made me pain free) and

gets the blood flowing - but when I started walking again after I got

up from the table - I still had flatback and couldn't stand straight

and hurt like crazy!

I didn't want to be meds my whole life - I hate them - most of the pain

meds make me loopy and sleepy and I'm a mom and can't be like that all

the time.

sometimes the injections give you temporary relief.

Trying to stay active and getting in the pool - may help you also.

>

> I'm looking to try things I have not yet. I have no intention of

getting surgery yet, so I am

> searching for ways to feel better. So far, epidurals have not

worked. I am waiting for this

> facet denervation procedure to kick in and I had a Swedish massage

today that gave me relief

> for about 20 minutes. The massage therapist said something about

cranio-sacral massage?

> Anyone?

> Thanks, Jill

>

[Guest guest]

I have to say that I think the amount of pain you have is directly

related to the pain " relief " you are taking. I had a TKR September 22.

My leg was very bowed so quite a bit of bone needed to be cut during

the surgery. I also had a lot of osteoarthritis in the joint, and my

knee would go out of joint every time I stood up. My Surgeon told me I

waited too long for the surgery. This developed from an injury playing

soft ball over 40 years ago.

I was put on Oxycotin right after surgery, 10mg 2 times a day. At about

day 5, I gave up the night pill and continued with the 10mg in the

morning. About a week later I was put on percocet. 10 mg 2 times a day.

I guess I was on that for about 3 weeks...then I was put on Vicodin 1

or 2 every 4 hours...At first I took 2 in the AM and 2 in the

PM...After about 1 month I took only the 2 in the am. I continued to

take these until about the 3 month marker from my surgery. The pain

meds are needed for PT. Right now I take no medication. Seriously, I

have mostly had no pain. I still have some swelling and stiffness in

the knee and was told it lasts usually for 6 to 12 months.

I hope this is helpful for those of you who are suffering much pain

with their joint replacement surgeries. It sounds like some of you are

not taking much medication for pain....You may be helped by talking

with your OS...

Dorie Madsen

Re: New Member Intro

For the night time cramps in my leg, my physiotherapist said that I was

likely not drinking enough water during the day. Sure enough, when I

increased that, the pain went away!

As for no one talking about how much it will hurt, I had an interesting

situation recently. An acquaintance was due to have her first TKR at

the beginning of December and talked to me about it a week or so before

she was going in..wanting 'the truth' about rehab and recovery. So I

told her that it was the most painful thing I have ever had and with

the first TKR that I had, it was excruciating for the first 3 weeks or

more, gradually getting easier. The second was less painful. Then last

week I ran into her at physio at the hospital. She didnt say hello or

anything, just came up close and said " Why didn't you tell me how

painful this was going to be??? " ! I reminded her of our conversation

and she got this funny look on her face and admitted that she did

remember that comment now, but that she had obviously only heard the

parts she wanted to hear!

Chris

[Guest guest]

So. I have chronic degenerative arthritis in my knee, hip and spine. I was on

traditional doctor

authorized pain meds for 4 years and became allergic to everything over a year

ago.

I have been off all opiates for over a year and 2 months now. I am convinced now

the arthritis was caused from having candida most of my life.

So,while detoxifying myself, how do I cope with the pain? I just filled in all

the gaps I was missing yesterday with vitamin supplements.

Is there more of something I should be taking then others?

I also have a strange feeling in my right thigh above my worst knee that varies

from burning to feeling like a tightened muscle that will not relax. I have been

using soothanol,or theragesic to give some relief. Of course I am sure this is

not OK. This pain never really goes away but varies in degree. Have the toxins

settled in my leg?

If I stop using these topical treatments for pain how do I cope with the pain so

I am able to work , let alone sleep?

I have changed my diet radically but not to the extent you call for, but I am

now working toward this eliminating foods.

Will Coconut oil used as a topical cream help?

Thanks

M